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Have we received the atonement for which he died? Are we now walking in the power of the operation of his atonement or not?
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Why You Don't 'Get' the Passover...
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HannibalFlavius
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Yes, yes.
He was the Passover lamb, the red heifer, the Pentecost sacrifices, the Yom Kippor sacrifices.
That was to atone for sin once and for all, but we still wait on the promises of those days.
Have the 144,000 received their seal on their forehead and been given an incorruptible body yet?
No.
But Rosh Hashanah will come, and those who will be sealed, will be sealed against the day.
What day?
And when judgment has come, those who have been sealed will rejoice in the Sukkot.
Has not happened yet.
Has everything in Revelation happened?
No.
Here is the feast of Tabernacles happening.
On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. 7 It will be a unique daya day known only to the Lordwith no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.
8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.
9 The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name.
10 The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up high from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses, and will remain in its place. 11 It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12 This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day people will be stricken by the Lord with great panic. They will seize each other by the hand and attack one another. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collectedgreat quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, they will have no rain. 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles.
20 On that day holy to the Lord will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lords house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar. 21 Every pot in Jerusalem and Judah will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots and cook in them. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite[c] in the house of the Lord Almighty.
What is this day? Sukkot?
10.Joel 3:13
Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, trample the grapes, for the winepress is full and the vats overflow so great is their wickedness!
8.Revelation 14:15
Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
What is this happening?
Could it be Sukkot?
9.Revelation 14:16
So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
Another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle.
11.Revelation 14:18
Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from the altar and called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, Take your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the earths vine, because its grapes are ripe.
12.Revelation 14:19
The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of Gods wrath.
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HannibalFlavius
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Do you want to be clothed in the coming feast of Tabernacles?
Awaiting the New Body
5 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
The Resurrection Body
35 But someone will ask, How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come? 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man.
Is this still to come? OF COURSE, and although Jesus was the sacrifices, we still WAIT on the promises.
If Paul speaks so much about these coming promises, where is the problem with knowing that they are still coming? So why do SOME of us , HOPE?
Because we were promised, so we hope in the fulfillments of the promises.
Believers Who Have Died
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lords word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Something from Eddie Chumney about the last great harvest of the world, the feast of Tabernacles for the future.
To the believer in Yeshua, our earthly physical body is only a temporary tabernacle. At the coming of Messiah, we will receive a new and heavenly house, a glorified body (1 Corinthians 15:39-44,51-57; 2 Corinthians 5:6; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18).
The Festival of Ingathering
Sukkot (Tabernacles) is the fall harvest festival. It begins on the fifteenth of the Hebrew month of Tishrei and concludes on the twenty-second with Shemini Atzeret/Simchat Torah, also called the eighth day, the rejoicing in the Torah. Shemini Atzeret functions as the conclusion of Sukkot, but it is also a separate festival (this will be discussed in the following chapter).
Like the other pilgrimage festivals, Sukkot [tabernacles] has an agricultural element. It marks the time of the harvest, the final ingathering of produce before the oncoming winter. Hence, it is also called Hag HaAsif, the festival of Ingathering. As it is written, "You shall celebrate the Festival of In-gathering, at the end of the year, when you gather in your labors out of the field" (Exodus [Shemot] 23:16).
Sukkot is the time when the produce of the field, orchard, and vineyard is gathered in. The granaries, threshing floors, and wine and olive presses are full to capacity. Weeks and months of toil and sweat put into the soil have finally been amply rewarded. The farmer feels happy and elated. No wonder Sukkot is "The Season of Rejoicing." While all of the three pilgrimages are times of rejoicing, Sukkot (Tabernacles) is specifically designated as Zeman simchatenu, the season of our rejoicing.
Awaiting the New Body
5 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
The Resurrection Body
35 But someone will ask, How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come? 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man.
Is this still to come? OF COURSE, and although Jesus was the sacrifices, we still WAIT on the promises.
If Paul speaks so much about these coming promises, where is the problem with knowing that they are still coming? So why do SOME of us , HOPE?
Because we were promised, so we hope in the fulfillments of the promises.
Believers Who Have Died
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lords word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Something from Eddie Chumney about the last great harvest of the world, the feast of Tabernacles for the future.
To the believer in Yeshua, our earthly physical body is only a temporary tabernacle. At the coming of Messiah, we will receive a new and heavenly house, a glorified body (1 Corinthians 15:39-44,51-57; 2 Corinthians 5:6; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18).
The Festival of Ingathering
Sukkot (Tabernacles) is the fall harvest festival. It begins on the fifteenth of the Hebrew month of Tishrei and concludes on the twenty-second with Shemini Atzeret/Simchat Torah, also called the eighth day, the rejoicing in the Torah. Shemini Atzeret functions as the conclusion of Sukkot, but it is also a separate festival (this will be discussed in the following chapter).
