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You did not bother to answer because you could not for the simple fact of 1 Cor 2:14 still blocks your understanding. Let go and let God.Sure, somehow I am the evil one when you've openly admitted that,
you don't want to be persecuted when we are all called to be persecuted.
you believe you can still commit adultery and be right with God.
and you were found associated with a scheming faction in this forum slandering other believers in Christ in this forum and scheming ways to deceitfully ban people.
And somehow I have been seen for what I really am? Bahaha. I have no respect for people of the likes of you.
Please clarify because I think you said we are not sinless yet we are.
Now if you said that The Father no longer sees our sin due to the shed Blood of Christ and we are "cloaked" in His imputed righteousness, The Father sees Christ when He looks at us, then you have something there.
You did not bother to answer because you could not for the simple fact of 1 Cor 2:14 still blocks your understanding. Let go and let God.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. (1 Corinthians 2:14-15 [KJV])
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. (1 John 3:6 [KJV])
Nah, he probably fell asleep reading it like most of us do......Did you read that longer post I gave you to read?
Nah, he probably fell asleep reading it like most of us do......
That was not the question and you know it....go hide.....I did give you an answer on that verse, now didn't I? Or perhaps you missed it? Perhaps you are blind? Perhaps you wish to reject it? The answer was this,
A natural man is anyone who is not spiritual. A spiritual man understands the word of God and has wisdom concerning the things of God, because the wisdom of God comes forth from the spirit of God, so anyone who is spiritual will understand this wisdom. And anyone who is spiritual, is also able to judge all things, yet he himself cannot be judged by anyone because he has been set free from sin by the spirit of God, therefore no one is able to judge him, as there is nothing to judge anymore. Yet obviously if you are still committing adultery, you have neither known him or seen God, and are thus not a spiritual man,
And if you are still sinning, you will indeed be judged.
Read and learn. Humble yourself.
Not what Paul writes....only what you write.....Indeed, because of this.... "...for they are foolishness unto him...".
That was not the question and you know it....go hide.....
I will post it one more time to see if you will answer it.....I doubt you will but here is your opportunity....You asked what it means, and I told you what it means. Read and learn. Humble yourself. Break yourself before you are broken by God.
Not what Paul writes....only what you write.....
You got that part right, but that is the easy part. The rest not so much. This is your big belief:
1Co 5:5 turn this man over to Satan for the destruction of his body, so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord.
So, how are they going to turn him over to Satan? Convene a witches coven and conjure him up? Have a midnite Satanic Mass? But you ignore the rest of the verse: so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord. But if his body is destroyed by Satan how will his spirit be saved?..Through his repentance. Being turned over to Satan is to remove him from the church. In reality all outside the church belong to Satan. He has removed himself spiritually already, now he has to be removed phsyically so he understands the consequences of what he has done; he is removed from the church. 1Co 5:13 God will judge outsiders. "Expel that wicked man." But his spirit may still be saved....how?....through repentance, grace, forgiveness which is what he and we live under. We don't know if he repents and is allowed back in; that part of the story is not given to us. But the hope is given to us.
1Co 5:1 It is actually reported that sexual immorality exists among you, and of a kind that is not found even among the gentiles. A man is actually living with his father's wife!
1Co 5:2 And you are being arrogant instead of being filled with grief and seeing to it that the man who did this is removed from among you.
1Co 5:3 Even though I am away from you physically, I am with you in spirit. I have already passed judgment on the man who did this, as though I were present with you.
1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are gathered together (and I am there in spirit), and the power of our Lord Jesus is there, too,
1Co 5:5 turn this man over to Satan for the destruction of his body, so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord.
1Co 5:6 Your boasting is not good. You know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough, don't you?
1Co 5:7 Get rid of the old yeast so that you may be a new batch of dough, since you are to be free from yeast. For the Messiah, our Passover, has been sacrificed.
1Co 5:8 So let's keep celebrating the festival, neither with old yeast nor with yeast that is evil and wicked, but with yeast-free bread that is both sincere and true.
1Co 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter to stop associating with people who are sexually immoral—
1Co 5:10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, greedy, robbers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.
1Co 5:11 But now I am writing to you to stop associating with any so-called brother if he is sexually immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunk, or a robber. You must even stop eating with someone like that.
1Co 5:12 After all, is it my business to judge outsiders? You are to judge those who are in the community, aren't you?
1Co 5:13 God will judge outsiders. "Expel that wicked man."
I was going to say something about a "person" who twists and turns scriptures to their own advantage but I don't believe I can use that term here....I've quoted the writings of Paul. And you reject them. I've also quoted 1 John concerning sin, and you reject them. There is no amount of scripture that can be quoted to you for you to bend to the truth. You only care for what you know and what you want to do. You don't care about the things of God, otherwise you would concern yourself with obedience to God and not surmise that disobedience is alright with God.
What part of this do you not understand? Let me know.
I was going to say something about a "person" who twists and turns scriptures to their own advantage but I don't believe I can use that term here....
But you ignore the rest of the verse: so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord. But if his body is destroyed by Satan how will his spirit be saved?..Through his repentance. Being turned over to Satan is to remove him from the church. In reality all outside the church belong to Satan. He has removed himself spiritually already, now he has to be removed phsyically so he understands the consequences of what he has done; he is removed from the church. 1Co 5:13 God will
Amen. What a wonderful explanation of the grace we must show one another as Christ does for us. This is the tough love we must have for each other. We are our brother's keeper.
I am shaking in my wool socks as I am sipping my rum....wanna try again?
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