Why Two Opposites In This Forum?

[Simon Peter]

But I’m happy with this forum just as it is (and always has been since I joined in 2004). It has always been WOF pushing their agenda and the rest of us opposing. It has been that way from the day I joined.

~Jim

I concur, that is what I've witnessed in the last six years.

WoF doctrines are divisive.

In fact that is what caused some non-WoF people to request their own forum; so they could get away from it once in while, and post threads without WoF interference. I guess that didn't work out to well...



peace,
Simon

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Or, you can always start your own forum.

And, FTR, we are not bleeding members and we never have. Participation in the SFPC forum has remained stable since I joined it in 2004.

~Jim

Remember the weekday and keep it holy.​

Da Nile is also a river in Egypt.

 

[JimfromOhio]

I concur, that is what I've witnessed in the last six years.

WoF doctrines are divisive.

In fact that is what caused some non-WoF people to request their own forum; so they could get away from it once in while, and post threads without WoF interference. I guess that didn't work out to well...



peace,
Simon

Yep and more.

 

[psalms 91]

But I’m happy with this forum just as it is (and always has been since I joined in 2004). It has always been WOF pushing their agenda and the rest of us opposing. It has been that way from the day I joined.

~Jim

Remember the weekday and keep it holy.​

Funny, many do not see it that way, I know of a site, not WOF, where many disillsioned CF people, most from this forum have gone. That is why I can say that there is aproblem here and if the powers that be will pay attention to the posting it will not take long to understand it.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, from my experience here, that's what happened.

Yes, I am sure you see it that way but if you care to look it is not WOF that hijacks healing threads and many others, there are at least two on here now that prove that.

 

[psalms 91]

I concur, that is what I've witnessed in the last six years.

WoF doctrines are divisive.

In fact that is what caused some non-WoF people to request their own forum; so they could get away from it once in while, and post threads without WoF interference. I guess that didn't work out to well...



peace,
Simon

Then you should have no problem with two different congregational areas

 

[psalms 91]

Da Nile is also a river in Egypt.

Aint that the truth

 

[JimfromOhio]

Yes, I am sure you see it that way but if you care to look it is not WOF that hijacks healing threads and many others, there are at least two on here now that prove that.

two? ummmmmmm

 

[SavedByGrace3]

But I’m happy with this forum just as it is (and always has been since I joined in 2004). It has always been WOF pushing their agenda and the rest of us opposing. It has been that way from the day I joined.

~Jim

Remember the weekday and keep it holy.​

Pushing an agenda?
You mean our sharing things we believe in.

It is just a matter of perception.
I could just as easily say it has always been a matter of heresy hunters and those brain washed by heresy hunters who are following their lust for division and strife. See how easy it is to just make up some negative spin to make things look like someone else is wrong and you are always right?

Believe it or not... some people actually like to discuss things... even if they do not agree with them. They talk, the agree with some, they disagree with some... and they go on their way. Some actually like to learn. Some even change their minds.
I know you would like to shut that down and just silence everyone by accusing them of some mysterious and dark "agenda" (ooooohhh). Sorry Jims, there is not some huge behind the scenes conspiracy plotting to take over the world for WoF starting with the SPCP forum. Kenneth Hagin did not fake his own death and he is not pulling the strings from an underground bunker in Tulsa. No.. Ken Copeland was not on the grassy knoll on Nov 22 1963...

 

[psalms 91]

two? ummmmmmm

threads, not people, although I could have said that as well.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I concur, that is what I've witnessed in the last six years.

WoF doctrines are divisive.

In fact that is what caused some non-WoF people to request their own forum; so they could get away from it once in while, and post threads without WoF interference. I guess that didn't work out to well...



peace,
Simon

Non-WoF doctrines are divisive.
Would another WoF member please chime in and agree just so we can cancel this ignorance out?

 

[JimfromOhio]

Pushing an agenda?
You mean our sharing things we believe in.

It is just a matter of perception.
I could just as easily say it has always been a matter of heresy hunters and those brain washed by heresy hunters who are following their lust for division and strife. See how easy it is to just make up some negative spin to make things look like someone else is wrong and you are always right?

Believe it or not... some people actually like to discuss things... even if they do not agree with them. They talk, the agree with some, they disagree with some... and they go on their way. Some actually like to learn. Some even change their minds.
I know you would like to shut that down and just silence everyone by accusing them of some mysterious and dark "agenda" (ooooohhh). Sorry Jims, there is not some huge behind the scenes conspiracy plotting to take over the world for WoF starting with the SPCP forum. Kenneth Hagin did not fake his own death and he is not pulling the strings from an underground bunker in Tulsa. No.. Ken Copeland was not on the grassy knoll on Nov 22 1963...

All of us, our beliefs shape our values, and our values shape our actions.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Non-WoF doctrines are divisive.
Would another WoF member please chime in and agree just so we can cancel this ignorance out?

Or the other way around. Many see WOF is very divisive to many denomination and sections in CF.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Or the other way around. Many see WOF is very divisive to many denomination and sections in CF.

That was already said and you already amened it. You do not get another amen until I get a good amen from a WoF supporter.

 

[JimfromOhio]

That was already said and you already amened it. You do not get another amen until I get a good amen from a WoF supporter.

Obviously

 

[pdudgeon]

You implied in your earlier post that some person created the SOF on their own. The current Sof as taken directly from the FSGs that were written by the members. Yes, it is briefer - as was directed by Advisors. The Advisors had to approve the SoF. IF you have more issue with them, my suggestion is to start a thread in the MemberServices center and have a discussion wth the Advisors and Admins about it.
EXPLAIN to them why they are inadequate and compare them to what was there. That is the place to discuss this. My only point in posting here was the implication that was given - it is not accurate.

Perhaps furthur discussion needs to be pm so the thread gets back on topic.

you should know better than this.
once things are done they are done. once the Advisors have spoken, there is no more discussion/change that can take place.

as stated in the beginning my only purpose in posting was to explain why i could neither answer the question nor produce the documents that would explain why WOF were talking about things not listed in the current SOF.

 

[probinson]

And, FTR, we are not bleeding members and we never have. Participation in the SFPC forum has remained stable since I joined it in 2004.

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You are fast becoming this guy;

 

[JimfromOhio]

You are fast becoming this guy;

As I said in the past, your sarcasm is well-known.

 

[probinson]

As I said in the past, your sarcasm is well-known.

Not sarcasm, just pointing out the absurdity of Jim's denial of reality. In fact, I think he needs this shirt, stat;

 

[pdudgeon]

i will say that many people do see WOF doctrines as devisive. But i'm sure that we are not the latest nor the last group who will be labeled as such.

Luther was devisive,
Wesley was devisive,
Christ was devisive,and they crucified Him.
Phillip was devisive and he was stoned
Peter was devisive and he was stoned, put in chains, etc.

i think we're in good company.

ps. WOF had their own forum first.