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rebel_conservative said:
as she left no living will, we simply do not know what Terri wants. all we know is what Michael Schiavo tells us she told him she wanted years ago when they were watching videos. if she was passionate about wanting to die, she would have told her parents her wishes. and lets not forget that Michael Schiavo has ulterior motives for wanting his wife to die

also, we do not actually know what condition Terri is in - as Michael Schiavo has prevented any tests from being carried out.

I passionately wish to avoid the trauma that has surrounded Terri Schiavo, so I am in the process of completing a living will and medical directives, which are very, very specific. My wife certainly knows my wishes, as do my daughters, but my parents, brothers, sisters, friends, etc. do not. I would not assume that Terri's parents would have had any clue at all about what she would have wanted done in this situation. Bottom line - if you really care, you better put it in writing (and make sure your lawyer and doctor have a copy).
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/extramarital_affairs/
The fact that the husband is allowed to live with another woman, have children by another woman and this woman is not capable of objecting and still be subject to being considered his wife is a type of justice that deserves disdain. IMHO.

Provide me with the exact law and the last time it has been enforced.
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
The fact that the husband is allowed to live with another woman, have children by another woman and this woman is not capable of objecting and still be subject to being considered his wife is a type of justice that deserves disdain. IMHO.
I guess I'd be a bit more disdainful if the parents of Terri Schiavo hadn't been the ones to encourage Micheal to date in the first place.

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mhatten said:
What you mean to say are not all moral laws are universal nor are they all laws but many are legal tenets.


It's common knowledge about adultery, the laws are mostly not enofrced however except in the military where it is grounds for discharge.

:wave: I know there is legislation to get rid of outdated laws including the adultery laws as well as the ******* laws. In Maryland for example it's a misdemoner with a punishment of a $10 fine. I wanted to know what the federal governments stand on this.
 
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ebonicsonly said:
Provide me with the exact law and the last time it has been enforced.
I believe you are not understanding that it is a civil law and not criminal law that is being referenced. The fact that Terri has become more valuable dead than alive and still has zero representation as to the husband's actions and motivations, but he still maintains authority despite his non-conformance to what normally would be rejected behavior is where the justice has failed.

You are free to look it up yourself; I have provided the link.
http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/searc...arital_affairs/
 
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Zaac said:
That which is dead does not grow.

Her body isn't growing. It is shriveling with age. Her mind isn't growing. It is gone, never to return. Her spirit resides only in those who loved her.

But again, I don't have a problem with the courts giving custody of her body to her parents, if they want to maintain it. Consider though if her body outlives her parents. What a horror it will be for her mother to know that perhaps know one will want to maintain that body right before her own death.

The whole thing is ugly for everyone involved. Ugly now and will continue to be ugly. Regardless of the outcome.
 
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HouseApe said:
But again, I don't have a problem with the courts giving custody of her body to her parents, if they want to maintain it.

They're sure not maintaining it on their own dime. Medicaid (whose budget Bill "culture of life" Frist recently voted to slash) and donations from pro-right-to-life law firms have provided the biggest chunk of money.
 
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Scally Cap said:
They're sure not maintaining it on their own dime. Medicaid (whose budget Bill "culture of life" Frist recently voted to slash) and donations from pro-right-to-life law firms have provided the biggest chunk of money.

I'm sure. I think it's wonderful how some who consider themselves "pro-life" are happy to spend hundreds of thousands of other peoples dollars to keep a dead womans body alive, but would never do the same when we are talking about somebody's sick kid. Odd world we live in. I'm a life-long Republican. And it's getting to be really embarassing to say that.
 
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Since people are dying all over our country under similar circumstances, although not with Terri's exact condition; I have been pondering the question of why God has allowed her case to become the subject of national debate. I do not have a good feeling about the videos being shown, as I feel that they are an invasion of her privacy. But once again, that is only my opinion and emotional reaction which has nothing to do with the reality of God's will which is the only thing that matters for Terri or for any of us. There is a purpose here and we will probably never fully understand in this life. I do know that God is in control and no one else.:clap:
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
I believe you are not understanding that it is a civil law and not criminal law that is being referenced. The fact that Terri has become more valuable dead than alive and still has zero representation as to the husband's actions and motivations, but he still maintains authority despite his non-conformance to what normally would be rejected behavior is where the justice has failed.

You are free to look it up yourself; I have provided the link.
http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/searc...arital_affairs/

What I mean by source is legaslation not an article defining the legislation. I did feel free to look up Florida legslation on people in her case.

According to Florida Stature 744.361

1) the guardian of an incapacitated person may exercise ONLY those rights that have been removed from the ward and delegated to the gaurdian.

Her gaurdian is her husband. He isn't going to give up his rights. Her parents tried to get a divorce on her behalf but that won't happen becuase the courts granted her husband guardianship years ago. She can be granted a divorce for his adultery if her gaurdian -her husband in this case- does so. He isn't going to do so and her parents have tried and failed. The Florida Statute 798.01. which forbids adultery is a part of the 798 statute which was passsed in 1964 ( see Mclaughin vs.state of florida) to keep blacks and whites from marrying. To enforce this law would also make it enforce to arrest a black man with a white women and vice versa.
 
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ebonicsonly said:
What I mean by source is legaslation not an article defining the legislation. I did feel free to look up Florida legslation on people in her case.

According to Florida Stature 744.361

1) the guardian of an incapacitated person may exercise ONLY those rights that have been removed from the ward and delegated to the gaurdian.

Her gaurdian is her husband. He isn't going to give up his rights. Her parents tried to get a divorce on her behalf but that won't happen becuase the courts granted her husband guardianship years ago. She can be granted a divorce for his adultery if her gaurdian -her husband in this case- does so. He isn't going to do so and her parents have tried and failed. The Florida Statute 798.01. which forbids adultery is a part of the 798 statute which was passsed in 1964 ( see Mclaughin vs.state of florida) to keep blacks and whites from marrying. To enforce this law would also make it enforce to arrest a black man with a white women and vice versa.
Again, I was not addressing a criminal law, I stated what I stated regarding a civil issue. Even before 'no fault divorce', adultery was grounds for violating the marriage contract.
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
Again, I was not addressing a criminal law, I stated what I stated regarding a civil issue. Even before 'no fault divorce', adultery was grounds for violating the marriage contract.

Yes,right with the sanity of domestic partnership laws which allowed husbands to beat their wives.:thumbsup: Adultery through out history even in America applied only when a women commited against her husband. You do realize when these laws were introduced as a CIVIL matter women had no rights?
 
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Zaac said:
What part of Germany are you in? I'll be in Frankfurt next week. Maybe I can drop off some food from the Varsity for ya. :)

I'm in Baumholder, about 160 km west of Frankfurt. If you need anyone to pick you up at the airport, write me an e mail baciu.costel@us.army.mil and I'll send you my phone number, we're taking leave for the next two weeks anyways, I have too many days, so I have to take leave... God Bless...
 
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