Like the other pilgrimage festivals, Sukkot [tabernacles] has an agricultural element. It marks the time of the harvest, the final ingathering of produce before the oncoming winter. Hence, it is also called Hag HaAsif, the festival of Ingathering. As it is written, "You shall celebrate the Festival of In-gathering, at the end of the year, when you gather in your labors out of the field" (Exodus [Shemot] 23:16).
Sukkot is the time when the produce of the field, orchard, and vineyard is gathered in. The granaries, threshing floors, and wine and olive presses are full to capacity. Weeks and months of toil and sweat put into the soil have finally been amply rewarded. The farmer feels happy and elated. No wonder Sukkot is "The Season of Rejoicing." While all of the three pilgrimages are times of rejoicing, Sukkot (Tabernacles) is specifically designated as Zeman simchatenu, the season of our rejoicing.
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You cannot kill a guy for Passover. It doesn't matter who he claimed to be. The Torah says lamb. Just thought I point it out.
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That's the test, isn't it? Who do you believe the Torah or others? Hence, no middle ground between Jews and Goyim.
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HannibalFlavius
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You Danny, I want you.
Numbers 3.
11 The Lord also said to Moses, 12 I have taken the Levites from among the Israelites in place of the first male offspring of every Israelite woman. The Levites are mine, 13 for all the firstborn are mine. When I struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, I set apart for myself every firstborn in Israel, whether human or animal. They are to be mine. I am the Lord.
God killed the first born of Egypt, and a lamb stood in place for the firstborn of Israel, But what did God design from this event?
He then set up the camp of Israel and Israel camped troop by troop, each man in his division and each under his standard.
The Levites, however, camped around the Tabernacle of the Pact, that wrath would not strike the Israelite community in their divisions.
The concept of Jesus being a Passover lamb is not a new concept, the priests stood in the place to redeem the first born, just as the first Passover did, God later designed the order of the Temple and its priests to symbolize,'' Passover lambs standing in place for the first born.''
If a first born of Israel does not have the name of a priest to stand in his stead, then he has to pay the Temple tax.
It is my sincere belief that all Israel stands like Levites right now, as a nation of Passover lambs, and every gentile is a first born who needs to stand alongside a Jew..
Just sayin.
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Passover lamb ... Lamb of God standing in place for the first born.... We are passed over because of Him.
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When God ordered the Israelites to prepare a lamb on the 10th of Nisan for Passover. They feared the vengeance of the Egyptians, because the lamb was the Egyptian deity.
According to one version, the Egyptians fainted when they saw the lamb tied to the foot of the bed in the houses of the Israelites (Pesikṭa Zuṭarti, Bo, xii. 6 [ed. Buber, p. 29a])
According to a second, they were paralyzed and could not prevent the lambs being sacrificed.
According to yet another, the first-born, learning on the 10th of Nisan that the lamb and the first-born, both regarded as deities by the Egyptians, were to be sacrificed, urged their parents to let the Israelites go and opposed the Egyptians for retarding the Exodus (Tos. to Shab. 87b, s.v. )
It is also said that the 10th of Nisan that year was a Sabbath (Seder 'Olam R. V.; Mek. p. 46b; Pesiḳ. R., ed. Friedmann, p. 78a).
Side thought to go along with this.... If the original Nisan 10th was a Sabbath, and then the year that Yeshua fulfilled it as the Lamb of God would also be Nisan 10th, a Sabbath....
10th of Nisan, Shabbat HaGadol
This is called the Shabbat HaGodol" because it is the great Shabbat. This is one of the rare instances where the date is set by the day of the week rather than the day of the month.
11th of Nisan, Sunday
During the time of temple services, this was the day when the Levites would lead the lambs from the fields to Jerusalem. One of these lambs would be chosen for the Passover Lamb. Mark 11:7-11 Yeshua was chosen by the people. They were waiting expectantly along side of the road for the big lamb parade to Jerusalem when Yeshua came on the colt. They sang the parade song for Him, threw down the palms, and declared Him to be the Son of David whom they had been waiting for. The time when the people chose Yeshua during His colt ride to Jerusalem. The same time that the Passover Lamb would have been chosen by the Levites for temple service.
12th of Nisan, Monday
Matthew 26:1-5 - The Plot against Yeshua
Mark 8:11 Yeshua forecasts His death and Resurrection
Mark 11:12-19 Yeshua curses the fig tree. Yeshua casts out the money changers out of the temple - During the time of the exodus, the lamb was taken into the dwellings for four days to be inspected for spot or blemish.
The Blemish Check is during the four days before the Passover Lamb is chosen and sacrificed http://www.christianforums.com/t7786452/
13th of Nisan, Tuesday
Third day of the inspection - Yeshua and the disciples pass by the fig tree that was dried up along side the road.
14th of Nisan, Wednesday
Ta'anit Bechorot .. Fast of the First Born is a unique fast day in Judaism. It falls on the day before Passover (14th Nisan) Only the firstborn are required to fast. It is said that when the Israelites found out about the death to all first born, the first born Israelites fasted til the Passover lamb was to be eaten.
