Would you date...

[Im_A]

May I remind the thread that medicinal use of marijuana is not the same as recreational use of marijuana, especially in relation to the OP. Kind of thought that was obvious.

 

[MacFall]

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who think that medical marijuana users are just using it to get high and using their illnesses as an excuse.

 

[traingosorry]

I'd rather not. I've been in relationships with people who are consumed with either alcohol or marijuana and I'm so over it. Even though they still insist it doesn't affect them, it clearly had control over them.

So, no thanks.

 

[Im_A]

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who think that medical marijuana users are just using it to get high and using their illnesses as an excuse.

Sad but true.

Yet I am sure they can handle the prescription of Vicodin for teeth ache, Percocet for teeth being pulled(one experience I don't want to go back down because I have taken only one pill of that and after the pain killing affect leaves you and you can feel the narcotic side of the drug kicking in, as much as I didn't like the affects of marijuana in recreational manner when I did it, I will take those affects over the afters of Percocet) but god forbid someone taking a medicinal usage of marijuana for let's say MS and actually quite a few list of things that research has shown that medicinal use actually helps.

 

[SweetDee]

Blind post:


Used drugs in the past but not anymore: yes

still has a drug abuse problem: no

smoker: I am not sure I could handle being with someone who was a chain smoker. It would be an adjustment but not necessarily a deal breaker. I would prefer an occasional smoker, or even a cigar once in awhile.

Alcoholic: No

Social drinker: Yes

 

[Im_A]

I doubt that.

I just saw an article in my local newspaper that said the Feds rejected legalizing marijuana (even for medical use) because apparently they "find no medical benefits" and "the potential for abuse is too high" and "There are no proposed guidelines for taking it for medicinal purposes".

There is clearly political motivation for the Fed to want to keep weed use criminalized because those reasons are based in nothing but the same crap propaganda they've been using for years, with absolutely no logic or scientific studies for support.

One can't expect the federal government to really do anything different but portray the opinion of most state laws. Not saying I agree with the federal government banning medicinal use(or trying to because as we know there are states that allow it), the federal government simply cannot be unbiased as research. Federal government is voted in by people, who are biased, research results are just that...results without a bias.

 

[Im_A]

To better answer the OP, I simply want a woman that does pretty much the same things that I do and on the same level.

1. I am a coffee addict. I actually feel caffeine withdrawal typically every Saturday morning because of the work week with my 3-4 cups a day.
2. I drink socially/regularly. I haven't been drunk in quite awhile to say the least and to tell you the truth, my drinking has gone down big time but I will not tolerate an alcoholic, someone on the wagon, or someone that can justify their own abuse of alcohol and not anyone else's. That last part is crucial for me simply because, it is the most stupidest and irrational argument when one side that uses a drug in a semi-regular manner can say the same thing towards a side that they are complaining about to justify their own side. So we have to be similar.

And that is all I do in a recreational manner. I can tolerate like Er2003 mentioned, an occasional smoker or a smoker of cigars. I have recently quit smoking(over a year and counting and honestly that is like I quit yesterday when I smoked for around 10 years, a pack and a half a day), so a chain smoker is a no go for me yet even as I have quit, I have always been open to the idea of cigars. Not because they are somewhat healthier, but the intake of the chemical is different so if I would give in to being with the guys while golfing, or maybe if/when I have my first child, I can still partake in traditional manly ways of celebration. Doesn't mean I will do that either it is just me saying that I am open to it, so that means by default I am open to someone who occasionally smokes.

Recreational illegal drug users also bring a crowd with them that I just don't like to be around. I had my days of having druggies as my friends back in college. People being stoned all the time, 'tripping' on E, heck even a relationship that was started entirely with the use of a joint and a time that I can't remember. I don't miss that life because now, no matter how good times I may have had back then, those people are gone out of my life and I am gone from their life.

Plus...I watched a good friend of mine fight off her meth addiction. When we became friends, she just started getting clean and I will tell you what, knowing what that drug did to her is enough reason to stay away from people that still do it. Staying in the hospital for over 12 hours to find out that her prior meth use created her anxiety problems. However, it was because of her and only her that stopped me from getting into acid. She is the only friend I miss from those days.

