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[Love365]

Give poor people in the Middle East
the tools to feed themselves.

Help them grow their own food.

Some crops can grow in seawater.

Fish farms can use seawater.

Some crops can grow in a seawater greenhouse,
that turns seawater into fresh water.

Further away from the ocean,
they can have farms with desert animals.

 

[The Liturgist]

Give poor people in the Middle East
the tools to feed themselves.

Help them grow their own food.

Some crops can grow in seawater.

Fish farms can use seawater.

Some crops can grow in a seawater greenhouse,
that turns seawater into fresh water.

Further away from the ocean,
they can have farms with desert animals.

This has been done, yet there are still Islamic fundamentalists.

 

[Love365]

This has been done, yet there are still Islamic fundamentalists.

Is the food getting to the poor?

Most modern countries have abolished the death penalty.

But we have police everywhere,
it is difficult for police to get to mountain areas.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Is the food getting to the poor?

Most modern countries have abolished the death penalty.

But we have police everywhere,
it is difficult for police to get to mountain areas.

We have police here in the USA but every time there is a riot they just stand around and watch.

I don’t see how your argument or understanding in this matter line up with reality. Leads me to suspect that you may be a bot. Not sure but seems like it

 

[Love365]

We have police here in the USA but every time there is a riot they just stand around and watch.

I don’t see how your argument or understanding in this matter line up with reality. Leads me to suspect that you may be a bot. Not sure but seems like it

If you want to improve communication with the Black community,
I would suggest more Black women police officers.

St. Thomas More was a humanist and a Catholic.

God loves all souls.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

If you want to improve communication with the Black community,
I would suggest more Black women police officers.

St. Thomas More was a humanist and a Catholic.

God loves all souls.

Do you know the history of humanism? I don’t suspect that you do. As Thomas More is a Catholic saint, not a humanist. He was beheaded by Henry VIII for refusing to renounce the Catholic Church and submit to Henry.
What makes you call him a humanist?

 

[Paidiske]

Thomas More is widely considered to have been a humanist.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Thomas More is widely considered to have been a humanist.

He was a Renaissance Humanist, which was a Christian philosophy which sought to connect humanity to God. It is misleading and outright false to connect him to modern humanism.

Modern humanism denies the supernatural and the existence of God and focuses on the “spirit of man”. By denying God, modern humanism accepts the lie of Satan. “You shall be as gods”. That bears no resemblance to who Thomas More was.

 

[Paidiske]

I'd say there are different strands of humanism, even today. Including profoundly Christian ones.

 

[Love365]

The Catholic Church should have started making women priests in 1920.
We are now 100 years beyond that point.

That makes the Catholic Church look extremely conservative.
Liberal people are afraid to become priests.
Neutral people are afraid to become priests.

That causes a priest shortage.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

The Catholic Church should have started making women priests in 1920.
We are now 100 years beyond that point.

That makes the Catholic Church look extremely conservative.
Liberal people are afraid to become priests.
Neutral people are afraid to become priests.

That causes a priest shortage.

Women can never be priests. Priests are fathers, women are mothers.
Denying that is a bad idea. I am happy that the Church has not given into the spirit of the age
Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever

A woman cannot be a father. Modernism is a heresy.

 

[David Lamb]

Women can never be priests. Priests are fathers, women are mothers.
Denying that is a bad idea. I am happy that the Church has not given into the spirit of the age
Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever

A woman cannot be a father. Modernism is a heresy.

I start with a warning not to jump to conclusions about what I'm about to say. All Christian women are priests, so are all Christian men. Peter writes in his Christian readers:

“But you [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;” (1Pe 2:9 NKJV)

The idea of a set-apart sacrificial priesthood, whether of men or women or both, is not found in the New Testament.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

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That makes the Catholic Church look extremely conservative.
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Maybe they look extremely conservative because they are (or to the extremely liberal appear as such).

 

[prodromos]

The idea of a set-apart sacrificial priesthood, whether of men or women or both, is not found in the New Testament.

It is the teaching that was handed down in the very same Christian communities which preserved and handed down the New Testament. That same teaching is found wherever the Apostles established churches, from India to Africa and Western Europe.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

I start with a warning not to jump to conclusions about what I'm about to say. All Christian women are priests, so are all Christian men. Peter writes in his Christian readers:

“But you [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;” (1Pe 2:9 NKJV)

The idea of a set-apart sacrificial priesthood, whether of men or women or both, is not found in the New Testament.

