Again, that's not what the bible says. Genesis 3:4-7 directly contradicts your argument here, the serpent says eating the fruit will not kill them, and "your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Genesis 3:7 confirms what the serpent said to be true.
Wrong. God was not talking about immediate physical death. Genesis 3:7 said they knew they were naked, that is not knowledge of good and evil. Is the English in that verse not clear?
Furthermore, in Genesis 3:22 it says: And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
That directly shows the act of eating the fruit is what gives Adam and Eve these abilities. Eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil gives you knowledge of good and evil. Eating from the tree of life gives you eternal life.
Wrong again. Genesis 3:22 did not say Adam and Eve got knowledge of good and evil from the forbidden tree. It says Adam and Eve is become like God, to know good and evil (KJV). "To know" indicates a future tense, in other words, they are in the process of knowing. Therefore, they did NOT gain immediate and full knowledge from eating that forbidden fruit.
To make it clearer, look at the Hebrew word used for "know" in Genesis 3:5 and the Hebrew word used for know in Genesis 3:22
דְעֵ֖ (Genesis 3:5) - this is the "know" spoken by the serpent. It is often translated as know, knew, indicating a present or past tense.
לָדַ֖עַת (Genesis 3:22) - this is the "know" spoken by Yahweh. It is often translated as "to know", indicating a future tense.
Clearly, they are different in tense. The serpent spoke a lie.
P.S. As an interesting sidenote, Genesis 22 is one of the old holdover verses from the time the Jews were a polytheistic society. "The man has now become like one of us"... it's plural, denoting more than one god in a pantheon. This makes no sense if your god is the only god, but it did make sense in the time before Judaism evolved into a monotheistic religion.
God is singular in nature, but not in Persons. This has been the true and mysterious description of God since the time of Adam and Eve. It makes perfect sense if you consider how water exists in three states, but are of the same chemical makeup.
Here's an intro to the ancient Caananite religion, which eventually spawned Judaism (and included Yahweh as the god of Israel within the pantheon, however he was not the supreme god) Some books of the bible find their origins in this era of the religion, and there are some telltale signs within those books of their original basis.
Canaanite religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That is a distortion of the biblical account and description of Yahweh.
If you're willing to grant me the point that I can grasp concepts well, then perhaps you should listen to what I'm saying.
Unfortunately, you have failed to demonstrate that ability throughout the discussion. Whether it is because of denial or stubbornness or sheer pride, I do not know. But I have worked with INTJs before, I know they have that ability. Why am I not seeing it demonstrated here? Hmm.
1) If you are an omniscient being, that means you know everything.
2) Since you know everything, you know what choices people will make.
3) If you engineer the circumstances knowing in advance what choices people will make in a given situation, then their choice is inevitable based on how you set things in motion.
Therefore:
4) God must have known in advance that Adam and Eve would have eaten the fruit based on the design he created and the situation they found themselves in. It was inevitable, Adam and Eve could not have chosen any other way.
Yeah, you have presented that framework countless times, to which I already refuted countless times with the fact that
Adam and Eve was specifically instructed not to cause the Fall to happen by God Himself. Are you not willing to acknowledge this glaring fact, which is right in your face?
To say Adam and Eve had no choice but to cause the Fall when God specifically instructed them to do otherwise is pure absurdity.
What do you mean ask for help? I am talking about wicked people who rebel against God and harm society through their wickedness, with no intention of ever repenting.