It is just not worth believing that people fighting off serious substance abuse problems is good for me to be involved with. I gave up a friendship with someone that has to go to methadone clinics to fight off her heroine addiction and still does marijuana.

Plus, drugs is to be blamed for one of the worst songs in history, The Yellow Submarine. I play the guitar and I don't want some tripped out lover giving me the same vibes as the nonsensical song...bad joke I know.

 

[Blank123]

not sure entirely why cigarette smokers are now on the block but.... no. I have friends who are smokers, I dated a smoker, and I've been related to smokers. And its the same as with any other addiction: Always promising to quit, but always finding excuses not to. I don't want my future children being raised to see smoking as acceptable, and I don't want to risk their health, my health, or have them watch their father die a slow and painful death that could have been prevented.

What people choose to do with their own bodies is their choice and I won't argue with them about it or tell them what they already know, but I'm not going to invite that into my life on a daily basis by choosing to be in a relationship with a smoker again.

 

[Im_A]

not sure entirely why cigarette smokers are now on the block but.... no. I have friends who are smokers, I dated a smoker, and I've been related to smokers. And its the same as with any other addiction: Always promising to quit, but always finding excuses not to. I don't want my future children being raised to see smoking as acceptable, and I don't want to risk their health, my health, or have them watch their father die a slow and painful death that could have been prevented.

What people choose to do with their own bodies is their choice and I won't argue with them about it or tell them what they already know, but I'm not going to invite that into my life on a daily basis by choosing to be in a relationship with a smoker again.

nicotine is a recreational drug.

 

[K9_Trainer]

Interesting how this thread has turned more into "Would you date a regular recreational drug user/person addicted to and/or abusing a recreational drug?" when the OP asked about people who do recreational drugs only on an irregular basis at parties

 

[Edwards1984]

Interesting how this thread has turned more into "Would you date a regular recreational drug user/person addicted to and/or abusing a recreational drug?" when the OP asked about people who do recreational drugs only on an irregular basis at parties

Some people have a lot on their sleeve.

 

[MacFall]

not sure entirely why cigarette smokers are now on the block but.... no. I have friends who are smokers, I dated a smoker, and I've been related to smokers. And its the same as with any other addiction: Always promising to quit, but always finding excuses not to. I don't want my future children being raised to see smoking as acceptable, and I don't want to risk their health, my health, or have them watch their father die a slow and painful death that could have been prevented.

What people choose to do with their own bodies is their choice and I won't argue with them about it or tell them what they already know, but I'm not going to invite that into my life on a daily basis by choosing to be in a relationship with a smoker again.

Just curious here - I smoke fine tobacco occasionally (as in, a few times a month at most). I do not consider myself a "smoker". Would you differentiate between someone like me and someone who smokes a few packs of cigarettes a week?

Because to me, "fine tobacco user" is to "smoker" as "wine connoisseur" is to "alcoholic". Maybe there's some blending of the categories, but only at the edges. A smoker is far more likely to smoke a pack of Winstons than a single Nat Sherman or Hoyo de Monterrey, just as an alcoholic is far more likely to chug Keystone light or Jim Beam than sip Donnafugata Tancredi.

 

[Gym]

It might be of particular interest to you to take a look at LEAP | Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - the website of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. If historical/empirical evidence is what you need, those guys have done their homework along those lines.

Nothing you show me is going to curtail what I've seen marijuana do to people.

 

[Blank123]

Just curious here - I smoke fine tobacco occasionally (as in, a few times a month at most). I do not consider myself a "smoker". Would you differentiate between someone like me and someone who smokes a few packs of cigarettes a week?

