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Why Won't God Take Me Back?

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I'm a backslider & have been one for over a month now and I really miss God. I've come to Him what seems like 100 times in honest confession, truly willing to let Him take over, only to go back to what I was doing, walking after desires of the flesh. I hate it, I tell God I don't want to live that way anymore but it seems like nothing happens. No help, no change, nothing... When I was a Christian, somehow the Devil got in my mind one day & I came out of it with an extreme legalistic approach to the faith that I know is wrong but I CANNOT shake it off. I can't stop trying to just follow rules, & it's a huge part of why I backslid in the first place.. I'm in the exact same situation that I was in before I was ever saved... I keep asking God to free me & help me but nothing happens.. I'm starting to think that He doesn't want to take me back because this isn't the first time I've backslid.. I'm confessing, I'm coming to Him with a willful attitude to let Him change me... What am I missing?
 

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Mandi -

despite the fact G-d showed me many things at that time, I wish I had heard this
when I was 20. It may just be the best thing I've ever heard in 25 years of following Jesus!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7474551/

Please listen to both links in that thread.

Other than that, the ONLY way we can lose is if we QUIT. The mere fact that you care about this AT ALL is evidence of G-d working in your life, and in your heart.

I won't pretend to be able to determine this through a computer screen, but I urge you to bring this before the Lord: "The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise." Psalm 51:17

That whole Psalm would be an excellent prayer resource or "pattern" for you right about now ...
 
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I'm a backslider & have been one for over a month now and I really miss God. I've come to Him what seems like 100 times in honest confession, truly willing to let Him take over, only to go back to what I was doing, walking after desires of the flesh. I hate it, I tell God I don't want to live that way anymore but it seems like nothing happens. No help, no change, nothing... When I was a Christian, somehow the Devil got in my mind one day & I came out of it with an extreme legalistic approach to the faith that I know is wrong but I CANNOT shake it off. I can't stop trying to just follow rules, & it's a huge part of why I backslid in the first place.. I'm in the exact same situation that I was in before I was ever saved... I keep asking God to free me & help me but nothing happens.. I'm starting to think that He doesn't want to take me back because this isn't the first time I've backslid.. I'm confessing, I'm coming to Him with a willful attitude to let Him change me... What am I missing?

Hey

God's love for you will never grow cold. Don't beat yourself up because you can't manage to be "perfect". None of us can really accomplish that by ourselves - that's the very reason we need His help. Focus on what you can do, focus on your strong points - those that you can use to be a blessing to others. In the meantime, the Lord will gently mould and shape you according to His purpose. It's much better that way. :amen:

Kind regards
Andre
 
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I'm a backslider & have been one for over a month now and I really miss God. I've come to Him what seems like 100 times in honest confession, truly willing to let Him take over, only to go back to what I was doing, walking after desires of the flesh. I hate it, I tell God I don't want to live that way anymore but it seems like nothing happens. No help, no change, nothing... When I was a Christian, somehow the Devil got in my mind one day & I came out of it with an extreme legalistic approach to the faith that I know is wrong but I CANNOT shake it off. I can't stop trying to just follow rules, & it's a huge part of why I backslid in the first place.. I'm in the exact same situation that I was in before I was ever saved... I keep asking God to free me & help me but nothing happens.. I'm starting to think that He doesn't want to take me back because this isn't the first time I've backslid.. I'm confessing, I'm coming to Him with a willful attitude to let Him change me... What am I missing?
There aren't really many details in this post, so I don't really know where to go with this. Really all that has been said is that you have drifted, and you want to get back into an open and loving relationship with God but for some reason you aren't able to and you want to know why.

What is the situation here? As Ebia says, what is your Christian community like? Family, friends, church etc?
 
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At times when I have felt like God was ignoring my plea to come nearer I found this prayer to be helpful. It helps remind me of my place in God's plan and that it is His decision what to do with me, not mine.


Covenant Prayer
From John Wesley's Covenant Service , 1780

I am no longer my own, but thine.
Put me to what thou wilt, rank me with whom thou wilt.
Put me to doing, put me to suffering.
Let me be employed by thee or laid aside for thee,
exalted for thee or brought low for thee.
Let me be full, let me be empty.
Let me have all things, let me have nothing.
I freely and heartily yield all things
to thy pleasure and disposal.
And now, O glorious and blessed God,
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,
thou art mine, and I am thine. So be it.
And the covenant which I have made on earth,
let it be ratified in heaven. Amen.
 
