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If we are doing the best we can to obey the Lord, he will protect us from all things. We need to get over any impulse we have to worry about things.

God has set the world's future. Your goal is to pray and get up to speed
on what God planned for your before the world was created.

You might only have a few minutes left. This is why the
scriptures suggest you pray always.
 
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God has set the world's future. Your goal is to pray and get up to speed
on what God planned for your before the world was created.

You might only have a few minutes left. This is why the
scriptures suggest you pray always.
Yes, we might only have a few minutes left - maybe just a microsecond, but I think the reason we are instructed to pray always is to develop a personal relationship with the Lord and receive his guidance. Without his guidance I think we all would get ourselves into a lot of trouble. With his guidance we find paradise, right here in this lifetime.
 
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If we are doing the best we can to obey the Lord, he will protect us from all things. We need to get over any impulse we have to worry about things.

I don't see where God promises us protection from all things... Indeed Jesus made it clear in this world we shall have tribulation...
 
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:heart: Sometimes, our worrying just means that we need a hug from God. We get weary, tired, beat down in so many ways. When we find ourselves worrying (it happens), we draw near to God, crawl up on His lap, and get a hug. When our brothers and sisters are worried, we pray and we intercede for each dear one, asking our heavenly Father to minister to each dear one, as only He can.

We need not worry about worrying.

Worrying is just an indication that we need to go to our heavenly Father.

"Snuggle in God's arms. When you are hurting, when you feel lonely, left out...let him cradle you, comfort you, reassure you of His all-sufficient power and love." ~Kay Arthur
 
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I don't see where God promises us protection from all things... Indeed Jesus made it clear in this world we shall have tribulation...
Yes we will have tribulation, but in the end we are always under Gods wing. All things work good Romans 8

Romans 5:3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
 
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I don't see where God promises us protection from all things... Indeed Jesus made it clear in this world we shall have tribulation...
He commands us to have faith, does he not?
 
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I don't see where God promises us protection from all things... Indeed Jesus made it clear in this world we shall have tribulation...
He commands us to have faith, does he not?

I believe John 16:33 sums up Adstar's position.

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.

This verse simultaneously declares that we ought to have peace, while also declaring that we will have tribulation. The two would seem mutually exclusive, but that's where the depth of the passage is.

Therefore, the claim that, "he will protect us from all things," is false, but the claim, "We need to get over any impulse we have to worry about things," is true. The real challenge for the believer is in reconciling these two.
 
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I believe John 16:33 sums up Adstar's position.



This verse simultaneously declares that we ought to have peace, while also declaring that we will have tribulation. The two would seem mutually exclusive, but that's where the depth of the passage is.

Therefore, the claim that, "he will protect us from all things," is false, but the claim, "We need to get over any impulse we have to worry about things," is true. The real challenge for the believer is in reconciling these two.
If you are living in the world, then you might have tribulation. But if you have faith, things don't bother you. We've been taught not to worry.
 
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If we are doing the best we can to obey the Lord, he will protect us from all things. We need to get over any impulse we have to worry about things.

So the options are :

1. Do your best. Sincerity.
2. Have faith. Optimism
3. Expect trials (bad things). Pessimism

Not in the real world.

I follow God based on past record. He did great things. I expect He will continue to do great things. I will not murmur. I will not forget.

Psalms 106:62
62They forgot God their Savior, Who had done great things in Egypt,

Bottomline, I will not be disloyal, to God and His teachings.

1 Corinthians 10:5-6
5Nevertheless, with most of them God was not well-pleased; for they were laid low in the wilderness.

6Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved. 7Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written, “THE PEOPLE SAT DOWN TO EAT AND DRINK, AND STOOD UP TO PLAY.”
 
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So the options are :

1. Do your best. Sincerity.
2. Have faith. Optimism
3. Expect trials (bad things). Pessimism

Not in the real world.

I follow God based on past record. He did great things. I expect He will continue to do great things. I will not murmur. I will not forget.

Psalms 106:62
62They forgot God their Savior, Who had done great things in Egypt,

Bottomline, I will not be disloyal, to God and His teachings.

1 Corinthians 10:5-6
5Nevertheless, with most of them God was not well-pleased; for they were laid low in the wilderness.

6Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved. 7Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written, “THE PEOPLE SAT DOWN TO EAT AND DRINK, AND STOOD UP TO PLAY.”
Having faith is different than being optimistic. It means you trust the Lord to see you through every problem.
 
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Having faith is different than being optimistic. It means you trust the Lord to see you through every problem.

Optimism is generally being confident without reason. That's foolish, unrealistic. Joshua's faith was based on remembering God's great works. Pessimism is doubt without reason. The other Israelites were doubtful without reason. Their cowardice made them set aside their memory of God's great works.

Which do you chose? Assuming God did great things in your life. Assuming you heard the right Gospel.
 
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Optimism is generally being confident without reason. That's foolish, unrealistic. Joshua's faith was based on remembering God's great works. Pessimism is doubt without reason. The other Israelites were doubtful without reason. Their cowardice made them set aside their memory of God's great works.

Which do you chose? Assuming God did great things in your life. Assuming you heard the right Gospel.
Yes. But the temptation is there to worry. And so we must overcome that temptation. How beautiful life would be if we would trust and obey the Lord, huh?
 
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Then why worry?

When things go wrong, it's God testing you to see if you've learnt, not to worry. Its not as if God couldn't provide water to Israel in the wilderness.

Matthew 6:25-33

The Cure for Anxiety

25“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26“Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? 27“And who of you by being worried can add a singlehour to his life? 28“And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin, 29yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these. 30“But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith! 31“Do not worry then, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear for clothing?’ 32“For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33“But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

1 Peter 4:12,13
12Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; 13but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation
 
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Then why worry?

When things go wrong, it's God testing you to see if you've learnt, not to worry. Its not as if God couldn't provide water to Israel in the wilderness.

Matthew 6:25-33

The Cure for Anxiety

25“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26“Look at the birds of the air, that they do not sow, nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? 27“And who of you by being worried can add a singlehour to his life? 28“And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin, 29yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these. 30“But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith! 31“Do not worry then, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear for clothing?’ 32“For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33“But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

1 Peter 4:12,13
12Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; 13but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation
There is no reason to worry.
 
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