Why The Trinity is a False Teaching - Summarized Doctrinal Reasons

[cgaviria]

The teaching of the trinity skews the understanding of certain basic truths, and they are the following,

Jesus Christ, birthed in the beginning of creation, which is why he is called a "son", by the Father, whose identity is I AM, as the Father does not have a name, as he is not created as we are to have name, and was said to be "engendered" today, which was day one of creation. A son does not precede a father nor does a son come at the same time as a father, but a father comes first, then a son, and since the father never began, therefore the son did indeed begin, as that is the next natural order of precedence. Jesus Christ is also said to be "only son", and this is because he was the only being created directly by the Father, and then all life came into existence through Jesus.

Before Jesus Christ began speaking things into existence, the Father created first, which included preparing the heavens, founding the earth which had water, and bringing forth the spirit of God that bore upon the water. When these things came into existence, day one had begun, and in that same day, Jesus Christ then uttered his first words, "let there be light".

Jesus Christ was the spirit of God that bore upon the water, and this is the evidence of his pre-existence in the Genesis account, and the identity of this spirit was a mystery until his name was revealed thousands of years later, as Jesus, which is when he became incarnate of a virgin. This spirit of God, is also the one who started speaking, hence why Jesus Christ is also called the word of God, because he spoke things into existence, which included all life.

On day four of creation, when Jesus Christ spoke the luminaries of the heavens into existence, is the first day other living beings came forth into existence, which were angels. Of these angels, the angel YHWH became revealed, which was the name revealed to Moses when the angel YHWH gave his own name to Moses in a burning bush, and this was name that the Hebrews used to seek God in the old covenant until much later we were given a new name, for a new covenant, which is the name of Jesus Christ, which is even higher than the name of YHWH, and by whom only in the name of Jesus can a man now be saved. This angel named YHWH was the being Jesus Christ then spoke to on day six of creation, which is why Jesus said, "Let us...", as he was not speaking to the Father, as the Father already gave Jesus words to speak, but instead, it was Jesus speaking to this angel. This angel, was indeed a holy spirit, that then breathed into man the breath of life, as commanded, and thus demonstrated that life not only came by the utterances of Jesus Christ, but also by holy spirit giving forth breath to bring forth life. And this same type of life giving holy spirit, is the same kind of spirit that is said to raise Jesus Christ from the dead, and also all who are believers and sons of the resurrection as well, as it is holy spirit inside each that brings forth life.

There is not just one holy spirit, but many. Each believer receives a distinct holy spirit, which is indeed an angel given to each believer to inhabit the body of each believer, that is sent from heaven to guide, teach, reveal things of the future, give power, sanctify, and perfect.

For a deeper study on these topics, I recommend reading the following studies,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/01/08/why-the-trinity-is-a-false-doctrine/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2015/12/1...-also-began-only-the-father-has-no-beginning/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2015/12/2...ng-that-lives-in-us-that-is-sent-from-heaven/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/01/15/the-power-of-the-spirit-and-being-baptized-in-holy-spirit/

 

[Thursday]

The teaching of the trinity skews the understanding of certain basic truths, and they are the following,

Jesus Christ, birthed in the beginning of creation, by the Father, whose identity is I AM, hence why Jesus is called a son, and said to be "engendered" today, which was day one of creation. A son does not precede a father nor does a son come at the same time as a father, but a father comes first, then a son, and since the father never began, therefore the son did indeed begin, as that is the next natural order of precedence. Jesus Christ is also said to be "only son", and this is because he was the only being created directly by the Father, and then all life came into existence through Jesus.

Before Jesus Christ began speaking things into existence, the Father created first, which included preparing the heavens, founding the earth which had water, and bringing forth the spirit of God that bore upon the water. When these things came into existence, day one had begun, and in that same day, Jesus Christ then uttered his first words, "let there be light".

Jesus Christ was the spirit of God that bore upon the water, and the identity of this spirit was a mystery until his name was revealed thousands of years later, as Jesus, which is when he became incarnate of a virgin. This spirit of God, is also the one who started speaking, hence why Jesus Christ is also called the word of God, because he spoke things into existence, which included all life.

