Pastor Bohr
Gerhard:
The voice that I hear in your book is the voice of the dragon. Satan certainly does hate the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus. Your book is evidence that Revelation 12:17 is being fulfilled right before our eyes. Jesus is coming soon. By the way, the e-mail that is attached to your message about not meeting in churches was not sent by me, it is a spoof sent by someone else.
Pastor Bohr
GE:
Dear Pastor Bohr,
I am grateful that you have answered me. I ask you in the Name of Jesus, to think about what you have answered me, and will have to answer for in the judgment to God. At least you will be able to tell the Lord, I answered that man. It will be to your credit. And in my eyes, it says something good about your character. Few people have the decency to even answer.
I have received another post that says I am blaspheming. Do you think one who believes Jesus Christ his Lord and Saviour will easily blaspheme or speak for the dragon who is satan? Are you naming me, this sinner of sinner but saved by the Lamb of God, satan? If you are a Christian, dear Pastor, I ask you NOT to apologise; I only ask you to consider the reason you are calling me a blaspheming devil. Even that is not so bad; what is bad, is that you actually are telling Jesus Christ He is not a Saviour, because He could not have saved me, if I were the 'voice of the dragon' and 'hater' of God's Commandment and Testimony of Jesus.
Then, allow and accept, in the Name of Christ our Lord, my protest to your telling me I do not believe the holiness, goodness, and perfection of the Law of God but in fact deny it and share hate for it with satan. Paul said what you accuse another of, you are yourself guilty of. But I won't judge you like Paul might have, because I trust your motive and sincerity and zeal for Jesus' sake. I only hope it will dawn to your conscience the seriousness of the matter I have addressed in my book.
Therefore I defend, and challenge you to show what I said, against the Law of God indeed the Testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 14:12! Now if you are going to answer me, I wrote against Mrs E.G. White and against what she wrote, I would not deem it an answer at all. For that is exactly what I wrote for: To show Mrs White or her writings are not what John called 'The Spirit of Prophecy', or to equate her with it. For the Word of God -- which is BOTH the Law of God AND the Spirit of Prophecy -- is from Christ, and is, Jesus Christ and the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
This is not so treated upon in my book; but this my book does come down to, because I SIMPLY test Mrs White and what she wrote, against the Written Word of God.
And there I do not hesitate to call on God as my witness, I not (knowingly) made a single statement that I not fully have substantiated with Scripture. If you find any one or more, it is your duty as a disciple of Jesus Christ to bring it under my attention, so that I may pray for forgiveness for having done so, and to men, may apologise, and try to make amends.
Until you have shown me - and do not use the excuse of a Cain - I stand with what I have written, and that it does in fact amount to an accusation against Mrs E.G. White and the Seventh Day Adventist Church, that they believe and teach The Great Lie that consists of nothing but lies. I show you multiple of those lies in my book. PROVE ME THE LIAR, In the Name of Christ, and to the welfare of your own, and my, souls, dear Pastor Bohr. And I pray the Lord's blessing to you in your effort.
I with neither this post nor with my book have written one vain word, Christ is my Judge.
Pastor Bohr
Gerhard:
It is not I that has indicted you for what you teach but rather the Word of God that you so zealously claim to follow. Your teachings clearly contradict the testimony of Revelation 12:17. By teaching that Sunday replaces the Sabbath and by your attacks against Ellen White, you are actually fulfilling this verse. I perceive that you are bitter against the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Many of the accusations you launch against Ellen White can be answered by the Word of God but if I took the time to answer them you would probably come up with more. There are far more important things to do than to answer the accusations of those who do not wish to follow the truth. You might perceive that what I am saying is harsh but I say it in Christian love, anxious for the salvation of your soul. There are sincere souls who are hungering and thirsting for the truth. For me to take hours and hours to answer your accusations against Ellen White would detract from reaching out to these sincere souls.
I am putting you on my prayer list that God may open your eyes and remove the bitterness from your heart!
Homesick for Heaven,
Pastor Bohr
GE:
Dear Pastor Bohr,
I do not in the least teach "... that Sunday replaces the Sabbath ...". I 'teach' "There remaineth therefore a keeping of the Sabbath Day (“Seventh Day” in 4:4) for the People of God". Where did you see I teach Sunday in the Sabbath's stead? It is a FALSE accusation without ANY provocation from what I have written.
