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Yes 1844 is unbiblical, but why abandon the Sabbath also ?

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You missed the whole point of what I said.

And I am not going to waste my time giving you an explanation if you are going to have that kind of attitude towards me.

You said the sabbath was a sign to remind you that you where not god and He was. I replied that was sad if you need the sabbath for that. Sorry if you think I have a bad attitude. I also asked if I where undersanding you correctly, so maybe I am not, sorry. Can you kindly explain it to me please.

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Would Christ direct us not to love?

Christ is love!


No one keeps the ten commandments...do you agree?

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the unbiblical 1844 teachings and false visions of Mrs White
Assumes facts not in evidence.

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Is the law salvational?
That's not the function of the Law. One of its function is to explicitly point out your need of salvation. Then it points you to your saviour. So, without the Law, you know neither.
 
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RE: Is it even possible for anyone [except Jesus] to 'perfectly' keep the ten commandments?
So, God gave you a "mission impossible"? Does that even make sense?
If there were a law that man could obey 'perfectly', Christ need not have come.

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid:
for if there had been a law given which could have given life,
verily righteousness should have been by the law.
KJV

dj, you are correct, it doesn't 'make sense', not to the flesh....
however, God does what He considers important His way.
If everything 'made sense' we would not need 'faith'....right?

Peace....Restin
 
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That's why God gave the command in the 1st place AND told us to "Remember."
Don't read into the text what is not there. To do that is to break one of the commandments. God never told us to remember. That commandment was written to a few million Hebrews who had never kept a Sabbath in their lives and needed to be reminded of a new arrangement of time.
 
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Sentipente,

Would you talk some more about the "new arrangement of time?"

Thank you.

Joe
 
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The Hebrews had worked without rest during their captivity in Egypt. They were not only delivered from slavery but from then on would have the gift of one day out of every seven to rest, to remind them that they had been delivered. The Sabbath is a sign of deliverance.
 
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I am a little confused, are you arguing for the Sabbath or against it? Thanks.
 
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I am a little confused, are you arguing for the Sabbath or against it? Thanks.
For or against in what context? How can you be against what exists unless you have the ability or the authority to get rid of it?
 
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Let's take a look at the account of the command that you are referring to:

It's true that Deuteronomy makes mention of the fact that they were delivered from the Pharaoh. However, nowhere in the command does it say that the Sabbath was merely given to them as a sign to remember their deliverance.

It could be argued that it was worded this way to remind them that it wasn't just any god who delivered them; it was the Living God who created the heavens and the earth who delivered them from the mighty hand of the Pharaoh, which would make perfect sense because the observance of this command in particular significantly demarcates the difference between those who identify with and worship the God who created the heavens and the earth and those who worship gods that have been created by man.

Let's keep in mind here that man is not the Creator, but the creation of the Living God. So it is fitting that man should remember where he came from and who has the power and authority to deliver him from any force that owes its existence to God--even from the mighty hand of the Pharaoh who was identified as a 'god'.

In fact, the account of the commandment in Exodus takes it all the way back to the creation account. And I believe that it is for the purpose explained above that it does so. That is, to demarcate the difference between the Creator God and the so-called 'gods' that have been created by man. Thus keeping the Sabbath day holy is a sign to disclose that we have embraced the Living God who created the heavens and the earth, and is therefore, as Samuele Bacchiocchi put it, in other words, an act of 'remembering our roots'.
 
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