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Would You Support A Christian Theocracy?

WOULD YOU SUPPORT A CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY?

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qpmomma

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Packy said:
True that was the intent of the founders However people have lived their lives in the PC ( political correctness) bubble and in this time, secularism ( the thing that has been killing Europe ) Humanism ( putting man in the middle instead of god ) and Atheism has stripped the judeo-Christian value system that America was based on...
Look at Society...You can sing A song about Kwanza...a song about other Holidays but the minute you want to sing a religious CHRISTmas song the ACLU and other's bash their seperationist ideals down societies throat.
The minute a christian speaks up and aginst something they are called Bigots or right wingers... or zealots...
But let me ask this..was Jesus P.C?
Now think of this...If Jesus were to come back today...
he would be called a right wing nutjob by the media..there is something terribly wrong with this picture...
We need ACTIVE christians not sunday morning christians to get involved.

Very good point. Jesus was anything but PC. He called it like He saw it. He didn't fluff the truth. He said "look, this is wrong and you need to fix it." Paul was the same way. If you read his letters, expecially Galatians one, he gets to the point of yelling. Why sin doesn't upset more Christians today is a mystery to me. Christ and Paul weren't PC, why are so many Christians today PC?? We are so afraid of offending everyone else. We don't want to offend the world that Christ said isn't even our home. And yet we let them take away prayer in schools, and they don't let us pray to God in public, and they took the 10 commandments off the walls!

You can please some of the people most of the time, most of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.

Christina
 
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Jesusong said:
A Christian theocracy will not work if Jesus hasn't returned yet. The Catholic Church ran a theocracy during the middle ages (aka the dark ages) and look at what happened there!

That wasnt a true Theocracy...Lets not forget that during that time period common people did not have acess to the actual scripture
private home bibles did not exist at that point.
People went off what they were told.
 
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qpmomma said:
Very good point. Jesus was anything but PC. He called it like He saw it. He didn't fluff the truth. He said "look, this is wrong and you need to fix it." Paul was the same way. If you read his letters, expecially Galatians one, he gets to the point of yelling. Why sin doesn't upset more Christians today is a mystery to me. Christ and Paul weren't PC, why are so many Christians today PC?? We are so afraid of offending everyone else. We don't want to offend the world that Christ said isn't even our home. And yet we let them take away prayer in schools, and they don't let us pray to God in public, and they took the 10 commandments off the walls!

You can please some of the people most of the time, most of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.

Christina
Read some of the doctrine in some of the mainline denominations. One in particular comes to mind that you can be abything and it is fine, believe what you want and there is room for you. Is it any wonder that people are confused about Christianity and even Christians on how to live according to what the Gospels teach
 
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qpmomma said:
Very good point. Jesus was anything but PC. He called it like He saw it. He didn't fluff the truth. He said "look, this is wrong and you need to fix it." Paul was the same way. If you read his letters, expecially Galatians one, he gets to the point of yelling. Why sin doesn't upset more Christians today is a mystery to me. Christ and Paul weren't PC, why are so many Christians today PC?? We are so afraid of offending everyone else. We don't want to offend the world that Christ said isn't even our home. And yet we let them take away prayer in schools, and they don't let us pray to God in public, and they took the 10 commandments off the walls!

You can please some of the people most of the time, most of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.

Christina


Excellent post.....:thumbsup:
Like I said...It takes active CHRISTians not sunday morning christians to put Christ back in our lives.
 
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Evee said:
Hi Packy another good thought and intent on your part :) However I believe we can do it right now no one involved except Jesus and you, Jesus and me.
We all do this and the nonbelievers would take notice.
Unfortunately we can't force non believers to live by what we believe.
When Jesus gets here:clap: ...I am restless just as you seem to be..
Hurry Dear Jesus!


We cant force people? really!! yet people can have secularism and humanism and the removal of christ from society forced upon them????
If it's the will of God being done through the saviours followers then is it really forcing anyone or is it by the garce of our father?

We can pray for the coming of the christ or we can GET UP and SHAKE the dust off our feet and prepare the table for him.

Are you happy with the path this Nation this world is taking?
I Am not!!!!

If we build our nations and our hearts upon christ then we can do no better.
Lets not forget that with Christ ALL THINGS ARE MADE NEW...
We cant just proclaim Christ in the pews...we need to proclaim him in the polling places as well!!!!

Peace and Blessings,
Packy
 
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Packy said:
We cant force people? really!! yet people can have secularism and humanism and the removal of christ from society forced upon them????
If it's the will of God being done through the saviours followers then is it really forcing anyone or is it by the garce of our father?

We can pray for the coming of the christ or we can GET UP and SHAKE the dust off our feet and prepare the table for him.

Are you happy with the path this Nation this world is taking?
I Am not!!!!

If we build our nations and our hearts upon christ then we can do no better.
Lets not forget that with Christ ALL THINGS ARE MADE NEW...
We cant just proclaim Christ in the pews...we need to proclaim him in the polling places as well!!!!