Erev Pesach ... Last Supper - Fourth day Lamb is chosen (Mark 14:1) Even in the Labavitch rabbinical movement they gather together to conduct training lessons on the Passover. They call it "Moschiach's Supper". "Moschiach" means "anointed one". It refers to an ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. It is the Moschiach who will be the anointed one, the King of the Jews in the end days.
15th of Nisan, Thursday
Yeshua sacrificed and put into the grave before sunset, annual sabbath begins for the Feast of Unleavened Bread - First day in the grave
16th of Nisan, Friday Preparation Day
The women are able to go out between the two Sabbath and get the ointments for His burial body. - Second day in the grave
17th of Nisan, weekly Sabbath rest
Third day in the grave.
18th of Nisan, Sunday - First fruits - Wave Sheaf - Yeshua resurrects after weekly Sabbath is over - That morning the women find the grave is empty.
According to one version, the Egyptians fainted when they saw the lamb tied to the foot of the bed in the houses of the Israelites (Pesikṭa Zuṭarti, Bo, xii. 6 [ed. Buber, p. 29a])
According to a second, they were paralyzed and could not prevent the lambs being sacrificed.
According to yet another, the first-born, learning on the 10th of Nisan that the lamb and the first-born, both regarded as deities by the Egyptians, were to be sacrificed, urged their parents to let the Israelites go and opposed the Egyptians for retarding the Exodus (Tos. to Shab. 87b, s.v. )
It is also said that the 10th of Nisan that year was a Sabbath (Seder 'Olam R. V.; Mek. p. 46b; Pesiḳ. R., ed. Friedmann, p. 78a).
Side thought to go along with this.... If the original Nisan 10th was a Sabbath, and then the year that Yeshua fulfilled it as the Lamb of God would also be Nisan 10th, a Sabbath....
10th of Nisan, Shabbat HaGadol
This is called the Shabbat HaGodol" because it is the great Shabbat. This is one of the rare instances where the date is set by the day of the week rather than the day of the month.
11th of Nisan, Sunday
During the time of temple services, this was the day when the Levites would lead the lambs from the fields to Jerusalem. One of these lambs would be chosen for the Passover Lamb. Mark 11:7-11 Yeshua was chosen by the people. They were waiting expectantly along side of the road for the big lamb parade to Jerusalem when Yeshua came on the colt. They sang the parade song for Him, threw down the palms, and declared Him to be the Son of David whom they had been waiting for. The time when the people chose Yeshua during His colt ride to Jerusalem. The same time that the Passover Lamb would have been chosen by the Levites for temple service.
12th of Nisan, Monday
Matthew 26:1-5 - The Plot against Yeshua
Mark 8:11 Yeshua forecasts His death and Resurrection
Mark 11:12-19 Yeshua curses the fig tree. Yeshua casts out the money changers out of the temple - During the time of the exodus, the lamb was taken into the dwellings for four days to be inspected for spot or blemish.
The Blemish Check is during the four days before the Passover Lamb is chosen and sacrificed http://www.christianforums.com/t7786452/
13th of Nisan, Tuesday
Third day of the inspection - Yeshua and the disciples pass by the fig tree that was dried up along side the road.
14th of Nisan, Wednesday
Ta'anit Bechorot .. Fast of the First Born is a unique fast day in Judaism. It falls on the day before Passover (14th Nisan) Only the firstborn are required to fast. It is said that when the Israelites found out about the death to all first born, the first born Israelites fasted til the Passover lamb was to be eaten.
Erev Pesach ... Last Supper - Fourth day Lamb is chosen (Mark 14:1) Even in the Labavitch rabbinical movement they gather together to conduct training lessons on the Passover. They call it "Moschiach's Supper". "Moschiach" means "anointed one". It refers to an ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. It is the Moschiach who will be the anointed one, the King of the Jews in the end days.
15th of Nisan, Thursday
Yeshua sacrificed and put into the grave before sunset, annual sabbath begins for the Feast of Unleavened Bread - First day in the grave
16th of Nisan, Friday Preparation Day
The women are able to go out between the two Sabbath and get the ointments for His burial body. - Second day in the grave
17th of Nisan, weekly Sabbath rest
Third day in the grave.
18th of Nisan, Sunday - First fruits - Wave Sheaf - Yeshua resurrects after weekly Sabbath is over - That morning the women find the grave is empty.
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Have you received the passover promise of redemption? The people were redeemed to be taken into their promised inheritance. Has that happened for you yet?
See the above question? Has your passover of redemption from Slavery to go and enter into the promised inheritance happened yet? Are you there yet? How is it that you say passover has been fulfilled, yet not enter into the inheritance? But the atonement has not been fulfilled because you have not entered into your inheritance?
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I don't understand your question, but I would never say that Passover has been fulfilled and ended because I don't believe it to be ended.
I believe Passover will take place when our waters are divided and God will be in us.
