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Worship is the Core Issue as we see in Revelation

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It's given as one literal day, in Hebrew or English..
 
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It's given as one literal day, in Hebrew or English..

The same thing happens in the twelve yom-hour civil calendar day: all twelve offerings are presented in the one yom-day wherein the altar was anointed, each of the twelve princes of the twelve tribes in his own yom-hour. Yet the many will twist and contort themselves into pretzels in order to make it mean twelve twenty-four hour days in the day wherein the altar was anointed. It's downright comical: even wannabe prophets and prophetesses are not immune to such distortion.
 
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It is amazingly strange when one encounters wannabe prophets and prophetesses who claim a true anointing from the Almighty and, therefore, place themselves above any form of criticism. If they are at all clever about it, as some are, they avoid making any predictions concerning future events, thereby avoid the obvious means of determining whether or not they are true or false prophets or prophetesses.
 
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Most everything that literalist-futurists claim to be future is already fulfilled in Meshiah in the Gospel accounts: what remains is for they themselves to run their race to the end, as taught in the scripture. However, just in case you might be hinting at me, I neither claim nor imagine myself to be any sort of prophet, and neither do I wannabe.
 
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That actually never entered my mind. I agree with you that what remains for all of us is to run our race to the end. Thank you.
 
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Moses was just a man, but the One who wrote the Commandments on the Two Tables was the Creator who made the Sabbath, so its at the core of the conflict of true worship.


I never feel uneasy keeping the Sabbath. It's joy to me. I love going to church on Sabbath.
Allow me to present an alternative perspective on the topic of Sabbath worship. Would you be willing to share how you honor the Sabbath in accordance with God's commandments rather than merely following human traditions? It's worth noting that attending church services, while common, is not explicitly commanded, as emphasized by Jesus in Matthew 15:9, where he warns against keeping human-made instructions as vain worship.

Consider the example of Jesus and the Apostles, who indeed attended the temple and synagogues on the Sabbath. However, these places were not dedicated to worshipping Jesus; rather, they were environments where Jesus faced opposition, ultimately leading to his crucifixion. Their actions often aimed to challenge the prevailing beliefs and practices of religious leaders. Shouldn't we, then, emulate their approach by extending our efforts to other denominations or idol worshippers where there may be misunderstanding or falsehood during the Sabbath day, following the example set by Jesus and the Apostles? - Even so, that wasn't a commandment regarding the Sabbath.
 
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Moses was just a man, but the One who wrote the Commandments on the Two Tables was the Creator who made the Sabbath, so its at the core of the conflict of true worship.
You mean the central conflict of the ages between God and all-against God is which day of the week we worship on?
 
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What did Jesus say was worshipping in vain? Keeping the commandments are man over the commandments of God as He quoted directly from the Ten Commandments. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

I pray you are not trying to make the case that Jesus and the apostle worshipped in vain by going to church every Sabbath Luke 4:16 Acts 18:4 Acts 13:42-44 preaching and teaching God's Word as an example of how to keep the Sabbath day holy.
 
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Your referenced verse does not explicitly state that attending church every Sabbath is a commandment or an example of how to keep the Sabbath day holy. Instead, it is mentioned as a custom. When does the Bible ever assert that going to church equates to keeping the Sabbath?
 
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I see two possible difficulties here. First, there is virtually no possibility today of finding a place on Saturdays were there is an assembly of people, perhaps other than SDA, who one could address in an effort to correct misunderstanding or falsehood. If one were to attend a Saturday evening Catholic mass or service in a denomination which offers them on Saturday evenings, then one must face the fact that the Sabbath is over at sundown, thus limiting such efforts to summer months. If one were to attempt to address such an assembly one would be quickly expelled and possibly arrested for disturbing the peace. Jesus and the apostles were permitted, and even invited, to speak to these assemblies.

The better point is that latter-day Sabbatarians, as you have correctly noted, have invented their own traditions in an effort to produce a form of godliness which God never commanded. The problem for religious folks is that resting and doing nothing every Saturday rubs against the grain of our efforts to please God and gain merit in His eyes.
 
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