We are in Denomination specific theology, so I can say that is your opinion. You won’t find it explicitly directed, but you can find it if you look

Jesus breathed on the Apostles and gave them the power to forgive sins. A man named Simon saw that Peter had power and wanted to buy it, but spiritual things cannot be bought with money.
Spiritual authority cannot be assumed for oneself but is passed on through the laying on of hands
Heaven has a hierarchy, the Church has a hierarchy, we are not all the same

Have you ever engaged in spiritual battle? If so, you can recognize that the spirits respect the hierarchy.

A husband is the head of the family and is the priest of the home. He has authority over the spirits that would harrass his wife and children. He can say the binding prayers to keep them from spiritual torment. A wife does not have authority over her husband and cannot bind his spirits. She can pray for him but not exercise authority in the same way as the husband

Also I am a man and have authority over my home. I can bind those spirits. I cannot bind the spirits of another man’s home as I have no authority over them.

A priest has authority over his parish and a bishop has authority over his dioceses. They can bind the spirits of others, I cannot

In the secular world we have the same principle. We have the castle doctrine that a man’s home is his castle and he can use deadly force to defend it.
He cannot go to other peoples homes and use deadly force, we have the police for that, and the mayor is over the police

Spiritual we view priests as policemen and bishops as mayors for the sake of spiritual battle

God rules a kingdom, not a democracy

Yes we are all priests, but what is the extent of our authority? A man is over his house and a woman is over her children

A woman cannot be a priest and be the head of men in a parish or diocese. She can be priest to her minor children not her husband

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

I start with a warning not to jump to conclusions about what I'm about to say. All Christian women are priests, so are all Christian men. Peter writes in his Christian readers:

“But you [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;” (1Pe 2:9 NKJV)

The idea of a set-apart sacrificial priesthood, whether of men or women or both, is not found in the New Testament.

It is the teaching that was handed down in the very same Christian communities which preserved and handed down the New Testament. That same teaching is found wherever the Apostles established churches, from India to Africa and Western Europe.

Communities calling themselves Christian have gone far astray. Christ the Lord told us to not call anyone in this world "Father".

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Communities calling themselves Christian have gone far astray. Christ the Lord told us to not call anyone in this world "Father".

Ah yes the cliche cometh forth

You misinterpret father as an office in the Church and in the home against the ultimate source of our being

There is one Father who is in heaven the creator of us all, but that same Father commands us to honor our mother and father. If we deny their office because God said call no one father, how can we then obey and honor them?

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

Christ the Lord told us not to call anyone in this world "Father". Many work very hard to try to bury His words in others.

 

[Paidiske]

Women can never be priests.

Of course we can.

Priests are fathers,

Not necessarily. There are parallels between shepherding a congregation and parenting, but they are just that, parallels. They are not the same thing. And they are certainly not the same thing in any way which makes the reproductive biology of the person in the role relevant.

Your further posts seem quite confused in terms of different understandings of priesthood. Parents might have authority in the home, but it is not as priests (either in the sense of the priesthood of all believers, or in the sense of eldership in the church).

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Of course we can.

Not necessarily. There are parallels between shepherding a congregation and parenting, but they are just that, parallels. They are not the same thing. And they are certainly not the same thing in any way which makes the reproductive biology of the person in the role relevant.

Your further posts seem quite confused in terms of different understandings of priesthood. Parents might have authority in the home, but it is not as priests (either in the sense of the priesthood of all believers, or in the sense of eldership in the church).

That is your opinion, but it is Catholic doctrine
What is the basis for your believing that it is untrue?

In the opinion of the Apostolic priesthood, your faith group has mitigated the priesthood, which is why Anglican orders are no longer valid

You disagree. I am asking if you would tell me why?

The Catholic Church upholds the biblical doctrine of authority. The husband is the head of the wife, she is subject to him. Granted, modernism and feminism had people no longer living like that, including those that would call themselves Catholic.

That is tares among the wheat. The teaching is still there as it is the faith once delivered to the saints. The husband is the head of the wife. She can deny it and rebel, but we are reaping the fruits of that rebellion begun in the 19th century and flowering full force in the 20th. Doesn’t look good.

Over 60,000,000 dead babies sacrificed in the altar of moloch. Broken marriages, broken homes, deserted children. Promiscuity so rampant as to be expected and chastity scorned
Men ridiculed and mocked. Tell me again thjs great wisdom that has liberated women so.

God says He desires obedience rather than sacrifice. Deny yourself and take up your cross.
Feminists exalt themselves, shout to overthrow the patriarchy, and scoff at the service of men

Hmmm, where have I heard that before? We will not serve…..