But I don't understand your question.
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Let there be Light!
The concept of 'get(ting) ourselves back to the Garden', is one embraced by both Christianity and Judaism (not to mention Joni Mitchell or Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young). But have you ever considered by what means this 'return' was to occur? Would it surprise you to learn that it would be by legal means?
Yes Virginia, there really is a covenant with our Heavenly Father. It was your debt under the Law that was 'done away with', not the Law. Without the covenants with Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses, and without Messiah Y'shua, the keeper of covenants, there would be no return to the Garden of Eden. Paradise really would be lost to us.
Allow me a brief summary of the first article, A Passover Perspective; it links this concept of a return to Paradise, with the Covenants and with the Moedim. It reveals the consistency with which our loving Father reprimands those who break His covenant and restores them when they embrace sincere t'shuvah (turning back to Him and His Covenant). It shows the relationship between the curses spoken in the Garden over Adam and Havah (Eve) for breaking covenant, with the events of the first Passover where the first steps are taken toward the reversal of those curses.
This is the means by which His children will be able to be returned to the Garden of Eden. Our Messiah is also our mediator before the Throne of the Father; His ministry in part, is to bring His witness for our benefit. It is His purpose to intercede on our behalf and argue this case for redemption and return. If you haven't read the first article in this series, you should do so.
So what's with the title, 'Let there be Light'? We were following the analogy of a tapestry. The first of the golden threads or themes that binds all these concepts together are found in the 'Days of Creation'. Light is what was created on the 'first' day. The reason that first is in quotes is because we are looking at a number of 'firsts' and the themes that link them all.
What does scripture say about number 1 on our list, Light? It says that the instruction of the Father, thy Word (Torah), is a '...light unto my path and a lamp unto my feet.' It is a beacon unto the nations. There is a link between His Light and His knowledge, just as there is a link between the knowledge of Evil and Darkness. There is a separation between Light and Darkness, just as there is a separation between Good and Evil. But are there other characterizations of His knowledge that might help us better understand this theme of Light? Here are but a few:
So let's take a look at the 2nd item on our list; the covenant with Adam. We don't know a lot from scripture. But we know enough.
Basically, this covenant was that Adam would have dominion over everything in the Garden, just obey the Father and don't eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Why? Because it included the knowledge of Evil. Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge. The first couple were afraid. God said that if they ate of the tree they would die. But the Father did not kill them. Instead He instituted the precedent of atoning sacrifice by the blood of animals, to give the 1st couple skins to cover their nakedness and blood to cover their sin. For the wages of sin is death and there is life in the blood. But to insure His Word, the Father set them out from the garden and prevented them from eating of the tree of Life - for now.
So it seems that there is a prophetic link between three of our 'firsts' starting with the first Day of Creation. But there is one curious facet of this Covenant relationship with Adam that is not addressed. It is one that I would like to briefly touch on before we go on: the Covenant with the land. This is not something usually done, but there seems to have been an aspect of the agreement that was made with the land; one that was broken. One might presume that there is an agreement made with the entirety of Creation, but let me stick with this one aspect for now.
You will recall that the Father created the Garden, in the land. Judging from the text, conditions in the Garden were significantly different than those outside the garden, in the land. When Adam sinned, they were put out of the Garden into the land. Now let us consider a strange parallel. Many years later, the descendants of Israel had a covenant - with the Father and with the land. When the land did not get it's Sabbath rest in violation of covenant (among many other things), the children of Israel were put out of the land and were not allowed to return until the land had it's promised rest, again according to the terms of covenant. My question for your consideration is threefold;
Now let's move on to item 3 on our list; the first of the Moedim - the Passover. But I should mention that items 3, 4, and 5 are so interrelated that they will be covered together.
We have already covered the high points of the Passover in the first article. Here I am only drawing a link based on a theme between the items listed above. But there is one thing I would add to this overview:
I want you to take a very 'human' look at the process. The children of Israel had been instructed to take an unblemished, one year old baby lamb or goat into their home and let it live with them. This seems curiously similar to the adoption of a perfect little pet.
After they had bonded with this innocent little creature, they were to kill it, roast it, eat it and burn what they could not eat. They were to take it's blood and put it on the lentil and door posts of their dwelling, remain inside throughout the time of darkness, so that the Death Angel would pass over their house and not take their firstborn child. So don't think that this process wasn't painless or that it was an empty object lesson for these people. I think the substitution sacrifice was intended to make a point. The sacrifice had value far and above that of an impersonal sacrifice of property. I think the sacrifice was meant to be much more personal in nature, but I digress.
To Be Continued...
The concept of 'get(ting) ourselves back to the Garden', is one embraced by both Christianity and Judaism (not to mention Joni Mitchell or Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young). But have you ever considered by what means this 'return' was to occur? Would it surprise you to learn that it would be by legal means?