On day four of creation, when Jesus Christ spoke the luminaries of the heavens into existence, is the first day other living beings came forth into existence, which were angels. Of these angels, the angel YHWH became revealed, which was the name revealed to Moses when the angel YHWH gave his name to Moses in a burning bush, and this was name that the Hebrews used to seek God in the old covenant until much later we were given a new name, for a new covenant, which is the name of Jesus Christ, which is even higher than the name of YHWH, and by whom only in the name of Jesus can a man now be saved. This angel YHWH was the being Jesus Christ then spoke to on day six of creation, which is why Jesus said, "Let us...", as he was not speaking to the Father, as the Father already gave Jesus words to speak, but instead, it was Jesus speaking to this angel. This angel, was indeed a holy spirit, that then breathed into man the breath of life, as commanded, and thus demonstrated that life not only came by the utterances of Jesus Christ, but also by holy spirit giving forth breath to bring forth life. And this same type of life giving holy spirit, is the same kind of spirit that is said to raise Jesus Christ from the dead, and also all who are believers and sons of the resurrection as well, as it is holy spirit inside each that brings forth life.

There is not just one holy spirit, but many. Each believer receives a distinct holy spirit, which is indeed an angel given to each believer to inhabit the body of each believer, that is sent from heaven to guide, teach, reveal things of the future, give power, sanctify, and perfect.

For a deeper study on these topics, I recommend reading the following studies,

God is a family.

One God, ie. family, with three persons.

This fits with scripture:

Gen 1:26Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness

John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

John 15
26“When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.

 

[Winken]

The teaching of the trinity skews the understanding of certain basic truths, and they are the following,

Jesus Christ, birthed in the beginning of creation, which is why he is called a "son", by the Father, whose identity is I AM, as the Father does not have a name, as he is not created as we are to have name, and was said to be "engendered" today, which was day one of creation. A son does not precede a father nor does a son come at the same time as a father, but a father comes first, then a son, and since the father never began, therefore the son did indeed begin, as that is the next natural order of precedence. Jesus Christ is also said to be "only son", and this is because he was the only being created directly by the Father, and then all life came into existence through Jesus.

Before Jesus Christ began speaking things into existence, the Father created first, which included preparing the heavens, founding the earth which had water, and bringing forth the spirit of God that bore upon the water. When these things came into existence, day one had begun, and in that same day, Jesus Christ then uttered his first words, "let there be light".

Jesus Christ was the spirit of God that bore upon the water, and this is the evidence of his pre-existence in the Genesis account, and the identity of this spirit was a mystery until his name was revealed thousands of years later, as Jesus, which is when he became incarnate of a virgin. This spirit of God, is also the one who started speaking, hence why Jesus Christ is also called the word of God, because he spoke things into existence, which included all life.

On day four of creation, when Jesus Christ spoke the luminaries of the heavens into existence, is the first day other living beings came forth into existence, which were angels. Of these angels, the angel YHWH became revealed, which was the name revealed to Moses when the angel YHWH gave his own name to Moses in a burning bush, and this was name that the Hebrews used to seek God in the old covenant until much later we were given a new name, for a new covenant, which is the name of Jesus Christ, which is even higher than the name of YHWH, and by whom only in the name of Jesus can a man now be saved. This angel named YHWH was the being Jesus Christ then spoke to on day six of creation, which is why Jesus said, "Let us...", as he was not speaking to the Father, as the Father already gave Jesus words to speak, but instead, it was Jesus speaking to this angel. This angel, was indeed a holy spirit, that then breathed into man the breath of life, as commanded, and thus demonstrated that life not only came by the utterances of Jesus Christ, but also by holy spirit giving forth breath to bring forth life. And this same type of life giving holy spirit, is the same kind of spirit that is said to raise Jesus Christ from the dead, and also all who are believers and sons of the resurrection as well, as it is holy spirit inside each that brings forth life.

