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"Work out your own salvation"

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Is it because you're making a connection to Life itself?
That's part of it, but its love too. I have been deeply depressed and in dark despair, for a long time, but I slowly grew through it by following the example of King David, who said to wait on the Lord, and also the apostle paul who said God's grace was sufficient for his weakness. I also learned to be content with simple things. Life is full of simple pleasures that God has given to us.
 
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That's part of it, but its love too. I have been deeply depressed and in dark despair, for a long time, but I slowly grew through it by following the example of King David, who said to wait on the Lord, and also the apostle paul who said God's grace was sufficient for his weakness. I also learned to be content with simple things. Life is full of simple pleasures that God has given to us.
Funny enough I seemed to improve more after giving Jesus the flick. But here's the thing, I have arrived at the same conclusions as you.

But then
 
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Now remember, I never meant this thread topic to be about works. What ever it means by work out your own salvation, just means it's between you and God.

That how I see it.
Right, if it is not works as you agree, then it is a gift we are entrusted with and we are to care for it.
 
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Funny enough I seemed to improve more after giving Jesus the flick. But here's the thing, I have arrived at the same conclusions as you.

But then
I spoke of love that I feel. Where did your love come from if you gave up on the Lord? Did your heart feel love from itself?
 
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I once became so bitter because of loveless people, that I wanted to give up on God. Then however I remembered that the Lord is all that is kind, generous, merciful, gentle, and beautiful. The Lord is my light in this dark world. I would sooner give up everything before I give up the only hope I have, the only untarnished beauty, the only unfailing love
 
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I spoke of love that I feel. Where did your love come from if you gave up on the Lord? Did your heart feel love from itself?
Hmm, love.

What is love?

For me it's the desire to learn about others and encourage them do the same.

You can't have a relationship with someone if you don't desire to know them.
 
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Hmm, love.

What is love?

For me it's the desire to learn about others and encourage them do the same.

You can't have a relationship with someone if you don't desire to know them.
Love is what I feel for the Lord. I never use to have that. I admitted to God that I didn't love him as I should, because He already knows and he likes honesty and humility. Since then however I feel love for him, and its growing inside. Love for people is something I pray about too. Love for others includes our enemies. I'm not sure that's possible without Gods help.
 
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You sound like an atheist who mocks our faith, as if its nothing special. You cant mock something you never experienced though. I would encourage you to be reconciled to the Lord. If love is what you seek then do not forsake the Lord. God is love.
 
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I once became so bitter because of loveless people, that I wanted to give up on God. Then however I remembered that the Lord is all that is kind, generous, merciful, gentle, and beautiful. The Lord is my light in this dark world. I would sooner give up everything before I give up the only hope I have, the only untarnished beauty, the only unfailing love
Well guess I went there, it's my choice.
 
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You sound like an atheist who mocks our faith, as if its nothing special. You cant mock something you never experienced though. I would encourage you to be reconciled to the Lord. If love is what you seek then do not forsake the Lord. God is love.
Nope not an Atheist, I do in fact accept a great deal of biblical text. But I don't say that to illicit favor.
 
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