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There aren't really many details in this post, so I don't really know where to go with this. Really all that has been said is that you have drifted, and you want to get back into an open and loving relationship with God but for some reason you aren't able to and you want to know why.

What is the situation here? As Ebia says, what is your Christian community like? Family, friends, church etc?

My Situation is this..
My Legalistic View started shortly after coming to the Lord. I was a smoker trying to quit when someone approached me & told me that the Holy Spirit can't dwell in a body polluted with evil (referring to my nicotine addiction).. When he said that something in my brain switched & everything spiraled downwards cause I started to feel that God would reject me if I didn't quit smoking. So for months I struggled & suffered trying to prove myself worthy but feeling like a failure cause I couldn't quit smoking no matter what I did. The Lord delivered me in March, but the Legalistic approach stuck with me

My Christian Community really isn't there.. I live with 3 people & I'm the only Christian in my house. 2 people in my house are typical American Christians (believe in God but don't worship, believe in the Bible but don't read it) & the 3rd in my house was a typical American Christian until my grandad passed on Easter Sunday last year & now she's an atheist. I was baptized & attend a good Bible believing Church that God led me too after praying for one, its a good 25 minute drive & since backsliding I haven't been attending. And my friends really aren't very Christian.. I'm kind of isolated
 
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I'm a backslider & have been one for over a month now and I really miss God. I've come to Him what seems like 100 times in honest confession, truly willing to let Him take over, only to go back to what I was doing, walking after desires of the flesh. I hate it, I tell God I don't want to live that way anymore but it seems like nothing happens. No help, no change, nothing... When I was a Christian, somehow the Devil got in my mind one day & I came out of it with an extreme legalistic approach to the faith that I know is wrong but I CANNOT shake it off. I can't stop trying to just follow rules, & it's a huge part of why I backslid in the first place.. I'm in the exact same situation that I was in before I was ever saved...
This sounds alot like Romans 7

Paul to struggled with sin and the Law, but in Romans 7 he tells us how he over came this adversity.

I keep asking God to free me & help me but nothing happens.. I'm starting to think that He doesn't want to take me back because this isn't the first time I've backslid.. I'm confessing, I'm coming to Him with a willful attitude to let Him change me... What am I missing?

Perhaps the freedom you seek is just not packaged in the way you are looking for it. The word back sliden means at one point you believe your actions warranted your salvation, and now because of your more recent actions you no longer deserve salvation. And upon "proper repentance" you are entitled to what you think is owed to you.. Maybe stop seeking the God and forgiveness that you want, and ask Him to make you content with the God and forgiveness that you are receiving. No matter what that looks like.

Did Paul in Romans 7 lament and grieve his sinfully nature? No, He owned what was his and push on. casting away the side of him that was reserved for sin and embraced the side that loved God. Paul knew he was not perfect and he knew that he would never be able to earn his righteousness. When he said he was chief amongest sinners this was not a righteous man's boast, but a convicted man's confession.

In order for you to move past this trial you must let go your idea of Christianity and allow God to forge his idea of it in your life.
 
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Hey Mandi -

isn't drich great? You've got a lot of angles to pursue just from this thread. Please don't see any of it as conflict, just go with what 'clicks' with you first but then post your thoughts in response.

Your case is a classic way well-meaning Christians mess G-d's plan all up, referring to that person that laid the guilt trip on you about cigarettes. Please notice that didn't stop G-d from delivering you from it, and praise Him for that! Have you tried earnestly praying for the person that put that stumbling block in your path? Please do. It's serious business:

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Mt 18:6

Mandi, we're His "little ones." You're His 'little one.' If you intercede for forgiveness on behalf of the person that threw you off the path, there's good precedent for a big turnaround in your own life. Some guy named Job did that
... :hug:
 
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Maybe the fact that you think you are backsliding doesn't help.

I dunno but maybe if you accept that you are sinned yet forgiven and loved by God it will bring you closer to God and so you would stop sinned then.

I would say it is mostly about the heart and if you want to stop sinned because it is 'the law' it becomes a cold religion of following rules. On the other hand you could do what is right because you want to have a life or more meaning and purpose that the old life and to stop self-destructing ways. Do what it right because it will make the world better and your life better.

I dunno if that helps at al, but I guess you need to consider why you want to do what you do and is there a better reason?
 
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When you mentioned smoking and a fellow Christian's reaction to it, you took me back 40 years to when I was in a church with similar views. They had given lipservice to saying that we are saved by God's grace, only to insert their own laws and regulations as 'yardsticks' as to the genuineness of the members' belief.