There is not just one holy spirit, but many. Each believer receives a distinct holy spirit, which is indeed an angel given to each believer to inhabit the body of each believer, that is sent from heaven to guide, teach, reveal things of the future, give power, sanctify, and perfect.

For a deeper study on these topics, I recommend reading the following studies,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/01/08/why-the-trinity-is-a-false-doctrine/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2015/12/1...-also-began-only-the-father-has-no-beginning/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2015/12/2...ng-that-lives-in-us-that-is-sent-from-heaven/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/01/15/the-power-of-the-spirit-and-being-baptized-in-holy-spirit/

You write exceptionally well. Do you read, understand and speak another language?

 

[cgaviria]

You write exceptionally well. Do you read, understand and speak another language?

Thank you. I write and am fluent in Spanish as well.

 

[Commander Xenophon]

The teaching of the trinity skews the understanding of certain basic truths, and they are the following,

Jesus Christ, birthed in the beginning of creation, which is why he is called a "son", by the Father, whose identity is I AM, as the Father does not have a name, as he is not created as we are to have name, and was said to be "engendered" today, which was day one of creation. A son does not precede a father nor does a son come at the same time as a father, but a father comes first, then a son, and since the father never began, therefore the son did indeed begin, as that is the next natural order of precedence. Jesus Christ is also said to be "only son", and this is because he was the only being created directly by the Father, and then all life came into existence through Jesus.

Before Jesus Christ began speaking things into existence, the Father created first, which included preparing the heavens, founding the earth which had water, and bringing forth the spirit of God that bore upon the water. When these things came into existence, day one had begun, and in that same day, Jesus Christ then uttered his first words, "let there be light".

Jesus Christ was the spirit of God that bore upon the water, and this is the evidence of his pre-existence in the Genesis account, and the identity of this spirit was a mystery until his name was revealed thousands of years later, as Jesus, which is when he became incarnate of a virgin. This spirit of God, is also the one who started speaking, hence why Jesus Christ is also called the word of God, because he spoke things into existence, which included all life.

On day four of creation, when Jesus Christ spoke the luminaries of the heavens into existence, is the first day other living beings came forth into existence, which were angels. Of these angels, the angel YHWH became revealed, which was the name revealed to Moses when the angel YHWH gave his own name to Moses in a burning bush, and this was name that the Hebrews used to seek God in the old covenant until much later we were given a new name, for a new covenant, which is the name of Jesus Christ, which is even higher than the name of YHWH, and by whom only in the name of Jesus can a man now be saved. This angel named YHWH was the being Jesus Christ then spoke to on day six of creation, which is why Jesus said, "Let us...", as he was not speaking to the Father, as the Father already gave Jesus words to speak, but instead, it was Jesus speaking to this angel. This angel, was indeed a holy spirit, that then breathed into man the breath of life, as commanded, and thus demonstrated that life not only came by the utterances of Jesus Christ, but also by holy spirit giving forth breath to bring forth life. And this same type of life giving holy spirit, is the same kind of spirit that is said to raise Jesus Christ from the dead, and also all who are believers and sons of the resurrection as well, as it is holy spirit inside each that brings forth life.

There is not just one holy spirit, but many. Each believer receives a distinct holy spirit, which is indeed an angel given to each believer to inhabit the body of each believer, that is sent from heaven to guide, teach, reveal things of the future, give power, sanctify, and perfect.

For a deeper study on these topics, I recommend reading the following studies,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/01/08/why-the-trinity-is-a-false-doctrine/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2015/12/1...-also-began-only-the-father-has-no-beginning/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2015/12/2...ng-that-lives-in-us-that-is-sent-from-heaven/

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/01/15/the-power-of-the-spirit-and-being-baptized-in-holy-spirit/

Sacred scripture says our Lord created all things; by this standard, I don't see how you can say He himself was created. There is a difference between being created and being begat.

 

[cgaviria]

Sacred scripture says our Lord created all things; by this standard, I don't see how you can say He himself was created. There is a difference between being created and being begat.