Yes Virginia, there really is a covenant with our Heavenly Father. It was your debt under the Law that was 'done away with', not the Law. Without the covenants with Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses, and without Messiah Y'shua, the keeper of covenants, there would be no return to the Garden of Eden. Paradise really would be lost to us.
Allow me a brief summary of the first article, A Passover Perspective; it links this concept of a return to Paradise, with the Covenants and with the Moedim. It reveals the consistency with which our loving Father reprimands those who break His covenant and restores them when they embrace sincere t'shuvah (turning back to Him and His Covenant). It shows the relationship between the curses spoken in the Garden over Adam and Havah (Eve) for breaking covenant, with the events of the first Passover where the first steps are taken toward the reversal of those curses.
This is the means by which His children will be able to be returned to the Garden of Eden. Our Messiah is also our mediator before the Throne of the Father; His ministry in part, is to bring His witness for our benefit. It is His purpose to intercede on our behalf and argue this case for redemption and return. If you haven't read the first article in this series, you should do so.
So what's with the title, 'Let there be Light'? We were following the analogy of a tapestry. The first of the golden threads or themes that binds all these concepts together are found in the 'Days of Creation'. Light is what was created on the 'first' day. The reason that first is in quotes is because we are looking at a number of 'firsts' and the themes that link them all.
- The first day of Creation, the day Light was separated from the Darkness.
- The first recipient of Covenant of His children on earth, Adam.
- The first of the moedim (appointed time), Passover.
- The first furnishing of the Mishkan (Temple), the Altar of Sacrifice.
- The first blood sacrifice, Messiah Y'shua, the paschal Lamb.
- The first Seal of the Revelation, the judgement for breaking covenant.
What does scripture say about number 1 on our list, Light? It says that the instruction of the Father, thy Word (Torah), is a '...light unto my path and a lamp unto my feet.' It is a beacon unto the nations. There is a link between His Light and His knowledge, just as there is a link between the knowledge of Evil and Darkness. There is a separation between Light and Darkness, just as there is a separation between Good and Evil. But are there other characterizations of His knowledge that might help us better understand this theme of Light? Here are but a few:
- Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
- Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
- Psa 34:11 Come, ye children, hearken unto me: I will teach you the fear of the LORD.
- Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
- Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
- Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
- Pro 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
- Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
- Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
- Pro 10:27 The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.
- Pro 14:26 In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.
- Pro 14:27 The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.
- Pro 15:16 Better is little with the fear of the LORD than great treasure and trouble therewith.
- Pro 15:33 The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
- Pro 16:6 By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.
- Pro 19:23 The fear of the LORD tendeth to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.
- Pro 22:4 By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.
- Pro 23:17 Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long.
- Isa 2:10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty.
So let's take a look at the 2nd item on our list; the covenant with Adam. We don't know a lot from scripture. But we know enough.
Genesis 2:15-17
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
15 Adonai, God, took the person and put him in the garden of ‘Eden to cultivate and care for it. 16 Adonai, God, gave the person this order: “You may freely eat from every tree in the garden 17 except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. You are not to eat from it, because on the day that you eat from it, it will become certain that you will die.”
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
15 Adonai, God, took the person and put him in the garden of ‘Eden to cultivate and care for it. 16 Adonai, God, gave the person this order: “You may freely eat from every tree in the garden 17 except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. You are not to eat from it, because on the day that you eat from it, it will become certain that you will die.”
Basically, this covenant was that Adam would have dominion over everything in the Garden, just obey the Father and don't eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Why? Because it included the knowledge of Evil. Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge. The first couple were afraid. God said that if they ate of the tree they would die. But the Father did not kill them. Instead He instituted the precedent of atoning sacrifice by the blood of animals, to give the 1st couple skins to cover their nakedness and blood to cover their sin. For the wages of sin is death and there is life in the blood. But to insure His Word, the Father set them out from the garden and prevented them from eating of the tree of Life - for now.
So it seems that there is a prophetic link between three of our 'firsts' starting with the first Day of Creation. But there is one curious facet of this Covenant relationship with Adam that is not addressed. It is one that I would like to briefly touch on before we go on: the Covenant with the land. This is not something usually done, but there seems to have been an aspect of the agreement that was made with the land; one that was broken. One might presume that there is an agreement made with the entirety of Creation, but let me stick with this one aspect for now.
You will recall that the Father created the Garden, in the land. Judging from the text, conditions in the Garden were significantly different than those outside the garden, in the land. When Adam sinned, they were put out of the Garden into the land. Now let us consider a strange parallel. Many years later, the descendants of Israel had a covenant - with the Father and with the land. When the land did not get it's Sabbath rest in violation of covenant (among many other things), the children of Israel were put out of the land and were not allowed to return until the land had it's promised rest, again according to the terms of covenant. My question for your consideration is threefold;
- Which covenant initiated the Sabbath rest?
- Is the land of Eden, the same land as Israel?
- Are these covenant provisions that are found in Torah, such as Sabbath rest, brought forward from the covenant of Adam?
