Hi Tawhano,Tawhano said:
Define what you believe the Old and New Covenant consist of and I will respond. You have my un-divided attention.
Your brother in Christ,
TheTruthSeeker
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Hi Tawhano,Tawhano said:I am not confused at all. If you bothered to read my post you wouldnt have to ask me to define what I believe is the old and new covenant.
Obviously I dont, seeing how I already told you what I believed and you ignored that post. I do not wish to participate in whatever little game you are playing sorry.thetruthseeker said:
You have my un-divided attention.
Schae7 said:Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that you should listen to people. I agree that it is a command. All that I'm saying is that if you choose to work on the 7th day, you should at least set aside a day for the same purpose. Like I said, I'm not saying "pretend" it is the Sabbath. I am simply saying to at least set aside a day for that same purpose. I am in no way saying to oppose what the bible says. I am saying that if you choose to work on that day to at least set aside another day for God. I believe everyday is for God but sometimes life gets in the way of specific commands. I am not saying that it is right but I am saying that it does. I think that if you can't or won't or don't obey that command it is at least better to set aside somthing for God rather than forget that he deserves a least a day. I understand the Sabbath day and I understand the command. I am just saying to give God at least a day and I don't think there is anything wrong with saying that. God bless all!
And who do YOU say wrote the 10 commandments?Originally Posted By: Tawhano
I believe the Bible is clear that the laws have been fulfilled and no longer applicable to the new covenant that Jesus brought to us but that the commandments that Jesus gave us are the commandments to live by.
Two things:wblastyn said:I was at an interview today for a part time job in a store, they told me I would have to work on some Sundays and asked me if my religious beliefs forbid it or anything, I panicked because I wasn't sure and I just said it was fine.
I'm wondering if working on Sundays is against Christian beliefs? I know we're supposed to keep the Sabbath Holy, but the non-working thing was for jews wasn't it? Plus Sunday isn't really the Sabbath, it's Saturday.
see the pattern? truthseeker is not here to learn - his questions are always loaded. He thinks he has it all figured out.Tawhano said:Obviously I dont, seeing how I already told you what I believed and you ignored that post. I do not wish to participate in whatever little game you are playing sorry.
Hi admtaylor. Like you I also have the type of Job that requires someone being there 24-7.admtaylor said:I work Saturday overnights and Sunday overnights. I work for a company that cares for men and women with mental and physical disabilities. I have to be here. I still find time to worship with my church brothers and sisters, I go to church after work. And I still find time to rest, my days off. I also find time for devotion to God outside of church. So, I don't think I'm doing wrong. I think if I was the Lord would make it clear to me.
Ah... trick question eh?YVA-REKHKHA ADONAI Said:
And who do YOU say wrote the 10 commandments?
I unfortunately crossed paths with him on another thread. He ignored me there as well. There are many like him here.geocajun said:
see the pattern? truthseeker is not here to learn...
geocajun said:ahh yes.. well there are many spirits out there. how is it that you know the one your giving authority to is Holy?
Tawhano said:Ah... trick question eh?
To me this is common courtesy to do so.
So you are just going to post a snide remark and leave it at that are you? Care to point out why you make such a comment?Whitehorse said:
You're famous for your common courtesy.
If you're part of a religion that teaches Sabbath observance as a ritual, then it would be illegal for them not to hire you because you can't work on Sundays. The law says that they have to make every reasonable accomodation for you.wblastyn said:I was at an interview today for a part time job in a store, they told me I would have to work on some Sundays and asked me if my religious beliefs forbid it or anything, I panicked because I wasn't sure and I just said it was fine.
No.I'm wondering if working on Sundays is against Christian beliefs?
But what you have to remember is that Jesus is our Sabbath now. We're not bound to a strict observance of the Sabbath. This is precisely why the Bible tells us "not to esteem one day over another".I know we're supposed to keep the Sabbath Holy, but the non-working thing was for jews wasn't it? Plus Sunday isn't really the Sabbath, it's Saturday.
Tawhano said:So you are just going to post a snide remark and leave it at that are you? Care to point out why you make such a comment?
sure, I have no problem with answering this. I belong to the visible Church established in the bible. The Church I belong to gave us the bible, and told us it was inspired by God. I cannot put my trust in the bible without first putting my trust in the Catholic Church - otherwise its just a book with no authoritative source for interpretation or even to declare it to be the word of God.Whitehorse said:A fair question, and you are free to answer my question as well. You can tell the Holy Spirit because what He tells you lines up with what is in the word of God. I also test the sprits regularly as instructed in scripture. After 30+ years, it gets easier to detect the true Spirit of God from the one who appears as an angel of light.
So how 'bout you?
geocajun said:sure, I have no problem with answering this. I belong to the visible Church established in the bible. The Church I belong to gave us the bible, and told us it was inspired by God. I cannot put my trust in the bible without first putting my trust in the Catholic Church - otherwise its just a book with no authoritative source for interpretation or even to declare it to be the word of God.
I trust the Church with my faith, because the Church has shown for 2,000 years she can safeguard the faith against all odds, and her teachings line up perfectly with scripture. I trust that the Catholic Church is lead by the Holy Spirit because I believe to be Christian and think anything else is inconsistant with scripture.
The Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth.
Whitehorse, why does scripture call the Church the pillar and foudation of Truth?Whitehorse said:Well, one thing we need to sort out is whether you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God as written in the scriptures. If so, consider this: The church is comprised only of sinful human beings and nothing more. But God's word is from the Lord Himself. I would strongly recommend against putting your faith in the church. God is a jealous God-He wants you to put your faith in Him alone, and it is the word that shows us how to do that.
Thank you for your gracious reply. Blessings to you.
yes, I believe this to be true because the Catholic Church told me it is.Whitehorse said:Well, one thing we need to sort out is whether you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God as written in the scriptures.
It was not hand written by God - God used men - yes, sinners - to write his word - and then tell us that it was His word...If so, consider this: The church is comprised only of sinful human beings and nothing more. But God's word is from the Lord Himself.
what word are you referring to? the word the Church gives us?I would strongly recommend against putting your faith in the church. God is a jealous God-He wants you to put your faith in Him alone, and it is the word that shows us how to do that.
geocajun said:yes, I believe this to be true because the Catholic Church told me it is.
It was not hand written by God - God used men - yes, sinners - to write his word - and then tell us that it was His word...
Well, we're back to square one. Is the Bible God's word? Since you've already says it is, then whose word is more important? That of the Creator, or that of the created?what word are you referring to? the word the Church gives us?
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