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And there it is... the underlying message you were portraying all along.

My suggestion for you: maybe look in a mirror?
^_^ The only one needing to look in the mirror is yourself
 
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Why on earth are you laughing? It is true! I am not arguing a point, I am providing you with information.
I know, I'm sorry...I'm not insulting your intelligence. I just know some people love arguing about this stuff in online forums.

Not to mention the people who love to play the attack/defence game, it's like a game of cat and mouse to them. Not my thing I'm afraid.

I am over my pursuit now, I don't need to worry, neither should you. Peace (and thank you for trying to help)
 
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:oldthumbsup: I get ya, decades blend together for me too. ;)
I worked for DOD and went to Korea twice '89 and '98 or '99. First online was shortly after arriving second time.
 
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Although I do believe in his name, God is too mighty and powerful to not be able to save those who call on the name of Jesus. Satan is already defeated! God saves all whose hearts truly seek HIM :amen:



More videos by people who do not know Hebrew...SMH...sigh
 
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YHUH what does it translate to?

Assuming that you mean YHWH/YHVH, it most likely comes from what God said to Moses "I AM that I AM", which in Hebrew is ehyeh asher ehyeh. The linguistic etymology isn't known for certain, but the best scholarly guesses are that YHWH is a reconstruction from "I AM" (ehyeh) to mean "He is" or "Causes to be" from either the Hebrew tri-consonantal roots heh-yod-heh or heh-vav-heh. Thus by this name, YHWH, it is meant that God is the One Who Is, the One Who Exists, the One Who Causes To Be. But it's still an ongoing debate among academics.

"YHUH" isn't Hebrew. There aren't any written vowels in Hebrew outside of the vowel-markers (Niqqud) added by the Masoretes in the middle ages to aid in pronunciation, in which case some Hebrew characters (all consonants) can be treated as vowel-like. E.g. Vav with a holam (dot above the letter) indicates it makes an /o/ vowel sound.

We don't know how YHWH is pronounced, the pronunciation has been lost to history.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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From ancient, paleo Hebrew it breaks down as this.

Yod - means hand
Heh - means behold
Vav - means nail
Heh - means behold

So 'behold the hand (right hand of God) Behold the nail (in the hand) '

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Does any one have any insight on this?

Is Jesus' Hebrew name (Yeshua) pronounced:
ye-shew-a or ya-hoo-a?
(I know what the latter looks like, bare with me).

What does the second pronunciation mean, if it's not the most used?

If any one can give me something besides a copy-and-paste answer, maybe personal revelation? that would be nice..
I've read a Hebrew manuscript with vowel points, which clearly stated that it is pronounced "ye-shew-a".
 
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the One Who Exists
This seems likely...
We don't know how YHWH is pronounced, the pronunciation has been lost to history.
Exactly, thank you for being the only one to admit it!

"The ancient Hebrew language that the Old Testament was written in did not have vowels in its alphabet. In written form, ancient Hebrew was a consonant-only language. In the original Hebrew, God’s name transliterates to YHWH (sometimes written in the older style as YHVH). This is known as the tetragrammaton (meaning “four letters”). Because of the lack of vowels, Bible scholars debate how the tetragrammaton YHWH was pronounced."

"Eventually, the vowels from Adonai (“Lord”) or Elohim (“God”) found their way in between the consonants of YHWH, thus forming YaHWeH. But this interpolation of vowels does not mean that was how God’s name was originally pronounced. In fact, we aren’t entirely sure if YHWH should have two syllables or three."

From: What is YHWH?
 
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We don't know how YHWH is pronounced, the pronunciation has been lost to history.
I believe I know now, I'm no longer worried what other people think, over in my thread I discussed my audible experience 10 years ago in post #25 and post #71 where he said a word. Ya-who-ah is what the word was...very drawn out. Unlike others who believe you can only use his true name, despite this, he still saved me and many others just using the name Jesus. Nothing will stop God saving people, no matter the deception of the enemy over the centuries! :amen:
 
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This seems likely...

Exactly, thank you for being the only one to admit it!

"The ancient Hebrew language that the Old Testament was written in did not have vowels in its alphabet. In written form, ancient Hebrew was a consonant-only language. In the original Hebrew, God’s name transliterates to YHWH (sometimes written in the older style as YHVH). This is known as the tetragrammaton (meaning “four letters”). Because of the lack of vowels, Bible scholars debate how the tetragrammaton YHWH was pronounced."

