Why.

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Why was St. James, the brother of The Lord, first Bishop of Jerusalem killed?

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[WarriorAngel]

Maybe because he was replaceable... ?
What position are you asking from?
From God's POV...or from man's?

Perhaps he was most easily caught...and maybe he had finished his work and had someone to replace him already...

Clarify the question, pretty please.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Sorry about that...

"Why did the Jewish people throw St. James from the top of the Temple."

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[Pistos Ergon]

Gravity check?
Show Jewish love for Christians?

 

[WarriorAngel]

O, well one would think they were crazed...and possibly possessed.
Why did they stone St Stephen to death?

I am sure St James went immediately into the hands of the Lord.

DO you have any writings or history on why...or the background of them doing this to him?

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Gravity check?

The stoned him after they threw him from the top of the Temple.

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[WarriorAngel]

Yikes, he must have survived the fall...ouch!

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

O, well one would think they were crazed...and possibly possessed.
Why did they stone St Stephen to death?

I am sure St James went immediately into the hands of the Lord.

DO you have any writings or history on why...or the background of them doing this to him?

The Catholic Church doesn't maintain the life of this Saint?

They were angry to be sure... but about what?

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[katherine2001]

Yikes, he must have survived the fall...ouch!

Actually, no he didn't. That is how St. James (the step brother of our Lord) was martyred. He was the first bishop of the Church of Jerusalem.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Sorry about that...

"Why did the Jewish people throw St. James from the top of the Temple."

Forgive me...

Did they mention which part of it? I mean, the Temple was a pretty big place from what I have heard with the Sanctuary being pretty tall itself inside of it.

Matthew 24:1 And having gone forth, Jesus departed from the Temple, and his Disciples came near to show him the buildings of the Temple

http://www.abu.nb.ca/Courses/NTIntro/InTest/JerTem.htm

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

October 23rd & December 31st
Troparion (Tone 4)
Let us extol James the Brother of the Lord and First Bishop of Jerusalem, for he hath radiated forth bravely in martyrdom. Wherefore, O Jesus our God, who was wrapped in swaddling clothes in a cave and manger, save through his petitions all those who praise thee.

James was a son of St. Joseph the Betrothed by a previous marriage. When Joseph was dying, he wanted to include Jesus as an heir, but Joseph's other sons opposed it, not considering Jesus to be a brother. James spoke up and said he would split his portion with Jesus, thus counting himself a true brother of the Lord. He kept chaste and lived on only bread and water. He was one of the 70. James became the first bishop in Jerusalem, where he served for about 30 years, presiding over the Council there. (Acts 15) He was instructed by the Lord to compose the first Liturgy, which was later shortened by St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom. He ruled with such wisdom that even unbelievers called him "James the Just". Ananias the High Priest determined to kill James. On Passover, when many people were in the city, the elders commanded James to climb up onto a roof and denounce Christ. St. James climbed up onto the roof and began to preach the gospel. The Jewish priests and elders threw him to the ground. He was badly injured, but alive. A man from the crowd ran up and hit him so hard in the head that his brains spilled out. Thus James entered into glory of the Kingdom of God.


Forgive me...

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

The Holy Apostle James,
the Lord's Brother
November 5 (October 23 old calendar).​

He is called 'the Lord's brother' because he was the son of righteous Joseph, the betrothed of the most holy Mother of God. When Joseph was dying, he shared out his goods among his sons and wanted to leave a share to the Lord Jesus, the Son of the most holy Virgin Mary, but his sons opposed this, not reckoning Jesus to be a brother of theirs. James, though, loved Jesus greatly and announced that he would include Him in his share, counting himself to be indeed brother to the Lord. James was, from the first, devoted to the Lord Jesus. According to tradition, he went to Egypt with the most holy Virgin and Joseph when Herod tried to kill the new-born King. As soon as he heard Christ's teaching, he began to live by it. It is said that, during the whole of his life, he ate neither fat nor oil, but lived only on bread and water, and he was chaste to the end of his days. He often kept a vigil of prayer at night. The Lord included him among his Seventy apostles, appearing to him after His glorious Resurrection, as the Apostle Paul testifies (I Cor. 15:7). He was bishop in Jerusalem for thirty years, and governed the Church of God with zeal. On the Lord's instructions, he composed the first Liturgy, which was far too long for later Christians and was shortened by St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom. He brought many Jews and Greeks to the Christian faith, and even unbelieving Jews marveled at his justice, nicknaming him James the Just.
When Ananias became High Priest, he decided, along with the other Jewish elders, to kill James as a preacher of Christ. One day, at Easter, when many people were gathered in Jerusalem, the elders told him to climb up onto a roof and speak against Christ. St. James climbed up there, and began to speak to the people about Christ as the Son of God and the true Messiah, and of His Resurrection and eternal glory in heaven. The infuriated priests and elders cast him down from the roof, and he was badly injured though still alive. A man then ran up and gave him such a vicious blow on the head that his brains spilled out. Thus this glorious apostle of Christ died a martyr's death and entered into the Kingdom of his Lord. James was sixty-three years old when he suffered for Christ.