Now let's move on to item 3 on our list; the first of the Moedim - the Passover. But I should mention that items 3, 4, and 5 are so interrelated that they will be covered together.
We have already covered the high points of the Passover in the first article. Here I am only drawing a link based on a theme between the items listed above. But there is one thing I would add to this overview:
Exo 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
Exo 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
Exo 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post (tree) of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
Exo 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
Exo 12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.
Exo 12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
Exo 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD'S passover.
Exo 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
Exo 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post (tree) of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
Exo 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
Exo 12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.
Exo 12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
Exo 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD'S passover.
I want you to take a very 'human' look at the process. The children of Israel had been instructed to take an unblemished, one year old baby lamb or goat into their home and let it live with them. This seems curiously similar to the adoption of a perfect little pet.
After they had bonded with this innocent little creature, they were to kill it, roast it, eat it and burn what they could not eat. They were to take it's blood and put it on the lentil and door posts of their dwelling, remain inside throughout the time of darkness, so that the Death Angel would pass over their house and not take their firstborn child. So don't think that this process wasn't painless or that it was an empty object lesson for these people. I think the substitution sacrifice was intended to make a point. The sacrifice had value far and above that of an impersonal sacrifice of property. I think the sacrifice was meant to be much more personal in nature, but I digress.
To Be Continued...
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Themes have attributes. They are the characteristics that define the theme. The attributes of:
I don't think it a leap to conclude that the Moedim are meant as a prophetic picture of the ministry of Messiah Y'shua. He is the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world. Messiah was the Lamb slain at the same time the Passover lambs were being slain in the Mishkan. But what else does scripture reveal about His prophetic fulfillment of these events?
The Spring Feasts
The Passover begins the week long observance of Unleavened Bread in remembrance of the events of the first Passover in Egypt. In that story, the children of Israel and all the nations that came out of Egypt with them, did not have time for their bread dough to rise, so they ate unleavened bread. But there is also a contrast drawn in scripture between pride and humility, respectively linking them to good and evil, darkness and light. The proud are describe as being 'puffed up', just as leaven puffs up bread dough. Messiah was described as not 'puffed up' because He humbling Himself, even unto death. Because He humbled Himself at the Passover sacrifice, because He died and was buried for Hag HaMatzah (Unleavened Bread), He is considered to have fulfilled the prophetic implications of that event.
During the Passover week, there is also a day called First Fruits (Yom HaBikkurim) in which a 'wave sheaf' offering is made. It is when the first fruits of the winter crops are waved before the heavens in thanksgiving to the Father for the harvest and as a means of asking permission to use them. It is recorded that Messiah Y'shua was resurrected on the day of First Fruits. It is also written that He is the first fruits of the (promised) resurrection.
So these three events ties Messiah to the moedim in a very symbolic and prophetic way. It ties the first three of the moedim together by the same token. It also brings us to the next item on our list, the first furnishing in the Mishkan, the Altar of Sacrifice, another one of those items related to the attributes of first covenant with the first Adam. So let's expand on the 4th and 5th items on our list:
The First Furnishing of the Mishkan
What sets the furnishings of the Mishkan apart from the Moedim is that the furnishings are a picture of what is required of us as believers, that we may draw close to God, just as the Moedim are a picture Messiah's ministry that we may be received. Messiah came as a man. As a man, He too brought His sacrifice. But as Messiah, He fulfilled the prophetic nature of the Passover. All this must be accomplished that He might go forth and assume the role of Priest and King.
The first furnishing as you enter the enclosure is the Altar of Sacrifice.
There is an interesting dynamic that is not often explored. There are intermediaries that are used in this process. There are priests that bring the sacrifices of the children of Israel before the Creator. But those that bring the sacrifices to the priests are called to be priests also. They are called to minister to those nation without a covenant relationship with the Creator. So in Torah, there are two levels of priesthood. But this dynamic has existed from the beginning. Each successive generation had a Prophet/Priest that interceded for the entire clan, until the time of Israel. But that is another story.
Without the Mishkan and the Altar of Sacrifice, we are called to a sacrifice of prayer, worship, praise and intercession. We are called to teach, pastor, feed, clothe, succor and comfort those in need. But all of this falls under the same heading. We are to sacrifice of ourselves for the sake of others, just as Messiah sacrificed of Himself for our sake. We are to die to self, that we might do unto others even as He did for us.
In the Hebraic mindset, knowing is a function of doing. Doing is a function of knowing. Within the context of the theme of Light, knowing is the first step to doing. But understanding is the second step. We must lift our eyes up from the ground and take in the greater context, in order to more fully understand the effect of our doings. However, His wisdom that He gives to those that would ask, is paramount to doing correctly. Wisdom is about making good choices. You may know. You may do. You may understand. But unless your choices reflects His wisdom, your doings are worthless. That is why we must sacrifice self in order to please Him or to serve others.