"Eventually, the vowels from Adonai (“Lord”) or Elohim (“God”) found their way in between the consonants of YHWH, thus forming YaHWeH. But this interpolation of vowels does not mean that was how God’s name was originally pronounced. In fact, we aren’t entirely sure if YHWH should have two syllables or three."

From: What is YHWH?
But for this from the 1907 Jewish Publication Society. I had to replace some of the Hebrew images with English letters program has an image limit of 10.
YHWH.
Of the names of God in the Old Testament, that which occurs most frequently (6,823 times) is the so-called Tetragrammaton, Yhwh (
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), the distinctive personal name of the God of Israel. This name is commonly represented in modern translations by the form "Jehovah," which, however, is a philological impossibility (see Jehovah). This form has arisen through attempting to pronounce the consonants of the name with the vowels of Adonai (
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= "Lord"), which the Masorites have inserted in the text, indicating thereby that Adonai was to be read (as a "ḳeri perpetuum") instead of Yhwh. When the name Adonai itself precedes, to avoid repetition of this name, Yhwh is written by the Masorites with the vowels of Elohim, in which case Elohim is read instead of Yhwh. In consequence of this Masoretic reading the authorized and revised English versions (though not the American edition of the revised version) render Yhwh by the word "Lord" in the great majority of cases.
This name, according to the narrative in Ex. iii. (E), was made known to Moses in a vision at Horeb. In another, parallel narrative (Ex. vi. 2, 3, P) it is stated that the name was not known to the Patriarchs. It is used by one of the documentary sources of Genesis (J), but scarcely if at all by the others. Its use is avoided by some later writers also. It does not occur in Ecclesiastes, and in Daniel is found only in ch. ix. The writer of Chronicles shows a preference for the form Elohim, and in Ps. xlii.-lxxxiii. Elohim occurs much more frequently than Yhwh, probably having been substituted in some places for the latter name, as in Ps. liii. (comp. Ps. xiv.).
In appearance, Yhwh (
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) is the third person singular imperfect "ḳal" of the verb
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("to be"), meaning, therefore, "He is," or "He will be," or, perhaps, "He lives," the root idea of the word being,probably, "to blow," "to breathe," and hence, "to live." With this explanation agrees the meaning of the name given in Ex. iii. 14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person—"I am" (
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, from
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, the later equivalent of the archaic stem [HWH]). The meaning would, therefore, be "He who is self-existing, self-sufficient," or, more concretely, "He who lives," the abstract conception of pure existence being foreign to Hebrew thought. There is no doubt that the idea of life was intimately connected with the name Yhwh from early times. He is the living God, as contrasted with the lifeless gods of the heathen, and He is the source and author of life (comp. I Kings xviii.; Isa. xli. 26-29, xliv. 6-20; Jer. x. 10, 14; Gen. ii. 7; etc.). So familiar is this conception of God to the Hebrew mind that it appears in the common formula of an oath, "ḥai Yhwh" (= "as Yhwh lives"; Ruth iii. 13; I Sam. xiv. 45; etc.).
If the explanation of the form above given be the true one, the original pronunciation must have been Yahweh (YHWH) or Yahaweh (YHWH). From this the contracted form Jah or Yah (
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) is most readily explained, and also the forms Jeho or Yeho (YH = YHW), and Jo or Yo (, contracted from YHW), which the word assumes in combination in the first part of compound proper names, and Yahu or Yah (YHW) in the second part of such names. The fact may also be mentioned that in Samaritan poetry [YHWH] rimes with words similar in ending to Yahweh, and Theodoret ("Quæst. 15 in Exodum") states that the Samaritans pronounced the name 'Iαβέ. Epiphanius ascribes the same pronunciation to an early Christian sect. Clement of Alexandria, still more exactly, pronounces 'Iαουέ or 'Iαουαί, and Origen, 'Iα. Aquila wrote the name in archaic Hebrew letters. In the Jewish-Egyptian magic-papyri it appears as Ιαωουηε. At least as early as the third century B.C. the name seems to have been regarded by the Jews as a "nomen ineffabile," on the basis of a somewhat extreme interpretation of Ex. xx. 7 and Lev. xxiv. 11 (see Philo, "De Vita Mosis," iii. 519, 529). Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them. The Septuagint, and after it the New Testament, invariably render δκύριος ("the Lord").
 