He didn't create all "things". If you read carefully at one of my studies, you will see for yourself that "things" was not part of the original words, instead it should read "all through him existed", meaning all living beings, not all "things". This coincides with the Genesis account of water and the earth already existing before Jesus even began speaking, and this was because the Father created first, which included creating Jesus, then Jesus began creating what he uttered into existence.

 

[Commander Xenophon]

He didn't create all "things". If you read carefully at one of my studies, you will see for yourself that "things" was not part of the original words, instead it should read "all through him existed", meaning all living beings, not all "things". This coincides with the Genesis account of water and the earth already existing before Jesus even began speaking, and this was because the Father created first, which included creating Jesus, then Jesus began creating what he uttered into existence.

John 1:3 in the original Greek reads "Panta" (panta di autou egeneto) meaning all things; compare with Acts 17:25 which translates as "all life" (pasin zoen).

 

[cgaviria]

John 1:3 in the original Greek reads "Panta" (panta di autou egeneto) meaning all things; compare with Acts 17:25 which translates as "all life" (pasin zoen).

Panta does not translate to "all things" buddy. Nice try. It translates to "all", hence why in this scripture it is translated correctly using the same word,

For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. (Matthew 5:18 [ESV])

 

[Commander Xenophon]

Panta does not translate to "all things" buddy. Nice try. It translates to "all", hence why in this scripture it is translated correctly using the same word,

"Things" is implied. It matters little however, because "all" and "all things are synonymous" whereas "all life" would be phrased differently, as in Acts 17:25.

 

[cgaviria]

"Things" is implied. It matters little however, because "all" and "all things are synonymous" whereas "all life" would be phrased differently, as in Acts 17:25.

You just affirmed what I said, "things" was implied, meaning it was added. And yes, it does matter because it makes a huge difference in establishing the case that Jesus was created, because clarity in this verse affirms that the Father did indeed create first. People that believe as you do can never explain how water existed even before Jesus began speaking, and always just brush it off, never coming to the realization of what I just explained.

 

[Righttruth]

This is my understanding of the Trinity: Genesis 1:1 informs about God, v.2 on the Holy Spirit and v.3 of the Word/Jesus. The Word was a thought of God; hence, the Word was God. It ceased to become God afterwards. Both the Word and God created the world. God is Spirit, so also the Holy Spirit. However, they are referred to as Persons in the Bible. That is all.

 

[Goatee]

cgaviria

Is not belief in the Trinity a key element in being a Christian?

 

[7xlightray]

Before Jesus Christ began speaking things into existence, the Father created first, which included preparing the heavens, founding the earth which had water, and bringing forth the spirit of God that bore upon the water. When these things came into existence, day one had begun, and in that same day, Jesus Christ then uttered his first words, "let there be light".

Jesus Christ was the spirit of God that bore upon the water, and this is the evidence of his pre-existence in the Genesis account, and the identity of this spirit was a mystery until his name was revealed thousands of years later, as Jesus, which is when he became incarnate of a virgin. This spirit of God, is also the one who started speaking, hence why Jesus Christ is also called the word of God, because he spoke things into existence, which included all life.

On day four of creation, when Jesus Christ spoke the luminaries of the heavens into existence, is the first day other living beings came forth into existence, which were angels. Of these angels, the angel YHWH became revealed, which was the name revealed to Moses when the angel YHWH gave his own name to Moses in a burning bush, and this was name that the Hebrews used to seek God in the old covenant until much later we were given a new name, for a new covenant, which is the name of Jesus Christ, which is even higher than the name of YHWH, and by whom only in the name of Jesus can a man now be saved. This angel named YHWH was the being Jesus Christ then spoke to on day six of creation, which is why Jesus said, "Let us...", as he was not speaking to the Father, as the Father already gave Jesus words to speak, but instead, it was Jesus speaking to this angel. This angel, was indeed a holy spirit, that then breathed into man the breath of life, as commanded, and thus demonstrated that life not only came by the utterances of Jesus Christ, but also by holy spirit giving forth breath to bring forth life. And this same type of life giving holy spirit, is the same kind of spirit that is said to raise Jesus Christ from the dead, and also all who are believers and sons of the resurrection as well, as it is holy spirit inside each that brings forth life.