Linking Creation Themes To the Theme of Covenant
Now we can include the 6th item on our list. We have so far, thematically linked the first day of creation, to the first covenant, to the first moed - the Passover, to the first furnishing in the Mishkan - the Altar of Sacrifice. But what about the first Seal judgement of the Revelation? The key to understanding the Seal is that it is a judgement based on the first covenant with Adam. It is about obedience (as are all judgements) but in this case it is about the difference between Light and Darkness and Good and Evil.
This concept is brought forward to Torah and we can look to Torah and to Messiah to help us understand. We serve an orderly God and a loving Father. His dealing with Israel on this matter is consistent with His dealing with Adam - and the children of Adam. It is about knowing Good - and as Messiah taught, there is only One who is Good.
When the children of Israel turned to other gods, the Father turned them over to another king. When Adam's eyes were opened to the knowledge of Evil, he was separated from the garden and separated from a personal relationship with his King. This is what the first Seal judgement is about:
Written documents were understood in terms of scrolls. Covenants are contracts and they follow a specific format. The long and short of this explanation is simple. The contract is sealed and stored until it is violated. Then the Seal is broken and the remedy is read and applied.
Contracts have participating parties, terms and remedies when the terms are broken. The remedy here is clear. If you do not look to the Father or His Designate as your King, He will oblige you by turning you over to another King. If you do not choose to seek after Good, He will turn you over to Evil - until you see the error of your ways. But there comes a time when even His patience is exhausted.
Looking Forward
So now we have linked the first day of creation, to the first covenant, to the first moed - the Passover, to the first furnishing in the Mishkan - the Altar of Sacrifice and now, to the first Seal judgement. It all has to do with the blessings and curses given in the first covenant and the process of reversing those curses in order to bring us back to the Garden.
But if you will recall, we also linked the first three Moedim together. We can call them the Spring Feasts collectively. In my next post, I will show you the relationships of the first three days of Creation to the first three Moedim and the first three Covenants. We will also look at the thematic links to the first three furnishings in the Mishkan and how the first three Seal judgments are related to all of these things. We will also take a little closer look at the curses spoken in the Garden and see how all these things are related to the path back to the Garden.
Two new golden threads will be revealed. Two new themes will be discussed. So stay tuned for part 3 of 'A Passover Perspective', The Parting of the Waters and the Journey Home.
I pray that this blesses you as this Passover season approaches,
Phillip
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Themes have attributes. They are the characteristics that define the theme. The attributes of:
- Land,
- Blessings,
- Curses,
- Eating,
- Trees,
- Blood,
- Sacrifice
I don't think it a leap to conclude that the Moedim are meant as a prophetic picture of the ministry of Messiah Y'shua. He is the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world. Messiah was the Lamb slain at the same time the Passover lambs were being slain in the Mishkan. But what else does scripture reveal about His prophetic fulfillment of these events?
The Spring Feasts
The Passover begins the week long observance of Unleavened Bread in remembrance of the events of the first Passover in Egypt. In that story, the children of Israel and all the nations that came out of Egypt with them, did not have time for their bread dough to rise, so they ate unleavened bread. But there is also a contrast drawn in scripture between pride and humility, respectively linking them to good and evil, darkness and light. The proud are describe as being 'puffed up', just as leaven puffs up bread dough. Messiah was described as not 'puffed up' because He humbling Himself, even unto death. Because He humbled Himself at the Passover sacrifice, because He died and was buried for Hag HaMatzah (Unleavened Bread), He is considered to have fulfilled the prophetic implications of that event.
During the Passover week, there is also a day called First Fruits (Yom HaBikkurim) in which a 'wave sheaf' offering is made. It is when the first fruits of the winter crops are waved before the heavens in thanksgiving to the Father for the harvest and as a means of asking permission to use them. It is recorded that Messiah Y'shua was resurrected on the day of First Fruits. It is also written that He is the first fruits of the (promised) resurrection.
So these three events ties Messiah to the moedim in a very symbolic and prophetic way. It ties the first three of the moedim together by the same token. It also brings us to the next item on our list, the first furnishing in the Mishkan, the Altar of Sacrifice, another one of those items related to the attributes of first covenant with the first Adam. So let's expand on the 4th and 5th items on our list:
The First Furnishing of the Mishkan
What sets the furnishings of the Mishkan apart from the Moedim is that the furnishings are a picture of what is required of us as believers, that we may draw close to God, just as the Moedim are a picture Messiah's ministry that we may be received. Messiah came as a man. As a man, He too brought His sacrifice. But as Messiah, He fulfilled the prophetic nature of the Passover. All this must be accomplished that He might go forth and assume the role of Priest and King.
The first furnishing as you enter the enclosure is the Altar of Sacrifice.
Deuteronomy 16:16-17
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
16 Three times a year all your men are to appear in the presence of Adonai your God in the place which he will choose at the festival of matzah, at the festival of Shavuot and at the festival of Sukkot. They are not to show up before Adonai empty-handed,17 but every man is to give what he can, in accordance with the blessing Adonai your God has given you.
