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Why witchraft has no place in Christianity

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When one becomes Christian, they are accepting their good nature.

Many use 'magick' or 'witchcraft' to solve their spiritual problems. In Christianity, these arts are no longer needed, because in Christ, our magic is perfect.

All powers come from God, even the Devil's.

A Christian's power comes directly from the source, there is no middle man. So no need to bribe demons in to taking away the problems they put there for you.

It's a clever tactic really, Satan wants your spiritual essence, so it puts problems in your path so that you can pay it with little chunks of your soul, to take them away.

Spell casters and sorcerers will find that their magic becomes PERFECT when they accept the Christ, why? because they won't have use it! it just works no hassle.

Well, that's my little thought for today.

Blessings brothers and sisters.
 

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Magic is real? This sounds rather close to fiction.

Even if Christians believe in demon interaction, I think they'd be better off not calling it magic.

Pagan rituals involving spiritual manipulation is commonly called 'magick'.

Actually, you're right. Christians shouldn't call their spirituality magic, because it just works. No need for crazy rituals to take care of spiritual problems. Simply observe the problem and then defeat it.
 
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Discussing whether or not witchcraft has any place in Christianity seems little different to arguing over how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.

When we think about the trinity, we see it covers just about anything. God can manifest anything we wills.

Spellwork seems silly when the ONE is always trying to help us along.

One must be observant though, and seek to know the creator.

Some want him as teacher, most unfortunately don't. Some messages are obvious, some hard to read.

It gets better and better, the more gospel you seek.

Call back when you have your next thought tomorrow.

My next thought: ;)

What seems supernatural or 'magical' about God's bigger 'miracles' may be more realistic than we like to think?

As we develop better technology, we gain more and more control over things.

God as creator knows exactly how the world works because he made it! We can only continue to learn.

But as we develop we can do more things that would be considered 'miracles' or spellwork years ago.

Again we need to let God be our teacher. Our technology should glorify him and not be insulting.

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Blessings.
 
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Many use 'magick' or 'witchcraft' to solve their spiritual problems. In Christianity, these arts are no longer needed, because in Christ, our magic is perfect.

So some magic rituals--like being sprinkled or immersed in water while prayers are recited--or consuming Christ's body and blood by eating a cracker and swallowing a sip of wine--are "perfect." But others are not. :confused:
 
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Pagan rituals involving spiritual manipulation is commonly called 'magick'.

I don't think there is any spiritual manipulation there.

Actually, you're right. Christians shouldn't call their spirituality magic, because it just works. No need for crazy rituals to take care of spiritual problems. Simply observe the problem and then defeat it.

Well not calling it magic does make your beliefs seem better. :D
 
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So some magic rituals--like being sprinkled or immersed in water while prayers are recited--or consuming Christ's body and blood by eating a cracker and swallowing a sip of wine--are "perfect." But others are not.

Baptism is a public announcement that one has chosen the path.
Prayers are daily acknowledgements of the lord.
Through pursuit of the way we consume the body and blood of Christ. - The cracker and wine are symbolic of this.

What about that one mass prayer in a sports stadium during a draught, praying for rain?

Was that witchcraft? It didn't work.

Yes that was witchcraft. I often say: 'black magic always backfires'.

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Blessings friends, and continue walking the path safely and observant. :)
 
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So, for a real christian, all works dandy if god wills it, right?

And for someone who practices witchcraft, all works dandy if the devil wills it.

So I guess you have to hedge your bets and see who is more likely to assist you, right?
 
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I don't think many Christians in 2014 believe in witchcraft or think much of it. Sure, some do. Most don't. I don't care. I don't get all those fundamentalists who think Harry Potter is witchcraft. That's just silly.

Harry Potter is certainly an interesting work, but I don't get all the hype.

So, for a real christian, all works dandy if god wills it, right?

And for someone who practices witchcraft, all works dandy if the devil wills it.

So I guess you have to hedge your bets and see who is more likely to assist you, right?

True, BUT there is a spiritual lesson we can learn from anything that happens. If we are to learn an important lesson, sometimes the problem won't go away until we learn it.

Devil worship makes no sense to me. Why would anyone want to willingly serve their spiritual enemy? - Satan means adversary in the Hebrew tongue.

So we can give away our life to the enemy, or we can receive life from our creator.

The path to the creator requires more work and study, but I have found it pays off much more than the self-destructive path.

This is my experience anyway.

Blessings.
 
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Devil worship makes no sense to me. Why would anyone want to willingly serve their spiritual enemy? - Satan means adversary in the Hebrew tongue.

Maybe God is the bad guy, and Satan is fighting against tyranny. :D

(I don't actually believe that).
 
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Still does not make sense. A spirit named 'the enemy' being seen as better than creator.

Blessings, and keep on seeking!

Who called him 'the enemy'? His enemy. You can't define someone as bad just because someone called them the enemy. Imagine if the Axis forces had a nickname for the Allies that translated as the enemy. Would that make the Allies the enemies of the world?

You can't necessarily base your moral judgement on titles and names.
 
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When one becomes Christian, they are accepting their good nature.
A cardinal principle of Christianity is that our nature is not good. If it were, we wouldn't need any savior from sin.

Many use 'magick' or 'witchcraft' to solve their spiritual problems. In Christianity, these arts are no longer needed, because in Christ, our magic is perfect.
I really don't think witchcraft is a major thread to Christianity in today's world. There are a number of "isms" and movements that are much more threatening. Of course, that's just my opinion.
 
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Who called him 'the enemy'? His enemy. You can't define someone as bad just because someone called them the enemy. Imagine if the Axis forces had a nickname for the Allies that translated as the enemy. Would that make the Allies the enemies of the world?

You can't necessarily base your moral judgement on titles and names.

That which harms our spirit is our enemy.

We must not worship any deity as God, only the existing one.

Satan 'the enemy' though created from the existing one, tends to make imbalance. As Christian we are too bring things into balance.

A cardinal principle of Christianity is that our nature is not good. If it were, we wouldn't need any savior from sin.


I really don't think witchcraft is a major thread to Christianity in today's world. There are a number of "isms" and movements that are much more threatening. Of course, that's just my opinion.

My friend, man was not made to sin. Sin in an unnatural trait we are being bred with.

When a Christian accepts salvation they are also taking on the path that Christ made for us and accepting the 'good' nature that they are supposed to have.

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Blessings readers.

Keep seeking, and keep learning. God teaches us well. :)
 
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My friend, man was not made to sin.
No one said he was.

When a Christian accepts salvation they are also taking on the path that Christ made for us and accepting the 'good' nature that they are supposed to have.
We don't accept a nature. It is what you are or have.

And even if we are saved, we still retain the susceptibility to sin. The just man falls seven times a day, remember.

We don't become angelic or sinless even though we have been redeemed. As some like to put it, "Christians aren't perfect; they're just forgiven."
 
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I just don't see how witchcraft is even considered an issue in Christianity today. My impression is that only the highly superstitious are concerned about it, whereas most Christians are not worried about a witch casting a spell on them. Perhaps my impression is wrong though, and the concern is more commonplace than I thought.
 
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