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Will Sean Hannity go through with his commitment to be waterboarded for charity?

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How does water boarding people caught in Iraq supposed to scare terrorists?
The last I checked there were three, yes three different people who were waterboarded. Six years ago. None of whom were harmed. They were not simply people caught in Iraq but terrorist coordinators who had very valuable knowledge that we knew would be imperative to preventing future attacks and they would not otherwise speak. Those were the conditions that Pelosi & Co approved and I think they made the right choice. So I think you can see what I mean as far as scaring them. Do we want our enemies to not fear us?
 
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The last I checked there were three, yes three different people who were waterboarded. Six years ago. They were not simply people caught in Iraq but terrorist coordinators who had very valuable knowledge that we knew would be imperative to preventing future attacks and they would not otherwise speak. Those were the conditions that Pelosi & Co approved and I think they made the right choice. So I think you can see what I mean as far as scaring them. Do we want our enemies to not fear us.

Well said.
 
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The last I checked there were three, yes three different people who were waterboarded. Six years ago. They were not simply people caught in Iraq but terrorist coordinators who had very valuable knowledge that we knew would be imperative to preventing future attacks and they would not otherwise speak. Those were the conditions that Pelosi & Co approved and I think they made the right choice. So I think you can see what I mean as far as scaring them. Do we want our enemies to not fear us.
No extremist will ever refrain from an attack because he is afraid that he will be caught and tortured.

If anything, the knowledge that the US uses torture will only serve to alienate the moderates and play into the hands of the extremists by supporting their belief that the West is evil and should be destroyed by any means.
 
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No extremist will ever refrain from an attack because he is afraid that he will be caught and tortured.

The purpose of waterboarding (not torture IMO) is not like sentencing standards used to dissuade criminals because of the penalty, it is(was) a tool used to extract time sensitive information.

And it worked.
 
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By claiming he'll undergo waterboarding, he's trying to convince his viewers that waterboarding really isn't that bad. It's a publicity stunt, but I think it's an appropriate one. If he wants to convince us that it's not harmful, do it.
We subject our elite armed forces to waterboarding as part of their SEAR training. Why should terrorists be treated better than our own military?
 
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The last I checked there were three, yes three different people who were waterboarded. Six years ago. They were not simply people caught in Iraq but terrorist coordinators who had very valuable knowledge that we knew would be imperative to preventing future attacks and they would not otherwise speak. Those were the conditions that Pelosi & Co approved and I think they made the right choice. So I think you can see what I mean as far as scaring them. Do we want our enemies to not fear us.
I see. Since there hasn't been an attack since 9/11, that means that water boarding worked!!!!!!!
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Yeah for we who strike fear into the fear strikers.
 
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The purpose of waterboarding is not like sentencing standards used to dissuade criminals because of the penalty, it is(was) a tool used to extract time sensitive information.

And it worked.
That is debatable, and in any case I was referring to the implied statement that the fear of waterboarding is a deterrent.
 
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They were waterboarded 246 times. Why did you omit that fact? Is it because you are trying to devalue what really happened for personal benefit of argument?

Hitchens is hardly a liberal. He is conservative to a T and cannot wait to tell you that.

Hannity was called on the carpet in that video, you can clearly see in his face that he was shown a Royal Flush to his J High. He knew he'd have to agree and then hope his audience forgets. Knowing how incoherent Fox is helps Hannity know his audience will either forget, or will continue to watch because he validates an extremely simple world view.
 
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Because the special forces are volunteers that can quit at any time?
I think you're taking the whole "freedom" thing to extremes. It sounds like you're a half step from suggesting we ask the terrorists to voluntarily imprison themselves.

As far as extremists, well, I think there might be some things that scare them into cooperation. For example when Kalid Sheik Muhammed was waterboarded he sang like a canary. Another example I heard of was during some war in the Philippines and Pacific islands against Muslim extremists. Some army commander whose group captured 50 muslim extremists had them all lined up and tied. He had a pig slaughtered and the blood poured all over them. he then had all but one executed. Thus in their minds they could not enter Heaven since they died impure or something like that. The one who was not killed was set free so he could tell his buddies what happened.