But this is not supported by Scripture. It is very clear, to the point of being blunt, as to where our salvation lies, and it's not with us or any act we do, or refrain from doing:

Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law: "The man who does these things will live by them." But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' " (that is, to bring Christ down) "or 'Who will descend into the deep?' " (That is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile - the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

So long as you have done this, your salvation is assured. If it depended on our own work none of us would be saved. But our salvation has been earned for us by God himself. That's why we can have confidence in it, irregardless of any 'roadblocks' others might try to put in our way. What we do in our daily lives from then on is to be seen by us not as 'icing on the cake', but rather as our way of saying, "Thank you," to God.
 
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My Situation is this..
My Legalistic View started shortly after coming to the Lord. I was a smoker trying to quit when someone approached me & told me that the Holy Spirit can't dwell in a body polluted with evil (referring to my nicotine addiction).. When he said that something in my brain switched & everything spiraled downwards cause I started to feel that God would reject me if I didn't quit smoking. So for months I struggled & suffered trying to prove myself worthy but feeling like a failure cause I couldn't quit smoking no matter what I did. The Lord delivered me in March, but the Legalistic approach stuck with me
Ok so I think that's pretty important. For some reason what this person has said has stuck with you and your 'Godliness' is now directly associated with it, and since you can't shake it, you are feeling abandoned. So, I think there are a couple of things here. First up, I think you've accepted a false premise, in that God cannot be in a body that is evil. If that were actually true, we are all pretty much up a creek without a paddle. Think about that one for a second. We are all sinful, right? I doubt anyone would assert we are perfect, pure and holy. Jesus recognized this when He washed the disciples feet, He told them that even though they are saved - pure, clean and holy - they are still in the world, and as such they pick up dirt and need to clean it off. Biblically nowhere does it say that God flees our body if we sin. There are rules about our bodies, that we should not deface them, we should not align them with prostitutes and so on. Those commands are precisely the same as others saying not to steal, not to do murder and so on. Nowhere does it say, that if we do sin, that God flees us. In fact, it says the exact opposite:

Hebrews 13:5 is talking about living a good Christian life, and God says:
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
"Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.


It goes on to say, and I'm paraphrasing now, that why should we fear what any man can do to us, because God has our back.

So it's really my thoughts at this point that this person, perhaps unwittingly, has planted a fairly insidious seed, and it's causing you to spiral around in despair which is turning to self-loathing as you feel you aren't good enough for God, and He has abandoned you. Nicotine addiction is an incredibly difficult habit to overcome, certainly not something you can flick a switch off on, and have go away without further incident. The Bible doesn't say that God will abandon you if you sin, it says you shouldn't sin, you should lie with prostitutes, or do murder, or thieve. BUT, it says that even if you do do these things, God will still be there, because He will never forsake you. That is the power of true love, true Biblical (agape) love - which is a love through recognition of value. It's not relative, ie - it doesn't change if you do something wrong - that by all accounts is how most humans love. To summarize this part, I think you feeling God doesn't want you back and you aren't good enough because you smoke is all a construct of your own making with help from some pretty unbiblical advice.

My Christian Community really isn't there.. I live with 3 people & I'm the only Christian in my house. 2 people in my house are typical American Christians (believe in God but don't worship, believe in the Bible but don't read it) & the 3rd in my house was a typical American Christian until my grandad passed on Easter Sunday last year & now she's an atheist. I was baptized & attend a good Bible believing Church that God led me too after praying for one, its a good 25 minute drive & since backsliding I haven't been attending. And my friends really aren't very Christian.. I'm kind of isolated
Well some of this is out of your control, but there are obvious parts that you have control over. This has obviously affected you quite strongly, so you have stopped going to church, potentially due to not feeling worthy or good enough to go and your church being just far enough away to be a decent journey there and perhaps also hindering a desire to go. Your friends you can't change unfortunately, but you can go to church. Another thing is that you can try to stop smoking too, I'm not sure what methods you've tried before, but something that is really horrible about nicotine addiction is that it's a twofold addiction - it's a habitual addiction, and a chemical addiction. Often the chemical addiction is easier to break, than the habitual one. I would strongly suggest staying away from any perceived miracle-cure things, like "Stop smoking in 1-hour." etc, as they have a huge failure rate and will only leave you feeling horrible when you start smoking again an 1 and 1/2 hours later. ;) Try something longer term, like Smokenders or approach your health council and see if they can offer you some advice and point you towards a similar program that tackles both the habit and the chemical addictions.

