Wow entire church converting!

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I read a book once by Dorothy Sayers who was writing of Church trends in the 1940's. The gist was that many Churches had been existing as arms of the state for hundreds of years. That arrangement worked well for both while the goals and values of both were similar. Between WWI and WWII, the states in Europe, for many reasons, found they no longer needed the Church to advance their aims. So, they discarded it as an encumbrance. Those Churches that had existed for hundreds of years in a particular state relationship suddenly found themselves in a new situation. Many failed to adapt or chose failing strategies. We are still seeing the results of this today.
Yep. You can see it in the hospitals which used to be church sponsored until abortion came with state financing.
 
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We've had a fair number of Episcopalians become Orthodox, seeking a more solid, unwaivering foundation. It's encouraging that people are open to this, when they see their ship is sinking.

Basil
I tire quickly of solid unwaivering foundations.
I'm happy with spry legs & nimble feet.;)
 
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We've had a fair number of Episcopalians become Orthodox, seeking a more solid, unwaivering foundation. It's encouraging that people are open to this, when they see their ship is sinking.

Basil
And I know some people moving the other way.

Does anybody really think that crowing over the people moving into one's traditions and quitely ignoring those moving the other way demonstrates or builds up anything?
 
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And I know some people moving the other way.

Does anybody really think that crowing over the people moving into one's traditions and quitely ignoring those moving the other way demonstrates or builds up anything?
I think I feel some gas building up....:sorry:
Somebody open a window.
 
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We've had a fair number of Episcopalians become Orthodox, seeking a more solid, unwaivering foundation. It's encouraging that people are open to this, when they see their ship is sinking.

Basil
I watch the posts with my jaw dropped that ya'll are gloating over how
many Christians you can sway to come to "your" Christian church.
It's... mind boggling.
UNLESS you believe that they were hell-bound if they hadn't converted.
Then i could surely give my "atta boy" too.

They robbed Paul to pay Peter. ;)
ROFL...
Right
 
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I watch the posts with my jaw dropped that ya'll are gloating over how
many Christians you can sway to come to "your" Christian church.
It's... mind boggling.
UNLESS you believe that they were hell-bound if they hadn't converted.
Then i could surely give my "atta boy" too.

Why wouldn't one be happy to see their fellow man embrace the fullness of truth?
 
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I watch the posts with my jaw dropped that ya'll are gloating over how
many Christians you can sway to come to "your" Christian church.
It's... mind boggling.
UNLESS you believe that they were hell-bound if they hadn't converted.
Then i could surely give my "atta boy" too.
Though there may have been an element of gloating in the OP (I posted my original response to put the OP's "WOW" in perspective) I don't think you can disagree that it could be spiritually harmful to remain in communion with a body of Christians who place as overseers people whose moral compass seems completely contra to the Christian ideals. I'm always glad when people move from Churches that are a bit "out there" or liberal in their theology, to Churches which are better grounded. Better that than to leave the Church altogether don't you think?
 
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Because one is saddened their fellow man has walked away from it, I guess.

And wanting more than the truth isn't recommended.
But I have to admit,... the feeling of fullness is a strong selling point to the starved.


Strange how they're walking away from it then.
 
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Though there may have been an element of gloating in the OP (I posted my original response to put the OP's "WOW" in perspective) I don't think you can disagree that it could be spiritually harmful to remain in communion with a body of Christians who place as overseers people whose moral compass seems completely contra to the Christian ideals. I'm always glad when people move from Churches that are a bit "out there" or liberal in their theology, to Churches which are better grounded. Better that than to leave the Church altogether don't you think?
OH :idea:
Oops.
Didnt know that.
Thanks for the heads up.
 
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It's really not about the numbers, it's what it symbolizes....and a small trickle is fine with us.

I dug up this story I remember from last year, and it's from the same area.

In a move that religious scholars say is unprecedented, 10 of the 12 nuns at an Episcopal convent in Catonsville left their church Thursday to become Roman Catholics, the latest defectors from a denomination divided over the ordination of gay men and women.
The members of the All Saints Sisters of the Poor were welcomed into the Catholic Church by Archbishop Edwin F. O'Brien, who confirmed the women during a Mass in their chapel. Each vowed to continue the tradition of consecrated life, now as a religious institute within the Archdiocese of Baltimore.
"We know our beliefs and where we are," said Mother Christina Christie, superior of the order that came to Baltimore in 1872. "We were drifting farther apart from the more liberal road the Episcopal Church is traveling. We are now more at home in the Roman Catholic Church." Also joining the church was the Rev. Warren Tanghe, the sisters' chaplain

Episcopal Nuns - 10 Of 12 Episcopal Nuns Exit - Baltimore Sun
 
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