I've been down the road you are on, and searched all things as to Who the true God is, for I found the trinity to be in error. It took a lot of humbling myself, and admitting many times I was wrong, but I was determined to find the true God of the Bible. When slowly passages came together that showed God the Father is the only true God, and Jesus a man, though son of God, did not preexist. What we have to remember is there are two creations, the first original, and the new creation through Christ.

I know this is a very hard thing to except. It was hard for me to except, it was the last thing I wanted to except, I even said to myself, there is no way I would believe something like that. So, I know there is nothing I can say, but if your are looking for the truth, then you will not give up.

With that, I ask, if the Father created heaven, the earth, and the sea, and Jesus created all that is in them, then why do we read of this angel who you say is “LORD – YHWH” who is the one that created all things, and everything in them...

Nehemiah 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.​

And what do you do with this passage, who you say is the angel-LORD, that Jesus created, and is speaking here to Jesus...

Isaiah 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus [Jesus Isaiah 44:28], whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings [to put all his enemies under him], to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight [this speaks of the Spirit in John the Baptist to prepare the people for the coming of Christ Isaiah 40:4; Luke 3:2-6.]. . .4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name [Luke 1:31]: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me [How is it that Jesus did not know this angel, before he was born, before he came into existence]. 5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me [Jesus did not exist before he was born. Jesus could not have been anyone, that would qualify him as a person before he came into existence]:​

 

[Goatee]

cgaviria

Is not belief in the Trinity a key element in being a Christian?

Still waiting for an answer buddy!

 

[nomadictheist]

I've been down the road you are on, and searched all things as to Who the true God is, for I found the trinity to be in error. It took a lot of humbling myself, and admitting many times I was wrong, but I was determined to find the true God of the Bible. When slowly passages came together that showed God the Father is the only true God, and Jesus a man, though son of God, did not preexist. What we have to remember is there are two creations, the first original, and the new creation through Christ.

I know this is a very hard thing to except. It was hard for me to except, it was the last thing I wanted to except, I even said to myself, there is no way I would believe something like that. So, I know there is nothing I can say, but if your are looking for the truth, then you will not give up.

With that, I ask, if the Father created heaven, the earth, and the sea, and Jesus created all that is in them, then why do we read of this angel who you say is “LORD – YHWH” who is the one that created all things, and everything in them...

Nehemiah 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.​

And what do you do with this passage, who you say is the angel-LORD, that Jesus created, and is speaking here to Jesus...

Isaiah 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus [Jesus Isaiah 44:28], whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings [to put all his enemies under him], to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight [this speaks of the Spirit in John the Baptist to prepare the people for the coming of Christ Isaiah 40:4; Luke 3:2-6.]. . .4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name [Luke 1:31]: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me [How is it that Jesus did not know this angel, before he was born, before he came into existence]. 5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me [Jesus did not exist before he was born. Jesus could not have been anyone, that would qualify him as a person before he came into existence]:​

Cyrus was not Jesus. If Jesus did not exist before He was born, then how could He say of Himself "before Abraham was, I am?" How could He pray that the Father would, after His suffering and death, bestow on Him the "glory which I shared with you before the world began?"

When our "scriptural findings" lead us to deny our Lord's words, that is always a sure sign that we have crossed from understanding into heresy.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I've been down the road you are on, and searched all things as to Who the true God is, for I found the trinity to be in error. It took a lot of humbling myself, and admitting many times I was wrong, but I was determined to find the true God of the Bible. When slowly passages came together that showed God the Father is the only true God, and Jesus a man, though son of God, did not preexist. What we have to remember is there are two creations, the first original, and the new creation through Christ.

I know this is a very hard thing to except. It was hard for me to except, it was the last thing I wanted to except, I even said to myself, there is no way I would believe something like that. So, I know there is nothing I can say, but if your are looking for the truth, then you will not give up.