Troparion, Tone 4
Thou hast received the Gospel as a disciple,/ thou art invincible as a martyr,/ and bold as the Lord's brother,/ thou dost intercede as a hierarch./ O righteous James, pray to Christ our God that He may save our souls.

Kontakion, Tone 4
God the Word, only-begotten of the Father,/ came to us in the last days./ He has made thee first shepherd and teacher of Jerusalem/ and a steward of spiritual mysteries./ we honor thee, O Apostle James.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

But what was it that had made the High Priest mad?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

But what was it that had made the High Priest mad?

Forgive me...

The same thing that made the High Priest mad at Jesus, TRUTH
I view the type of him in Luke 16 "being pained".

http://foru.ms/t4437955-lazarus-and-the-rich-man.html

Mark 14:53 And they led away the Jesus toward the Chief-priest, and are coming together to Him all the chief-priests, and the elders, and the scribes;

Luke 16:24 And he sounding said: "Father Abraham! be you merciful to-me! and send Lazarus!, that he should be dipping the tip of the finger of him of water, and should be cooling down the tongue of me,--that I am being pained/odunwmai <3600> (5743) in the flame, this."...................
29 Saying to him, Abraham: "They are having Moses and the Prophets: Let them hearken to them"!

 

[Uphill Battle]

October 23rd & December 31st
Troparion (Tone 4)
Let us extol James the Brother of the Lord and First Bishop of Jerusalem, for he hath radiated forth bravely in martyrdom. Wherefore, O Jesus our God, who was wrapped in swaddling clothes in a cave and manger, save through his petitions all those who praise thee.

James was a son of St. Joseph the Betrothed by a previous marriage. When Joseph was dying, he wanted to include Jesus as an heir, but Joseph's other sons opposed it, not considering Jesus to be a brother. James spoke up and said he would split his portion with Jesus, thus counting himself a true brother of the Lord. He kept chaste and lived on only bread and water. He was one of the 70. James became the first bishop in Jerusalem, where he served for about 30 years, presiding over the Council there. (Acts 15) He was instructed by the Lord to compose the first Liturgy, which was later shortened by St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom. He ruled with such wisdom that even unbelievers called him "James the Just". Ananias the High Priest determined to kill James. On Passover, when many people were in the city, the elders commanded James to climb up onto a roof and denounce Christ. St. James climbed up onto the roof and began to preach the gospel. The Jewish priests and elders threw him to the ground. He was badly injured, but alive. A man from the crowd ran up and hit him so hard in the head that his brains spilled out. Thus James entered into glory of the Kingdom of God.


Forgive me...

This has all the trappings of urban legend.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This has all the trappings of urban legend.

Me thinks that is how the Muslims got in the predicament they are in. Have you ever seen their own story on the "mary/mariam" of the NT?

Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

This has all the trappings of urban legend.

Except that it's The Church that has preserved it for you.

What motive do they have for lying about it?

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[OrthodoxyUSA]

Most all Christian at that time were Jews. The Jewish high Priest wanted the Jewish Liturgical worship left alone. IOW ~ If you want to be a Christian heretic, fine, take it somewhere else and leave Jewish worship out of it.

Why do you suppose they felt that way?

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[Uphill Battle]

Except that it's The Church that has preserved it for you.

What motive do they have for lying about it?

Forgive me...

who said anything about lying?

Like I said, it has all the trappings of an urban legend.

1) It's an interesting story.
2) It's independantly unverifiable.
3) the measure of "truth" of the story is those whom already believe it.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Christians were contorting the Jewish worship by including Christ as the "once for all" sacrafice. Making HIM the Paschal lamb. Saying that the content of the cup of communion was his body and blood.

They even had the Roman soldiers arrest many of them on charges of canabalism.

Roman soldiers kept such detailed records as to include the items taken when they took these people into custody.

Forgive me...