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
16 Three times a year all your men are to appear in the presence of Adonai your God in the place which he will choose at the festival of matzah, at the festival of Shavuot and at the festival of Sukkot. They are not to show up before Adonai empty-handed,17 but every man is to give what he can, in accordance with the blessing Adonai your God has given you.
There is an interesting dynamic that is not often explored. There are intermediaries that are used in this process. There are priests that bring the sacrifices of the children of Israel before the Creator. But those that bring the sacrifices to the priests are called to be priests also. They are called to minister to those nation without a covenant relationship with the Creator. So in Torah, there are two levels of priesthood. But this dynamic has existed from the beginning. Each successive generation had a Prophet/Priest that interceded for the entire clan, until the time of Israel. But that is another story.
Without the Mishkan and the Altar of Sacrifice, we are called to a sacrifice of prayer, worship, praise and intercession. We are called to teach, pastor, feed, clothe, succor and comfort those in need. But all of this falls under the same heading. We are to sacrifice of ourselves for the sake of others, just as Messiah sacrificed of Himself for our sake. We are to die to self, that we might do unto others even as He did for us.
In the Hebraic mindset, knowing is a function of doing. Doing is a function of knowing. Within the context of the theme of Light, knowing is the first step to doing. But understanding is the second step. We must lift our eyes up from the ground and take in the greater context, in order to more fully understand the effect of our doings. However, His wisdom that He gives to those that would ask, is paramount to doing correctly. Wisdom is about making good choices. You may know. You may do. You may understand. But unless your choices reflects His wisdom, your doings are worthless. That is why we must sacrifice self in order to please Him or to serve others.
Linking Creation Themes To the Theme of Covenant
Now we can include the 6th item on our list. We have so far, thematically linked the first day of creation, to the first covenant, to the first moed - the Passover, to the first furnishing in the Mishkan - the Altar of Sacrifice. But what about the first Seal judgement of the Revelation? The key to understanding the Seal is that it is a judgement based on the first covenant with Adam. It is about obedience (as are all judgements) but in this case it is about the difference between Light and Darkness and Good and Evil.
This concept is brought forward to Torah and we can look to Torah and to Messiah to help us understand. We serve an orderly God and a loving Father. His dealing with Israel on this matter is consistent with His dealing with Adam - and the children of Adam. It is about knowing Good - and as Messiah taught, there is only One who is Good.
When the children of Israel turned to other gods, the Father turned them over to another king. When Adam's eyes were opened to the knowledge of Evil, he was separated from the garden and separated from a personal relationship with his King. This is what the first Seal judgement is about:
Revelation 6:1-2
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
6 Next I watched as the Lamb broke the first of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living beings say in a thundering voice, Go! 2 I looked, and there in front of me was a white horse; its rider had a bow and was given a crown; and he rode off as a conqueror to conquer.
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
6 Next I watched as the Lamb broke the first of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living beings say in a thundering voice, Go! 2 I looked, and there in front of me was a white horse; its rider had a bow and was given a crown; and he rode off as a conqueror to conquer.
Written documents were understood in terms of scrolls. Covenants are contracts and they follow a specific format. The long and short of this explanation is simple. The contract is sealed and stored until it is violated. Then the Seal is broken and the remedy is read and applied.
Contracts have participating parties, terms and remedies when the terms are broken. The remedy here is clear. If you do not look to the Father or His Designate as your King, He will oblige you by turning you over to another King. If you do not choose to seek after Good, He will turn you over to Evil - until you see the error of your ways. But there comes a time when even His patience is exhausted.
Looking Forward
So now we have linked the first day of creation, to the first covenant, to the first moed - the Passover, to the first furnishing in the Mishkan - the Altar of Sacrifice and now, to the first Seal judgement. It all has to do with the blessings and curses given in the first covenant and the process of reversing those curses in order to bring us back to the Garden.
But if you will recall, we also linked the first three Moedim together. We can call them the Spring Feasts collectively. In my next post, I will show you the relationships of the first three days of Creation to the first three Moedim and the first three Covenants. We will also look at the thematic links to the first three furnishings in the Mishkan and how the first three Seal judgments are related to all of these things. We will also take a little closer look at the curses spoken in the Garden and see how all these things are related to the path back to the Garden.
Two new golden threads will be revealed. Two new themes will be discussed. So stay tuned for part 3 of 'A Passover Perspective', The Parting of the Waters and the Journey Home.
I pray that this blesses you as this Passover season approaches,
Phillip
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Shalom Y'all,
Well, since this is getting little interest, I guess it would be silly to continue posting the text. The next installment of the story, 'A Passover Perspective part 3' was published earlier today on my blog.
Chag Samech Pesach!
Well, since this is getting little interest, I guess it would be silly to continue posting the text. The next installment of the story, 'A Passover Perspective part 3' was published earlier today on my blog.
Chag Samech Pesach!
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I am seriously interested, I just haven't shown it much, but don't stop.
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