Not sure exactly where or when this happened.
 
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They were waterboarded 246 times. Why did you omit that fact? Is it because you are trying to devalue what really happened for personal benefit of argument?

Every drip counts a (1). So it was not 264 separate occasions, although if it were it would just make me happier.

Hannity is pretty much an idiot, but waterboarding is a fine way to make a canary sing.
 
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They were waterboarded 246 times. Why did you omit that fact? Is it because you are trying to devalue what really happened for personal benefit of argument?
Actually it's because I was not aware of it. If it took 246 times to make them talk then it seems it was barely rough enough to make them talk.
Hitchens is hardly a liberal. He is conservative to a T and cannot wait to tell you that.
I am aware. What of it?
Hannity was called on the carpet in that video, you can clearly see in his face that he was shown a Royal Flush to his J High. He knew he'd have to agree and then hope his audience forgets. Knowing how incoherent Fox is helps Hannity know his audience will either forget, or will continue to watch because he validates an extremely simple world view.
Yes I agree, Sean Hannity and Grima Wormtongue were separated at birth. Certainly Conservatives and Nancy Pelosi are far worse than the terrorists they condemn, as liberal dogma clearly teaches that those who condemn are only doing so because they themselves are wicked. Except, of course, if they are condemning racism, homophobia, capitalism, etcetera. Waterboarding is absolutely wrong even when it saves thousands of lives. However, if it proves Sean Hannity wrong and throws some news anchor chump change to charity . . .
 
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The last I checked there were three, yes three different people who were waterboarded. Six years ago. None of whom were harmed. They were not simply people caught in Iraq but terrorist coordinators who had very valuable knowledge that we knew would be imperative to preventing future attacks and they would not otherwise speak. Those were the conditions that Pelosi & Co approved and I think they made the right choice. So I think you can see what I mean as far as scaring them. Do we want our enemies to not fear us?
And now the true motive comes forward - fighting fire with fire.

Do you know what the FBI calls the unlawful use of or threats of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives?

This isn't about intelligence...it's about sending terrorists a message.
 
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We subject our elite armed forces to waterboarding as part of their SEAR training. Why should terrorists be treated better than our own military?
They're not. The training was to enable certain soldiers to withstand TORTURE that evil countries indulge in.
 
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And now the true motive comes forward - fighting fire with fire.

Do you know what the FBI calls the unlawful use of or threats of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives?

This isn't about intelligence...it's about sending terrorists a message.
Hahaha, yeah, "Don't bomb civilians" is a political message now? Certainly we are wrongly spearheading a political message of Don't Kill our Babies using a reign of terrorism-by-nose-watering. Of course Nancy Pelosi and Conservatives are terrorists themselves, otherwise they wouldn't be on the DHS watchlist! This is why Rosie O'Donnell says Christians are an equal or greater threat than extremist Muslims: they incite fear in Baby Bakers to spread their wicked, extreme, and very subjective political agenda of Stop Killing Us & Our Children.
 
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Hahaha, yeah, "Don't bomb civilians" is a political message now? Certainly we are wrongly spearheading a political message of Don't Kill our Babies using a reign of terrorism-by-nose-watering. Of course Nancy Pelosi and Conservatives are terrorists themselves, otherwise they wouldn't be on the DHS watchlist! This is why Rosie O'Donnell says Christians are an equal or greater threat than extremist Muslims: they incite fear in Baby Bakers to spread their wicked, extreme, and very subjective political agenda of Stop Killing Us & Our Children.
You have nothing to say about Hannity and his offer to be water boarded? That is the topic. From your continued support of water boarding and other torture methods, one would suspect that you have assisted in such practices. Why else would you support ineffective methods?
 
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