Peace and Blessings,
Packy
I believe as Christians we are obligated to stand up for what we believe even to the point of disobeying if it is against Gods Word but I also know the Bible is true and it tells me that things will get worse and worse and the more I see the more excited I get and the more expectant because as it gets worse I know Jesus cannot be long in coming. Peace and blessings, Bill
 
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Evee said:
Unfortunately we can't force non believers to live by what we believe.

I disagree with that. We can't force them to accept Christ. But we can place Biblical laws to help our nation. Granted we cannot force someone to worship God, and impose those laws on the people. I don't want the world to forbid me not to worship God, so I can't force them to worship. But don't you think our nation would be far better with moral laws? Take abortion for example. How many lives would be saved if we placed a law making it illegal to have an abortion? Or how many children and marriages would be saved to have laws making adultry illegal? I know I am going to ruffle feathers here, but our nation needs help. God set Biblical moral laws for Isreal for a reason. He knows it's unhealthy to sleep around, He knows the devistation adultry causes. If you look at history, great nations like ancient Greece and Rome fell b/c of the decomposing of moral fiber. If you look you can see that these nations fell right after the apperance of a homosexual sub culture. Christ Himself opposed this.

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qpmomma said:
I disagree with that. We can't force them to accept Christ. But we can place Biblical laws to help our nation. Granted we cannot force someone to worship God, and impose those laws on the people. I don't want the world to forbid me not to worship God, so I can't force them to worship. But don't you think our nation would be far better with moral laws? Take abortion for example. How many lives would be saved if we placed a law making it illegal to have an abortion? Or how many children and marriages would be saved to have laws making adultry illegal? I know I am going to ruffle feathers here, but our nation needs help. God set Biblical moral laws for Isreal for a reason. He knows it's unhealthy to sleep around, He knows the devistation adultry causes. If you look at history, great nations like ancient Greece and Rome fell b/c of the decomposing of moral fiber. If you look you can see that these nations fell right after the apperance of a homosexual sub culture. Christ Himself opposed this.

Christina

You are absolutely right. Our nation as well as yours needs this sort of thing. Remember we have just seen Elton John "wed" his partner in the last week in London.

You cannot exalt this sort of thing as a nation and still expect a national prosperity. Sowing and reaping laws do not allow it.

Cheers,
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Zzub said:
You are absolutely right. Our nation as well as yours needs this sort of thing. Remember we have just seen Elton John "wed" his partner in the last week in London.

You cannot exalt this sort of thing as a nation and still expect a national prosperity. Sowing and reaping laws do not allow it.

Cheers,
|ZZ|

Very true...
Why is it that the PC police tell us that we need to be accepting and tolerant of others even if they go against the laws that God established...Yet I cant have a copy of the ten commadments in the courthouse, why is it acceptable to be almost anything in this day and age except a christian?
my child may be read a book called my two moms in school yet they cant sing O Holy night........SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET!!!!!
 
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Look at it this way.

If you are standing on Venus where it is 900 degrees F.... and someone asked you if you would rather be in Texas... what would you say?

Sure, Texas is a grim place to live. But it is sure better than Venus.

I think a Christian Republic (that means it is run by rules, not by personalities) would work better than any current secular system.
 
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qpmomma said:
I disagree with that. We can't force them to accept Christ. But we can place Biblical laws to help our nation. Granted we cannot force someone to worship God, and impose those laws on the people. I don't want the world to forbid me not to worship God, so I can't force them to worship. But don't you think our nation would be far better with moral laws? Take abortion for example. How many lives would be saved if we placed a law making it illegal to have an abortion? Or how many children and marriages would be saved to have laws making adultry illegal? I know I am going to ruffle feathers here, but our nation needs help. God set Biblical moral laws for Isreal for a reason. He knows it's unhealthy to sleep around, He knows the devistation adultry causes. If you look at history, great nations like ancient Greece and Rome fell b/c of the decomposing of moral fiber. If you look you can see that these nations fell right after the apperance of a homosexual sub culture. Christ Himself opposed this.

Christina
yes a good post full of good ideas, However our country seems to have went to far in the opposite direction to turn back now without the help Of God himself.
We started out with morals and it evolved into this.
We can make adultery illegal...*Which I believe it is* till the cows come home but people will still commit adultery.
I believe in the things you believe in but we can't do it.
Only Jesus can make a non corrupt government.
 
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Zzub said:
I agree, LRB.

Christian republic, led by people who are elected to office, run by Christian rules and laws.

Not the church in political power.

Cheers,
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How could this be brought about?
Also we all know people change as they go along.
I would be for it if it was possible but I don't believe it can be done at this late stage.
The whole government system would have to be overthrown.
 
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No it wouldn't.

That is why you have a republic. To elect godly men and for them to set into place godly laws.

Have a look at http://www.wallbuilders.com/ for some excellent insights regarding America.

Cheers,
|ZZ|
 
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Evee said:
How could this be brought about?
Also we all know people change as they go along.
I would be for it if it was possible but I don't believe it can be done at this late stage.
The whole government system would have to be overthrown.

I think all they would really have to do is to begin to read the constitution the way it was written.
 
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LittleRocketBoy said:
I think all they would really have to do is to begin to read the constitution the way it was written.
Read it then practice it. Yes.
We would have to get rid of all the new laws that seem to play havoc on the old laws.
Not an easy Task.
 
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