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I would say there is no contradiction and I agree with both. Please read on.

As many people already stated. Paul was saying the work that is required in the law should be a product of faith. Faith is good tree and good work is good fruit. If there is no good tree, the work will not be good fruit.

For the words of James, my understanding is James was saying that work and faith are not separable. Basicly, every tree bear fruits, just like every living people does something, even playing is something. Once there is faith, the tree is called good tree and the fruits will be called good fruits, even playing is good work. If the tree does not have fruits or have bad fruit, this is a sign that there is no faith.

The definition of work can be broad. Some work can be seen and some may not be seen. Only God see all the works. For example, even if we did not do anything to other people, we think of and trying to understand God's words, we are working on ourselves. This is called good works. God can see this. But people cannot see this and may say that this guy is not doing anything good. But if you think that making oneself trust in God is itself a great work, you will not say that.
I'd say, good answer. Given faith, works will result as the believer grows in a life of grace.

I wouldn't go so far as to say God looks at faith as if it's a work. I think Romans 4:1-5 says God changes the way He deals with people, and it's not based on acknowledgement of works, or even faith as a work. It's a different "economy" than work for wages -- it's unmerited favor toward God's people.
 
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I do not try to interpret another man's thoughts put down on paper.

That is beyond my horizon. So even if you were right about their thoughts. I would not know it. How do you know you are right?

I don't think it is appropriate to say words in the Bible is man's thoughts put down on paper. Let us ask the help from God, we will be able to understand.

Matthew 7:8
For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
 
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I don't think it is appropriate to say words in the Bible is man's thoughts put down on paper. Let us ask the help from God, we will be able to understand.

Matthew 7:8
For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

I do not care what you think is appropiate or not appropiate. Did you ever think about that?
 
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I do not care what you think is appropiate or not appropiate. Did you ever think about that?
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Here you are again asking questions. If you do not believe the Holy Bible is the word of God given to man by inspiration then you do not truly believe in God.

Seek the answers to your questions from God and maybe you will become a true believer.
 
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I do not care what you think is appropiate or not appropiate. Did you ever think about that?

I am sorry and I should have said I believe it is not appropiate. Why don't you post what your opinion about this question is? Work and faith, what do you think of them?
 
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I am sorry and I should have said I believe it is not appropiate. Why don't you post what your opinion about this question is? Work and faith, what do you think of them?

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