Because to me, "fine tobacco user" is to "smoker" as "wine connoisseur" is to "alcoholic". Maybe there's some blending of the categories, but only at the edges. A smoker is far more likely to smoke a pack of Winstons than a single Nat Sherman or Hoyo de Monterrey, just as an alcoholic is far more likely to chug Keystone light or Jim Beam than sip Donnafugata Tancredi.

i'll be honest that any kind of smoking is actually a turnoff for me. I've seen how it can get ahold of someone's life, even when they think it hasn't. And I just can't be with someone who smokes.

 

[HazelWings]

...someone who uses recreational drugs on an irregular basis and only at social parties?

By the way, no I do not take drugs before anyone thinks that lol.

No.

 

[Stravinsk]

not sure entirely why cigarette smokers are now on the block but.... no. I have friends who are smokers, I dated a smoker, and I've been related to smokers. And its the same as with any other addiction: Always promising to quit, but always finding excuses not to.

Just to put in my 2 cents here. Nicotine addiction is not the same as "any other addiction".

Dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters actively involved in the brain. Research shows that by increasing the levels of dopamine within the reward circuits in the brain, nicotine acts as a chemical with intense addictive qualities. In many studies it has been shown to be more addictive than cocaine and heroin.[49][50][51]


I've heard a few people on this site say something similiar. It's simply not. My hat is off to the ex-smokers. I've been able to give up so many bad habits - from all kinds of unhealthy foods to drugs (yes, including cocaine and heroin - the former I used to do regularly as a young man) with the Lord's help - but never cigarettes. People who say giving up cigarrettes is like giving up their cheetos or fast food or whatever have simply never been addicted - and I'm not referring here to the smoker who's only done it a few years or the "social smoker" - people like my mother. I'm talking about the majority of your life addicted to nicotine.

I don't want my future children being raised to see smoking as acceptable, and I don't want to risk their health, my health, or have them watch their father die a slow and painful death that could have been prevented.

What people choose to do with their own bodies is their choice and I won't argue with them about it or tell them what they already know, but I'm not going to invite that into my life on a daily basis by choosing to be in a relationship with a smoker again.

That is something I would never fault anyone for and, as a current smoker, completely understand.

 

[Rhamiel]

...someone who uses recreational drugs on an irregular basis and only at social parties?

By the way, no I do not take drugs before anyone thinks that lol.

sure, as long as it was not a regular thing

 

[welshman]

Anyone who smokes or is a regular social drinker? No I wouldn't.

I am not going to get into a debate as to whether drinking coffee is as addictive as smoking drugs...anything can be addictive. I used to have OCD before I got saved where I used to wash my hands all the time.

If anyone thinks smoking drugs such as pot is the same as wanting a coffee to wake up in the morning then they are kidding themselves.
"Drugs" as we are labelling them (pot, regular alcohol consumption, crack, heroine etc), ruin lives. Why a Christian wants anything to do with them or condone them in any way is beyond me.

That's just my opinion (and that's me out of the debate).

So you would not date anyone who uses caffeine, nicotine, or alcohol without making sure they get "fixed" first? Or is it only the fact of a substance's illegality which matters?

 

[Blank123]

i know the science behind nicotine addiction. very well. My ex would also constantly cite the medical facts as a reason not to quit. And I understand why it is so hard to quit from a biological standpoint.And to a certain extent... yes it makes sense. but it only makes sense for so long. If a person wants to quit, they will fight like crazy to quit. In the end if your will power is strong enough... you can quit anything. nicotine, hard drugs, porn, whatever the addiction may be. Christians even have extra help with the Lord. When we are weak He is our strength.

but my original point is that its the same as any other addiction in the sense of attitude. Unless that person is committed to quitting... there will always be an excuse not to quit, despite the promises given to quit. (note that i'm talking about someone who merely talks but doesn't back it up with actions- not someone who attempts to quit and stumbles. thats reasonable to expect) It affects the trust of the relationship ultimately because when a person breaks one promise and finds ways to justify it, it then becomes that much easier to break other promises and find ways to justify it.

 

[Tamara224]

To the OP: Yes, if it was weed. No meth. Regular alcohol use is fine (i.e. 1-2 glasses of wine or beer a day) but I don't like drunks and bar-hoppers.