With that, I ask, if the Father created heaven, the earth, and the sea, and Jesus created all that is in them, then why do we read of this angel who you say is “LORD – YHWH” who is the one that created all things, and everything in them...

Nehemiah 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.​

And what do you do with this passage, who you say is the angel-LORD, that Jesus created, and is speaking here to Jesus...

Isaiah 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus [Jesus Isaiah 44:28], whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings [to put all his enemies under him], to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight [this speaks of the Spirit in John the Baptist to prepare the people for the coming of Christ Isaiah 40:4; Luke 3:2-6.]. . .4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name [Luke 1:31]: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me [How is it that Jesus did not know this angel, before he was born, before he came into existence]. 5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me [Jesus did not exist before he was born. Jesus could not have been anyone, that would qualify him as a person before he came into existence]:​

He is cut off from responding, dont think he is ignoring you if he doesnt answer.

The old lightbulb feature isnt on this forum here any longer which helped to serve others to know that person couldnt respond, but now, folks just dissapear (giving no one a clue) which can sometimes make others believe the person left on their own or simply refuse to answer them (when pressed).

Just click on his name, shows you where he is presently tied up.

 

[nomadictheist]

You just affirmed what I said, "things" was implied, meaning it was added. And yes, it does matter because it makes a huge difference in establishing the case that Jesus was created, because clarity in this verse affirms that the Father did indeed create first. People that believe as you do can never explain how water existed even before Jesus began speaking, and always just brush it off, never coming to the realization of what I just explained.

He didn't create all "things". If you read carefully at one of my studies, you will see for yourself that "things" was not part of the original words, instead it should read "all through him existed", meaning all living beings, not all "things". This coincides with the Genesis account of water and the earth already existing before Jesus even began speaking, and this was because the Father created first, which included creating Jesus, then Jesus began creating what he uttered into existence.

Do we have to go through the greek lesson again?

The Greek word "Panta" which is used here is a form of the root word "Pas." When in plural form, as it is here, it means "everything" or "all things" unless it is modified by another word. In the greek in this verse, there is no modifier, so the only proper translation of the word "panta" here is "all things." I would suggest you invest in an exhaustive Greek concordance and lexicon before you attempt to change the translation of experts who have studied Greek their whole lives.

"Panta" in its singular form, when it is not modified by any other words, means simply "all." Thus, until "all is accomplished" (note the singular tense resulting from the singular form).

But, furthermore the next statement reads that without Him not even one thing (literal translation) was made that was made.

 

[7xlightray]

Cyrus was not Jesus. If Jesus did not exist before He was born, then how could He say of Himself "before Abraham was, I am?" How could He pray that the Father would, after His suffering and death, bestow on Him the "glory which I shared with you before the world began?"

When our "scriptural findings" lead us to deny our Lord's words, that is always a sure sign that we have crossed from understanding into heresy.

If you don't see Christ in Isaiah 45, then you don't; I can't, and won't force you to. Solomon is not Christ either, though it speaks of Christ 1 Chronicles 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD as king instead of David his father. Moses is not Jesus either, but is a type, and speaks of Christ. Nor Joseph, and so forth, though the the prophets and Moses speak of Christ. Even Adam and Eve is a great mystery Ephesians 5:30-32.

I've explained these passages to you, for example Jesus asked for this glory he had before the world was, then says hast given, showing it is as 1 Corinthians 2:7-12. It's been given to us, and Jesus, before the foundation of the world. In fact you will also notice verse 2 of John 17 the authority Jesus had not yet received, though it says “have given him authority over all flesh.”

 

[7xlightray]

He is cut off from responding, dont think he is ignoring you if he doesnt answer.

The old lightbulb feature isnt on this forum here any longer which helped to serve others to know that person couldnt respond, but now, folks just dissapear (giving no one a clue) which can sometimes make others believe the person left on their own or simply refuse to answer them (when pressed).

Just click on his name, shows you where he is presently tied up.

Okay, Thamks!

 

[Fireinfolding]

Seems similar to this as well

Psalm 132:11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it;
Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.

Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him,
that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Psalm 132:12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.

Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

There fixed it