But, refer 'The Passion of Love' ('The Desire of the Ages'), 'Remnant Publications', p 97 par. 2, where Mrs White is the one who of Sunday proclaims with great acclamation: "What a day is THIS to the world!", and on p 98, last par, "The day that was a day of rejoicing to all heaven". I do not read such things said of the First Day in all the Bible; I do find such things said of the Seventh Day Sabbath throughout all the Scriptures. Who is propagating Sunday-worship here? You call this, 'testimonies' from God to his Holy Sabbath Day?
Then wait until you grasp the PLAIN Bible truth the Lord rose from the dead, not, 'On the First Day of the week', but, "On the Sabbath in Day's fullness, mid-afternoon before the First Day of the week" --- and how will you still be so great adherent of Mrs White's contrary 'witness'?
You answer me "by the Word of God" where I "launch accusations against Ellen White"; Don't merely say it can be answered, especially since you "say it in Christian love, anxious for the salvation of (my) soul" --- Do it! This excuse, " There are sincere souls who are hungering and thirsting for the truth. For me to take hours and hours to answer your accusations against Ellen White would detract from reaching out to these sincere souls", just don't go up. It in fact is a veiled denial of my sincerity.
But I know in what condition you are, I was in it myself. Seventh Day Adventism has made a doctrine about it, namely, about our 'Laodicean state' of self satisfied lukewarm-ness. But the moment you are confronted with a real challenge to answer for your faith, you get struck dumb like lame. I have found it hundreds of times; in fact, times without exception. I have been PLEADING Seventh Day Adventists to confront me with Scripture and common sense. We have gone on camps together for the purpose, and they talked and talked all the beautiful African night's silence through never having said a word of things about the Scriptures. Such situations presented itself countless times. And the moment you dare hint in the direction of testing 'truth' by the Scriptures, you're brandished (or branded) heretical disturber of the peace.
Have you not now exactly like that responded to my invitation to a sober discussion of the right or wrong of what I have written against Mrs E.G. White? Or is yours just another show of Seventh Day Adventist hypocrisy?
Gerhard:
The voice that I hear in your book is the voice of the dragon. Satan certainly does hate the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus. Your book is evidence that Revelation 12:17 is being fulfilled right before our eyes. Jesus is coming soon. By the way, the e-mail that is attached to your message about not meeting in churches was not sent by me, it is a spoof sent by someone else.
Pastor Bohr
GE:
Dear Pastor Bohr,
I am grateful that you have answered me. I ask you in the Name of Jesus, to think about what you have answered me, and will have to answer for in the judgment to God. At least you will be able to tell the Lord, I answered that man. It will be to your credit. And in my eyes, it says something good about your character. Few people have the decency to even answer.
I have received another post that says I am blaspheming. Do you think one who believes Jesus Christ his Lord and Saviour will easily blaspheme or speak for the dragon who is satan? Are you naming me, this sinner of sinner but saved by the Lamb of God, satan? If you are a Christian, dear Pastor, I ask you NOT to apologise; I only ask you to consider the reason you are calling me a blaspheming devil. Even that is not so bad; what is bad, is that you actually are telling Jesus Christ He is not a Saviour, because He could not have saved me, if I were the 'voice of the dragon' and 'hater' of God's Commandment and Testimony of Jesus.
Then, allow and accept, in the Name of Christ our Lord, my protest to your telling me I do not believe the holiness, goodness, and perfection of the Law of God but in fact deny it and share hate for it with satan. Paul said what you accuse another of, you are yourself guilty of. But I won't judge you like Paul might have, because I trust your motive and sincerity and zeal for Jesus' sake. I only hope it will dawn to your conscience the seriousness of the matter I have addressed in my book.
Therefore I defend, and challenge you to show what I said, against the Law of God indeed the Testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 14:12! Now if you are going to answer me, I wrote against Mrs E.G. White and against what she wrote, I would not deem it an answer at all. For that is exactly what I wrote for: To show Mrs White or her writings are not what John called 'The Spirit of Prophecy', or to equate her with it. For the Word of God -- which is BOTH the Law of God AND the Spirit of Prophecy -- is from Christ, and is, Jesus Christ and the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
This is not so treated upon in my book; but this my book does come down to, because I SIMPLY test Mrs White and what she wrote, against the Written Word of God.