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Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them.

Its use is avoided by some later writers also.

or, more concretely, "He who lives,"

There is no doubt that the idea of life was intimately connected with the name Yhwh from early times. He is the living God, as contrasted with the lifeless gods of the heathen, and He is the source and author of life
Agree with all of the above. The enemy has tried to deceive us but it won't be for very much longer. God is ALMIGHTY and beside him there is no other. :clap:
 
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If the explanation of the form above given be the true one, the original pronunciation must have been Yahweh (YHWH) or Yahaweh (YHWH). From this the contracted form Jah or Yah (
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) is most readily explained, and also the forms Jeho or Yeho (YH = YHW), and Jo or Yo (, contracted from YHW), which the word assumes in combination in the first part of compound proper names, and Yahu or Yah (YHW) in the second part of such names. The fact may also be mentioned that in Samaritan poetry [YHWH] rimes with words similar in ending to Yahweh, and Theodoret ("Quæst. 15 in Exodum") states that the Samaritans pronounced the name 'Iαβέ. Epiphanius ascribes the same pronunciation to an early Christian sect. Clement of Alexandria, still more exactly, pronounces 'Iαουέ or 'Iαουαί, and Origen, 'Iα. Aquila wrote the name in archaic Hebrew letters. In the Jewish-Egyptian magic-papyri it appears as Ιαωουηε. At least as early as the third century B.C. the name seems to have been regarded by the Jews as a "nomen ineffabile," on the basis of a somewhat extreme interpretation of Ex. xx. 7 and Lev. xxiv. 11 (see Philo, "De Vita Mosis," iii. 519, 529). Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them. The Septuagint, and after it the New Testament, invariably render δκύριος ("the Lord").
Again, this has MAJOR problems with multiple contradictions... you should look up the Samaritan history of the use of Iabe and Jove/Yove...Yoveh..there was a reason Yeshua said "You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews"

We therefore beseech thee, our benefactor and saviour, to give order to Apolonius, the governor of this part of the country, and to Nicanor, the procurator of thy affairs, to give us no disturbances, nor to lay to our charge what the Jews are accused for, since we are aliens from their nation and from their customs, but let our temple which at present hath no name at all, be named the Temple of Jupiter Hellenius.
— Josephus

Shortly afterwards, the Greek king sent Gerontes the Athenian to force the Jews of Israel to violate their ancestral customs and live no longer by the laws of God; and to profane the Temple in Jerusalem and dedicate it to Olympian Zeus, and the one on Mt Gerizim to Zeus, Patron of Strangers, as the inhabitants of the latter place had requested.
— II Maccabees 6:1–2
Being Hanukkah, this is a perfect time to bring this up ;-)
 
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Again, this has MAJOR problems with multiple contradictions... you should look up the Samaritan history of the use of Iabe and Jove/Yove...Yoveh..there was a reason Yeshua said "You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews"




Being Hanukkah, this is a perfect time to bring this up ;-)


This is the truth:

"The name of God, as revealed in the Hebrew Scriptures, is YHWH (the closest English equivalents to the Hebrew letters). Ancient Hebrew did not have vowels, so the exact pronunciation of YHWH is uncertain. The vast majority of Hebrew and Christian scholars believe the name to be Yahweh, pronounced /ˈyä-wā/, with Yehowah, pronounced /yi-ˈhō-və/, being the second most popular possibility."

And this is also the truth:

"There are movements that strongly emphasize using God’s name (and, of course, only the name of God that they believe to be correct). However, there are no biblical prohibitions against using God’s name, nor are there commands that we must do so. Anyone who says that God must be addressed only by His name, YHWH, is speaking without biblical warrant."

From: What is the name of God?
 
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I believe I know now, I'm no longer worried what other people think, over in my thread I discussed my audible experience 10 years ago in post #25 and post #71 where he said a word. Ya-who-ah is what the word was...very drawn out. Unlike others who believe you can only use his true name, despite this, he still saved me and many others just using the name Jesus. Nothing will stop God saving people, no matter the deception of the enemy over the centuries! :amen:

I simply don't believe one should take advice from dreams or other such experiences. I think that's very dangerous. So I can not in good conscience encourage you to go with that.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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