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Bradskii

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Notwithstanding that the person quoting the link has misread the proportions completely incorrectly, the summary specifically finishes with a confirmation of what you posted above (my emphasis):

'This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males (males being sexually attracted to other males) have a greater propensity to offend against children.'

But hey, why quote the part of the paper that dismantles your prejudice?
 
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Did you miss that part? It's the righteous judgement of God. It wasn't my idea.

Where did I say He's wrong? I simply said it wasn't my idea.
You did not say 'God was wrong'. How could you? Of course putting homosexuals to death was not your own idea. You just go along with it.

Frankly, coming from a purported Christian, that is alarming. Have you learned nothing from the Gospels?
 
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This is not a meaningful distinction. Right-wing media and politics is full of hysteria over “grooming” allegedly done by the lgbt community. DeSantis in Florida ran his whole campaign for governor over it, as did Youngkin in Virginia.
 
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Then it sounds like you're trying to make this personal. It couldn't be more obvious.
 
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You did not say 'God was wrong.' How could you? Of course putting homosexuals to death was not your own idea. You just go along with it.

Frankly, coming from a purported Christian, that is alarming. Have you learned nothing from the Gospels?

Who said anything about "putting homosexuals to death"?
Once again, the verse says, ""Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die".

Nobody is saying that we're going to put them to death.
 
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This is not a meaningful distinction. Right-wing media and politics is full of hysteria over “grooming” allegedly done by the lgbt community. DeSantis in Florida ran his whole campaign for governor over it, as did Youngkin in Virginia.

Good thing they both won. Society obviously agrees with them.
 
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Good thing they both won. Society obviously agrees with them.
It is unequivocally a bad thing that they won, but it proves my point. Apparently it’s against the rules to suggest that homophobia finds its home in social conservatism. So I’ll just leave it at that.
 
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Who said anything about "putting homosexuals to death"?
Once again, the verse says, ""Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die".

Nobody is saying that we're going to put them to death.
What would be wrong with putting them to death?
 
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Nobody is saying that we're going to put them to death.
Well, it's kind of illegal to do that where we both live. Not everywhere of course. Yet you've quoted biblical verses that say that they deserve to die. And you don't disagree with that.

And you still haven't corrected your nonsensical misreading of the medical paper to which you linked.
 
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Well, it's kind of illegal to do that where we both live. Not everywhere of course. Yet you've quoted biblical verses that say that they deserve to die. And you don't disagree with that.

What is said in scripture to be deserved isn't a commandment for us to carry out. It simply points out the condition that those people are in so they can see their need to change. The verse speaks against those who not only do the things that makes them deserving of death, but also give their approval to others who do the same things. The "pride" movement is a manifestation of that.

And you still haven't corrected your nonsensical misreading of the medical paper to which you linked.

Why would I "correct" what I agree with? If you don't agree with the article, it's up to you to do the correcting.
 
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What is said in scripture to be deserved isn't a commandment for us to carry out.
Nobody said you wanted to kill anyone. But you agree with the bible when it says they deserve death. This couldn't be clearer.
Why would I "correct" what I agree with? If you don't agree with the article, it's up to you to do the correcting.
You quoted a fact from the paper which you misread. I see this so often. Something is cherry picked, misinterpreted, misread or confused and it then becomes a fact. You link to a paper that says one thing trying to prove a point and It says something completely different.

What hope is there of you grasping anything factual that anyone else posts with which you disagree if you can't even understand what you yourself post?
 
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Nobody said you wanted to kill anyone. But you agree with the bible when it says they deserve death. This couldn't be clearer.

Is it a problem for you if I agree with scripture?


If I say something you believe is in error, you're free to offer up a counter-argument to it. But simply complaining that I said something you don't agree with is not constructive.
 
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Is it a problem for you if I agree with scripture?
If it says that gay people deserve death, then yes.
If I say something you believe is in error, you're free to offer up a counter-argument to it. But simply complaining that I said something you don't agree with is not constructive.
It's an error in fact. It's not that I simply disagree with what you said, it's what you said was plainly and factually and obviously wrong. You seem determined not to make any attempt to investigate it and correct it, even though you've been told a few times that you were wrong. My guess would be that what you said seems so patently true to you that you can't see it as being so obviously wrong.
 
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If it says that gay people deserve death, then yes.

Regardless of what you or I agree with, it says what it says.


If your claim is so factual, you'd be able to point it out to me. If your claim is provable, you'd have done so already.
 
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The scripture is one way. What's the other?
You want to agree with the Bible, but you don’t want to agree that gay people deserve to be killed. You can’t agree with the Bible without saying that. So say it.
 
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Regardless of what you or I agree with, it says what it says.
I don't agree with it. And neither do other Christians. It's a monstrously evil thing to say. The point is that you agree with it.
If your claim is so factual, you'd be able to point it out to me. If your claim is provable, you'd have done so already.
You said regarding paedophilia that homosexuals outnumber heterosexuals by a factor of 11. As I said, you are so blinded by your bias that that figure seemed entirely appropriate to you. You had it completely the wrong way around. How about you go back and re-read your own link.
 
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in the article Aldebaran does not understand two ratios are discussed.
the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1.
So for example if you have , say , 21 million people , you expect to have 1 million androphiles

the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1
So for example if you have , say, 12000 paedphiles then you expect 1000 homosexuals
 
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You want to agree with the Bible, but you don’t want to agree that gay people deserve to be killed. You can’t agree with the Bible without saying that. So say it.
I agree with what the Bible says.
 
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