Why worry about global warming? (2)

[Chalnoth]

Gates admits that the purpose of his vaccine program is population control.

BillGates Admits Vaccination Population Control on CNN - coupmedia.org

And what is bad about population control?

 

[Greatcloud]

And what is bad about population control?

Nothing in fact it is important for the survival of all mankind. I however want 4 children.

 

[mzungu]

Nothing in fact it is important for the survival of all mankind. I however want 4 children.

I think you should ask them first if they want you

 

[dad]

You are condemning inanimate objects rather than the people who are responsible for misusing them. Science is not evil, it is the people who misuse it.

Ha. So do you claim that science was invented by something other than people!? If not, then you seal it's character. Thanks for that.

 

[dad]

The use of the two atom bombs on Japan saved 10 times more lives than they took. Look up operation Coronet and Olympic and the projected causalities.

I disagree.


Fire begets fire. The US sealed it's fate I figure. I am sick of people feigning just wars. I don't believe you. Evangelicals....careful...I am not in the mood for playing on this topic...

 

[mzungu]

Ha. So do you claim that science was invented by something other than people!? If not, then you seal it's character. Thanks for that.

Science was invented by the devil when he gave Eve the fruit of KNOWLEDGE to eat.

Anyone dismissing science and still uses a pc, the internet, car, telephone, etc. is basically acting in hypocrisy!

Science can take a hike!

 

[dad]

Science was invented by the devil when he gave Eve the fruit of KNOWLEDGE to eat.

God gave the fruit if I recall. Modern science was no where around. Really.

Anyone dismissing science and still uses a pc, the internet, car, telephone, etc. is basically acting in hypocrisy!

Science can take a hike!

Anyone claiming Adam used a pc internet or phone can take a hike.

 

[mzungu]

God gave the fruit if I recall. Modern science was no where around. Really.

God gave the fruit You are not aware that it was the serpent (devil) that enticed Eve to eat the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge! Genesis 3 (KJV)
3:1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?3:2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:3:3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 3:4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 3:5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 3:6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 3:7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.3:9And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?3:10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. 3:11And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? 3:12And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.3:13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.3:14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 3:16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.3:17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 3:19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. 3:20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:3:23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 3:24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Anyone claiming Adam used a pc internet or phone can take a hike.

No one is claiming such a thing. Science was born after man was cast down to earth and had to survive by using his new gotten knowledge from the fruit and thus ended up using science which was given to him by the devil!

 

[Greg1234]

Science was invented by the devil when he gave Eve the fruit of KNOWLEDGE to eat.

Anyone dismissing science and still uses a pc, the internet, car, telephone, etc. is basically acting in hypocrisy!

Science can take a hike!

Would it be hypocrisy for catapult builders to uphold atoms over macroscopic rocks?

 

[Jazer]

And what is bad about population control?

In China one of the "bad" things is they tend to prefer boys over girls. So that means they have a lot more boys then girls. This is a problem when they go to look for a wife. Esp sense they all want the educated city girls and not the uneducated village girls. Another problem with one child is you have all your eggs in one basket. You only have one child to take care of you in your old age. So they put a lot of pressure an that child to get ahead in life and to get a good education and a good job. Now we have a situation where we are losing so many of our jobs to China. Amerian High School students just do not take their education nearly as serious and so they tend to get left behind in the job market. The really good jobs are starting to go to the foreign students that tend to take their education a lot more serious. Of course for the girls in China no problem, it is easy to find a good husband. But for the old people that is a problem because the girls often take care of her husbands parents.

 

[Chalnoth]

In China one of the "bad" things is they tend to prefer boys over girls.

That would be a bad thing, period. That's not a bad thing about population control. That's a bad thing about Chinese culture in certain areas of China. India is also facing similar problems, where young girls are increasingly being forced to have sex change operations.

There's also the point to be made that China implemented a particularly draconian and unethical population control measure. A more sane one would merely focus on incentives and medical support instead of authoritarian limitations on the number of children.

 

[dad]

... That's not a bad thing about population control. ...

Those whos feel that way ought to control themselves.

 

[dad]

God gave the fruit You are not aware that it was the serpent (devil) that enticed Eve to eat the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge! Genesis 3 (KJV)

So? Who planted the tree? Look, man needed to learn to make choices. Sometimes that involves making the wrong one.

The old serpent was there, and had made wrong choices too.

Everywhere we hear the voices of good and evil....creation believing and evo philosophy here for example.

 

[Greatcloud]

So? Who planted the tree? Look, man needed to learn to make choices. Sometimes that involves making the wrong one.

The old serpent was there, and had made wrong choices too.

Everywhere we hear the voices of good and evil....creation believing and evo philosophy here for example.

Everyone was fooled and got kicked out of the garden including the serpent who was cursed.

It was only after God made Eve from Adams side that she tricked him into eating the fruit of the knowlege of good and evil.

God was the only one not fooled he was the only one still in charge. Mankind was however forgiven. It took Christ death on the cross however for that forgivness to become permenent.

 

[RickG]

Ha. So do you claim that science was invented by something other than people!? If not, then you seal it's character. Thanks for that.

I made no such claim. You have misrepresented what I have said.

I'm saying the physical world is neither good nor bad, it is what it is and that cannot be changed. What we learn about those physical properties is what we call science. If evil comes of science it is people who create that evil, not science.

 

[mzungu]

So? Who planted the tree? Look, man needed to learn to make choices. Sometimes that involves making the wrong one.

The old serpent was there, and had made wrong choices too.

Everywhere we hear the voices of good and evil....creation believing and evo philosophy here for example.

AH GOTCHA! So God purposely planted the tree (Landmine) as a trap! Hmmmm!!!! Makes sense to me! Thank you for clarifying this to me; Now it all makes sense because I could not understand why God who knew beforehand exactly the outcome of all his actions would allow the serpent to entice Eve.

All in the grand scheme of things!

 

[Greatcloud]

You said it yourself................God who knew beforehand exactly the outcome of all his actions.......... He knew he was going to send Jesus Christ to the cross to redeem all mankind.

 

[keith99]

That would be a bad thing, period. That's not a bad thing about population control. That's a bad thing about Chinese culture in certain areas of China. India is also facing similar problems, where young girls are increasingly being forced to have sex change operations.

There's also the point to be made that China implemented a particularly draconian and unethical population control measure. A more sane one would merely focus on incentives and medical support instead of authoritarian limitations on the number of children.

Bolding mine.

Source? This seems doubtful unless fraud is involved as sex change operations do not result in a fertile male and the issue is continuing the family which is traced through the male line. Infertile means all traces die, a bit worse than the name dies.

 

[Chalnoth]

Bolding mine.

Source? This seems doubtful unless fraud is involved as sex change operations do not result in a fertile male and the issue is continuing the family which is traced through the male line. Infertile means all traces die, a bit worse than the name dies.

See here for the horrifying news report:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ans-pay-surgeons-to-turn-girls-into-boys.html

 

[Greatcloud]

See here for the horrifying news report:
Indians pay surgeons to turn girls into boys - Telegraph

Its all about a blessed buck isn't it.