Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath? (2)

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Windmill

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Cliff2 said:
They are very strong words and if we were to say them as John said them we may get ourselves into trouble.

But we do not have to be afraid as it was John who said them under the power of the Holy Spirit.
Do you mean, get into trouble with our fellow peers or with God?
 
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Windmill said:
Do you mean, get into trouble with our fellow peers or with God?

Let's look at the verse in question

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Jo/1Jo002.html#4
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Jo/1Jo002.html#4
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Jo/1Jo002.html#4
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Jo/1Jo002.html#4

John is saying that if we claim to know Him (God) and do not keep His commandments we are a liar and we do not have the truth in us.

I do not believe that we will get into trouble from God for speaking the words that John spoke.

But our fellow human beings may not like to hear what John has said.
 
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Cliff2 said:
Let's look at the verse in question

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Jo/1Jo002.html#4

John is saying that if we claim to know Him (God) and do not keep His commandments we are a liar and we do not have the truth in us.

I do not believe that we will get into trouble from God for speaking the words that John spoke.

But our fellow human beings may not like to hear what John has said.

What you just described clearly portrays the state of Christianity in general here in the USA and Canada these days. High profession of spirituality (talk), without the walk to back it up. Do you find the same problem in Australia?
 
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Australia and New Zealand are in my opinion far worse, at least, as far as adventistism goes.

We're, along with Germany, considered the "rebel" part of the world.

But as far as general christianity goes- I can speak for NZ at least, that its rare to even find christians, we're a pretty atheist sort of a country. Then you'll find those who call themselves christians but only do so for when the cencus is called out.
 
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Windmill said:
Australia and New Zealand are in my opinion far worse, at least, as far as adventistism goes.

We're, along with Germany, considered the "rebel" part of the world.

But as far as general christianity goes- I can speak for NZ at least, that its rare to even find christians, we're a pretty atheist sort of a country. Then you'll find those who call themselves christians but only do so for when the cencus is called out.

So sad. It seems that the USA is moving towards a fundamentalist mindset as far as Christianity goes. Hence, the Ten Commandments Day proposed this coming Sunday in the US. The question is which day will they promote as the Sabbath?
 
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BrightCandle said:
So sad. It seems that the USA is moving towards a fundamentalist mindset as far as Christianity goes. Hence, the Ten Commandments Day proposed this coming Sunday in the US. The question is which day will they promote as the Sabbath?
I wasn't able to determine that from a quick glance at their web site--but I suspect it won't be the seventh day.:sigh:
 
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jochanaan said:
I wasn't able to determine that from a quick glance at their web site--but I suspect it won't be the seventh day.:sigh:

What is puzzling, is that an Orthodox Jew is one of the leaders of the movement. It seems that he has compromised stand on the Sabbath.
 
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