E.C.
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EC, didn't you used to belong to the RCC church?
That is a matter I don't always share lightly.
It has more to do with things going on in my life over the course of about two years as well as God's work more so that comparing and contrasting beliefs between Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
Why did you change religious groups? Do you feel that you knew Christ when you met with the RCC the way that you know Him now?
God called me East.
I knew Christ in the Roman Catholic Church. Still know Him just as well now as I did then. Yet in different ways.
If they were baptized, than yes. Yet there is a difference between having the Holy Spirit live in you and listening to Him.For people to say that they are "Christian" means different things to different people. Many people "go to church" every once in a while or perhaps on a regular basis and think that going and sitting and listening to someone talk about the Lord makes them a Christian.
Other people think because they put up a tree and decorate it at Christmas that makes them a Christian. However, does that mean that they are born again?
Does it mean that Christ lives in them?
Born-Again Christians, aka Evangelicals, are not the only Christians on the planet. At baptism, one is born again no matter what Church/faith/denomination so long as baptized "In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".
I know that for my husband, growing up going to the Lutheran church - church was where they went on Sundays. It was what his family did, but it did not lead Him to know the Lord. In fact, he has a vivid memory of a pastor telling a story about how there would be golf in heaven if you like playing golf and how even as a child around the age of 12 or so my husband thought that concept was ridiculous.
This is were I disagree: all things lead one to God, it is just a matter of listening to Him.He does remember that at one point the church they went to got a new young preacher and he was preaching something different - more living probably, and his parents were not comfortable with the new guy and they quit that church and went to another one.
There is one Orthodox soon-to-be-glorified (canonized) Saint who was raised Methodist. He later became an Atheist, than a Buddhist and via his studies in colleges; became Orthodox and later a Heiromonk (priest-monk). All things in his life lead him to Orthodoxy. Just as my Roman Catholic background and period of religious hiatus in my life and history lead me to Orthodoxy. Your husband's Lutheran background and bad experiences with pastor-switching lead him to wherever his is now.
I know nothing about what you mean by "the piety of Mary".
Made up wordage for her undieing devotion, faith and love towards God.
They know Him. He knows them. They just aren't on speaking terms.But, it is certainly possible and probable and happens all of the time that people go to "churches" without knowing the Lord.
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Oh, I do not like rhetorical questions. They are not practical. Either there is an answer that is correct or there is not. I think it is a waste of time, effort and energy to worry about rhetorical questions.