Would God allow --

[Ymeg]

An incorrect sentence, chapter, or missing part of the Bible?



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[Defcon]

The Chicago Statement of Biblical Inerrancy states:

"Article XIII
We affirm the propriety of using inerrancy as a theological term with reference to the complete truthfulness of Scripture.


We deny that it is proper to evaluate Scripture according to standards of truth and error that are alien to its usage or purpose. We further deny that inerrancy is negated by Biblical phenomena such as a lack of modern technical precision, irregularities of grammar or spelling, observational descriptions of nature, the reporting of falsehoods, the use of hyperbole and round numbers, the topical arrangement of material, variant selections of material in parallel accounts, or the use of free citations."



source: http://www.reformed.org/documents/index.html?mainframe=http://www.reformed.org/documents/icbi.html

I believe that answers the 'incorrect sentence' issue. As far as missing chapter or books - you'll find that answer on the link. The short answer is "No."

 

[OldChurchGuy]

An incorrect sentence, chapter, or missing part of the Bible?



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Interesting question. Unfortunately, there is no black and white answer to such a question.

For example, the end of Marks' gospel has a group of verses that are not found in the earliest complete manuscripts. This indicates either the author of Mark did not complete the manuscript, or the author of Mark completed the manuscript with (what to us anyway) with an incomplete ending, or the author of Mark completed the manuscript with a different ending which was lost and replaced by the one now in Mark, or the author of Mark completed the manuscript with a different ending which may not have worked well with the other gospels so it was dropped.

Since we do not have the original manuscript, we will probably never know.

So, now the question is did God want the ending of Mark that is currently in the Bible? One school of thought says yes, definitely as God was quietly directing what would and would not go into the New Testament. Another school of thought says maybe, but that people using their free will added the missing verses after praying about it and concluding this is what God wanted. A third school of thought says, no because people used their free will to add verses to Mark so it would have an ending and a secondary consideration was whether or not God wanted this particular ending.

Since we do not have the original manuscripts, nor do we know who the people were in the first couple of centuries who copied Mark, no given conclusion can be proven correct or incorrect. One can believe a certain conclusion is true, but it is more a matter of faith than provable fact.

Sorry I don't have a more simple answer.

OldChurchGuy

 

[heron]

An incorrect sentence, chapter, or missing part of the Bible?

Do a search on "Bible canon," and you will find that this process took hundreds of years of sorting and weeding, and included several changes.

 

[Merlin]

In the past 2000 years, small errors of a mark has creeped in.
We know this by comparing the current texts to the dead sea scrolls.
But even with a mark or smudge, nothing has really changed.
It's been preserved, in tact, for over 2000 years.

 

[torrancejunior]

This is one of the reasons so much interpretation is needed. Unlike other religions, God did not dictate the Bible to the writers, but they were inspired. This, in my opinion, makes it really special as it's more personal but, unfortunately, people make mistakes, as do monks who are copying the Bible over and over.

 

[rocklife]

I believe it can happen. It is a huge responsibility about Bible work, and I believe God knows the heart. Maybe a sincere mistake is not as bad as purposely changing the meaning of Bible words/ideas. But for everyone involved in that work, they have to know the bigger the responsibility, the more punishment for wrongdoing, so it is not something to be done carelessly.

God seems to know this can happen, there is a verse in Revelation "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." 22:18-19. this is a warning of what can happen even still, it is still a warning for today, and warning of future judgment. I do pray for our leaders and translators and hope they are prayerful and humble in their working with God's book and words and people.

 

[Rafael]

God is a Spirit, and the Words of God are spirit and life to those that hear them. The right message will still get across, spiritually, even if there may be a few type-os left over from translation and some questionable translation. It is a difficult thing to translate culture and language completely to our understanding today, but God has the power to spiritually inspire the truth within us so that can know Him and His plan of salvation.

 

[Key]

An incorrect sentence, chapter, or missing part of the Bible?



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God allowed the Book of Mormon. Nuff Said....

God Bless

Key

 

[Ymeg]

By this I mean the original text. Not reprints that include alterations.

 

[Bondman]

By this I mean the original text. Not reprints that include alterations.

As OldChurchGuy said, we don't have any originals. So strictly speaking no one can answer that question.

Ymeg, it is then a matter of faith that we trust God to have ensured that the originals were all accurate. NO messups! Is that what you're asking?




Okay, let's then say that God did ensure that it was all a-okay. THIS IS IMPORTANT: today we know for certain that the copies, and the copies of copies, and the copies of... you get the idea - we know that all the copying that was done over many hundreds of years was astonishingly accurate!




To me then, this means we DO have good evidence that the originals were what we have today. Which means that we can trust the Bible, i.e., the Greek text that we now have, which can be translated into English or any language anywhere in the world. Which then means that it IS God's Word, we can trust it, and we can live our lives by it - without any concern!


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[DarkLegend28]

An incorrect sentence, chapter, or missing part of the Bible?



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Well.. To my knowledge there are small mistakes in the bible.. but none too great that would change it's meaning entirely. However, I don't think it is a matter if God would allow it or not. I know of a lot of books in the bible that were written many years after an event, so they are a little off, but their meaning is still evident. Also, there are even books that were left out and I believe that it is possible that not all the books have been recovered and some may show up in the end days. However, it seems like there would be tons more mistakes than there actually are because every person's perception is different and no man has the capability of even comming close to God's infinite understanding. So things, naturally, would seem mixed up from time to time.

 

[Bondman]

Ymeg, I've just done two quite extensive posts about the accuracy of the Bible record. I've studied this for a very long time, and have set down some of what I've learnt - which I thought you may be interested in HERE - posts #12 and #13.

Best regards!


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[winsome]

An incorrect sentence, chapter, or missing part of the Bible?



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The Catholic Church says that "we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."

And scripture "makes present and fruitful in the Church the divine mystery of Christ"

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work.” writes St. Paul to Timothy, though of course by Scripture he was referring to the Old Testament.

Minor copying errors, or revision of nuances of translation do not change the truths of what Scriptures teaches regarding our salvation, or the divine mystery of Christ or our training in righteousness.

 

[Bondman]

The Catholic Church says that "we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."

And scripture "makes present and fruitful in the Church the divine mystery of Christ"

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work.” writes St. Paul to Timothy, though of course by Scripture he was referring to the Old Testament.

Minor copying errors, or revision of nuances of translation do not change the truths of what Scriptures teaches regarding our salvation, or the divine mystery of Christ or our training in righteousness.

Great post, winsome. Well said!

God bless you!


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