And there I do not hesitate to call on God as my witness, I not (knowingly) made a single statement that I not fully have substantiated with Scripture. If you find any one or more, it is your duty as a disciple of Jesus Christ to bring it under my attention, so that I may pray for forgiveness for having done so, and to men, may apologise, and try to make amends.
Until you have shown me - and do not use the excuse of a Cain - I stand with what I have written, and that it does in fact amount to an accusation against Mrs E.G. White and the Seventh Day Adventist Church, that they believe and teach The Great Lie that consists of nothing but lies. I show you multiple of those lies in my book. PROVE ME THE LIAR, In the Name of Christ, and to the welfare of your own, and my, souls, dear Pastor Bohr. And I pray the Lord's blessing to you in your effort.
I with neither this post nor with my book have written one vain word, Christ is my Judge.
Pastor Bohr
Gerhard:
It is not I that has indicted you for what you teach but rather the Word of God that you so zealously claim to follow. Your teachings clearly contradict the testimony of Revelation 12:17. By teaching that Sunday replaces the Sabbath and by your attacks against Ellen White, you are actually fulfilling this verse. I perceive that you are bitter against the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Many of the accusations you launch against Ellen White can be answered by the Word of God but if I took the time to answer them you would probably come up with more. There are far more important things to do than to answer the accusations of those who do not wish to follow the truth. You might perceive that what I am saying is harsh but I say it in Christian love, anxious for the salvation of your soul. There are sincere souls who are hungering and thirsting for the truth. For me to take hours and hours to answer your accusations against Ellen White would detract from reaching out to these sincere souls.
I am putting you on my prayer list that God may open your eyes and remove the bitterness from your heart!
Homesick for Heaven,
Pastor Bohr
GE:
Dear Pastor Bohr,
I do not in the least teach "... that Sunday replaces the Sabbath ...". I 'teach' "There remaineth therefore a keeping of the Sabbath Day (“Seventh Day” in 4:4) for the People of God". Where did you see I teach Sunday in the Sabbath's stead? It is a FALSE accusation without ANY provocation from what I have written.
But, refer 'The Passion of Love' ('The Desire of the Ages'), 'Remnant Publications', p 97 par. 2, where Mrs White is the one who of Sunday proclaims with great acclamation: "What a day is THIS to the world!", and on p 98, last par, "The day that was a day of rejoicing to all heaven". I do not read such things said of the First Day in all the Bible; I do find such things said of the Seventh Day Sabbath throughout all the Scriptures. Who is propagating Sunday-worship here? You call this, 'testimonies' from God to his Holy Sabbath Day?
Then wait until you grasp the PLAIN Bible truth the Lord rose from the dead, not, 'On the First Day of the week', but, "On the Sabbath in Day's fullness, mid-afternoon before the First Day of the week" --- and how will you still be so great adherent of Mrs White's contrary 'witness'?
You answer me "by the Word of God" where I "launch accusations against Ellen White"; Don't merely say it can be answered, especially since you "say it in Christian love, anxious for the salvation of (my) soul" --- Do it! This excuse, " There are sincere souls who are hungering and thirsting for the truth. For me to take hours and hours to answer your accusations against Ellen White would detract from reaching out to these sincere souls", just don't go up. It in fact is a veiled denial of my sincerity.
But I know in what condition you are, I was in it myself. Seventh Day Adventism has made a doctrine about it, namely, about our 'Laodicean state' of self satisfied lukewarm-ness. But the moment you are confronted with a real challenge to answer for your faith, you get struck dumb like lame. I have found it hundreds of times; in fact, times without exception. I have been PLEADING Seventh Day Adventists to confront me with Scripture and common sense. We have gone on camps together for the purpose, and they talked and talked all the beautiful African night's silence through never having said a word of things about the Scriptures. Such situations presented itself countless times. And the moment you dare hint in the direction of testing 'truth' by the Scriptures, you're brandished (or branded) heretical disturber of the peace.
Have you not now exactly like that responded to my invitation to a sober discussion of the right or wrong of what I have written against Mrs E.G. White? Or is yours just another show of Seventh Day Adventist hypocrisy?