Wisconsin Democrat leadership continues drop box push

[Valletta]

Kaul wrote that, by spring 2021, 570 drop boxes were placed across 66 of Wisconsin’s 72 counties and the share of Wisconsin voters casting an absentee ballot increased from 6% to 30% from 2002 to 2022.

Wisconsin Democrat leadership continues drop box push - Washington Examiner

Wisconsin’s Democrat leadership continued its push for drop boxes as Attorney General Josh Kaul filed a response brief.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Drop boxes that are not physically monitored make it easier for election cheating.

 

[comana]

Kaul wrote that, by spring 2021, 570 drop boxes were placed across 66 of Wisconsin’s 72 counties and the share of Wisconsin voters casting an absentee ballot increased from 6% to 30% from 2002 to 2022.

Wisconsin Democrat leadership continues drop box push - Washington Examiner

Wisconsin’s Democrat leadership continued its push for drop boxes as Attorney General Josh Kaul filed a response brief.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Drop boxes that are not physically monitored make it easier for election cheating.

Has this proven to be a problem anywhere? CO has over 400 drop boxes. I can’t think of any issues here.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Are only Republicans allowed to bring election-law cases to the courts? The 'push' in OP title is the state AG filing a brief in a WI Supreme Court case about drop boxes.​

Wisconsin Supreme Court will reconsider ruling limiting absentee ballot drop boxes​

 

[Pommer]

Drop boxes that are not physically monitored make it easier for election cheating.

Please for to explain how unmonitored drop boxes make for easier cheating.

 

[Fantine]

Since no fraud occurred in the past two elections, the Court shouldn't take this case at all.

We should be encouraging everyone to vote.

 

[Valletta]

Since no fraud occurred in the past two elections, the Court shouldn't take this case at all.

We should be encouraging everyone to vote.

A number of election laws around the country were violated, including in Wisconsin. Give the amount of wrongdoing Republicans are gathering 100,000 people just for election integrity.

 

[Fantine]

The 100,000 want voter suppression.

61 out of 62 audits showed the complaints of fraud to be completely unfounded.

Instead honest people living in blue zip codes will have to jump through hoops to exercise voting rights.

 

[Arcangl86]

Drop boxes that are not physically monitored make it easier for election cheating.

How?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Since no fraud occurred in the past two elections, the Court shouldn't take this case at all.

This case is being made by the Democratic AG (the "democrat leadership" of the thread title) to *remove* newly added restrictions on drop boxes. Not taking this case will leave the restrictions in place.

We should be encouraging everyone to vote.

That's the way it used to be.

 

[Valletta]

Has this proven to be a problem anywhere? CO has over 400 drop boxes. I can’t think of any issues here.

Yes, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled it was illegal. The court pointed out that the extensive Wisconsin law on absentee voting says absolutely nothing about using drop boxes, and therefore if they want to use drop boxes the Wisconsin state legislature must act and pass legislation. You can't just do it because Democrat leaders are for it.

 

[comana]

Yes, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled it was illegal. The court pointed out that the extensive Wisconsin law on absentee voting says absolutely nothing about using drop boxes, and therefore if they want to use drop boxes the Wisconsin state legislature must act and pass legislation. You can't just do it because Democrat leaders are for it.

The law stating nothing does not make it illegal unless explicitly stated as illegal. Anyway, how does it increase fraud? You never answered. And show your work. Many sites use them with no issues.

it does make voting easier which is not what republicans want.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I mean, we certainly need to keep an eye on the Republican electorate for election and voter fraud. That's something we've certainly seen in past elections.

 

[Valletta]

The law stating nothing does not make it illegal unless explicitly stated as illegal. Anyway, how does it increase fraud? You never answered. And show your work. Many sites use them with no issues.

it does make voting easier which is not what republicans want.

Fraud is a very specific crime. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled it was illegal, they did not claim it was fraudulent. The chain of custody is very important, and with an unmanned dropbox, for just one example, there is nothing to stop one individual from putting in multiple ballots. An individual could put in blank sheets of paper and fill up the drop box, preventing those who expected to use it from being able to vote. I urge everyone in Wisconsin to obey the law, lobby your state legislator to pass drop box legislation if you wish, but don't go ahead and put out ballot boxes in defiance of the Supreme Court.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Fraud is a very specific crime. The Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled it was illegal, they did not claim it was fraudulent. The chain of custody is very important, and with an unmanned dropbox, for just one example, there is nothing to stop one individual from putting in multiple ballots. An individual could put in blank sheets of paper and fill up the drop box, preventing those who expected to use it from being able to vote. I urge everyone in Wisconsin to obey the law, lobby your state legislator to pass drop box legislation if you wish, but don't go ahead and put out ballot boxes in defiance of the Supreme Court.

The Wisconsin State Legislature is the ones that wrote all of the anti-voter laws in the first place, including the ones that keep them in power. Don't bother writing to them, just vote them out.

 

[essentialsaltes]

but don't go ahead and put out ballot boxes in defiance of the Supreme Court.

Nobody is doing that. The Supreme Court is being petitioned to reconsider its decision.

 

[Valletta]

Nobody is doing that. The Supreme Court is being petitioned to reconsider its decision.

I'm talking election time. They broke the law last time and I urge them not to do it again.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I'm talking election time. They broke the law last time

The decision is the latest in a legal battle that began in January, after a Waukesha County judge sided with a conservative legal group in a lawsuit, declaring state law doesn't allow for unstaffed ballot drop boxes and requires that voters physically return their own absentee ballots.

Although an appeals court temporarily blocked the order for contests in February, the ban was in effect for local elections in April.

Since the matter was still being appealed, it was legal in February when a judge allowed them to be used, but banned in April when they weren't.

 

[Valletta]

Nobody is doing that. The Supreme Court is being petitioned to reconsider its decision.

Their decision that drop boxes in Wisconsin are illegal.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Their decision that drop boxes in Wisconsin are illegal.

Correct. it's similar to this situation:

North Carolina GOP: You've had first state supreme court ruling, yes, but what about second state supreme court ruling?

In win for GOP, NC Supreme Court positioned to reverse major voting rights cases​

The North Carolina Supreme Court's decision Friday to rehear a high-profile redistricting case and a controversial voter ID case indicates that the court's new GOP majority plans to undo voting rights rulings that had been seen as victories for Democrats.

Republican lawmakers lost the nationally watched redistricting case — Harper v. Hall — last year, when the court ruled that extreme partisan gerrymandering is unconstitutional.

Writing for the majority Friday, however, Republican Justice Trey Allen said that the court is allowed to rehear cases when it’s possible “that the opinion may be erroneous.”

That’s what GOP leaders argued in a Jan. 20 court filing, less than three weeks after Allen and fellow new Republican Justice Richard Dietz were sworn in, flipping the court from a 4-3 Democratic majority to 5-2 in favor of Republicans.

“Respect for the institution and the integrity of its processes kept opportunities for rehearing narrow in scope and exceedingly rare,” [Justice Earls] wrote. “Today, that tradition is abandoned. Nothing has changed since we rendered our opinion in this case on 16 December 2022: The legal issues are the same; the evidence is the same; and the controlling law is the same. The only thing that has changed is the political composition of the Court.”

 

[Arcangl86]

I'm talking election time. They broke the law last time and I urge them not to do it again.

No, they made a decision that the law did not speak clearly one way or another about. It was only after the election that the courts found the use of drop boxes to be illegal.