Lastly, I know you feel a strong conviction about smoking and that comes directly from God. The Holy Spirit is what convicts and compels us to change our ways. Our built-in morality and ethics from God also works with the Spirit to lead and teach us. God doesn't want us to do certain things, but He will 'never forsake' us if we do, do them. That is not His way, if He did leave us, we would perish. So have confidence and faith (trust) in God. Take action for yourself, and change the things you can such as attending church and trying a long-term smoking prevention course because by doing so, you are showing a willingness to draw near to God, and in doing that, God will draw near to you.

James 4:8 "Draw near to God and he will draw near to you."

Hope that helps :>
 
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I'm a backslider & have been one for over a month now and I really miss God. I've come to Him what seems like 100 times in honest confession, truly willing to let Him take over, only to go back to what I was doing, walking after desires of the flesh. I hate it, I tell God I don't want to live that way anymore but it seems like nothing happens. No help, no change, nothing... When I was a Christian, somehow the Devil got in my mind one day & I came out of it with an extreme legalistic approach to the faith that I know is wrong but I CANNOT shake it off. I can't stop trying to just follow rules, & it's a huge part of why I backslid in the first place.. I'm in the exact same situation that I was in before I was ever saved... I keep asking God to free me & help me but nothing happens.. I'm starting to think that He doesn't want to take me back because this isn't the first time I've backslid.. I'm confessing, I'm coming to Him with a willful attitude to let Him change me... What am I missing?
Friend, it isn't that God won't take you back, the problem is that you are not leaving your sin at the altar. You're picking it up and walking away with it in your heart. The very moment that you determine to change your life, and mean it, you'll discover that God never turned away from you but that you were not turning back to Him.

Repentance requires action from you!
 
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Remember the prodical son? His father welcomed him back with open arms.

Rules? Salvation is a gift from God-good works is a byproduct of saving faith. Good works alone won't save anyone without faith.

Do you have the holy spirit? He will give you the power to live a christian life. Human effort alone can't do this. Pray and you will get it.

Feel free to email me.

Also an other blogger had some great advice which is - starting tomorrow when you get out of bed, get yourself a pad and pen, and every time you sin, confess it to the Lord then write it down on the pad. Then after you have done this all day, the next day continue to write them down but this time, try not to do the same ones as you have written down on the pad, and become aware of them to the point, that you begin to resist doing them to the point that you over come the easiest of them first, then work on the harder ones as you get to them.This will work, if you are willing and have a strong desire to repent and cut down or even get rid of your sins that you do over and over willingly and knowingly every day.Just like someone who drinks to much, it is an everyday thing, but if they want to enough, they can stop drinking and many stop completely.So it can be done. I have seen it done.
 
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I'm a backslider & have been one for over a month now and I really miss God. I've come to Him what seems like 100 times in honest confession, truly willing to let Him take over, only to go back to what I was doing, walking after desires of the flesh. I hate it, I tell God I don't want to live that way anymore but it seems like nothing happens. No help, no change, nothing... When I was a Christian, somehow the Devil got in my mind one day & I came out of it with an extreme legalistic approach to the faith that I know is wrong but I CANNOT shake it off. I can't stop trying to just follow rules, & it's a huge part of why I backslid in the first place.. I'm in the exact same situation that I was in before I was ever saved... I keep asking God to free me & help me but nothing happens.. I'm starting to think that He doesn't want to take me back because this isn't the first time I've backslid.. I'm confessing, I'm coming to Him with a willful attitude to let Him change me... What am I missing?

Perhaps you need to DO something, instead of just waiting for a change to happen all by itself.

Focus on love though, instead of on obeying the rules. Focus on finding the heart of God. Focus on falling in love with God. If I were you, I would go on the internet and find books and things on "intimacy with God" (that's how I started my journey anyways) and when some of those things "spoke to my heart" I did them and that's how I came to be in a relationship with God.

I also have MADE A DECISION to study the Bible IN ORDER to find the heart of God. Not for any other reason, especially legalistic one.

In one of the books on God, I read that the person has been constantly talking to God in his thoughts and that helped Him to dwell in God's presence almost most of his life. Although I didn't think that I could go that far: to think of God 99% of my day, I decided that I will at least do what I CAN DO. I started to find things about God that I could, and think of Him and actually TELL Him what I thought of Him and stuff like that.

Then I fell in love.

Then I sacrificed something for His sake (it was my path and my desire). I put everything behind just to find Him.

Then He revealed Himself to me and started talking back to me.

THEN, he started changing my life. The change happens AFTER a relationship, not before.

I hope anything helps from what I said...
 
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