Why the Seventh-day Adventist church is the Remnant Church in the Bible

[BobRyan]

The Bible does not limit salvation to the term "remnant" rather the term refers to that portion of the saints during any given age that are promoting the message of God for that age.

For example Noah's message or John the baptist or Paul or, Wycliffe or Luther or Miller, or ... each of them in their day were promoting that message for their day but they were not the only people on the planet that were saved during their day.

The Seventh-day Adventist church is the only church today proclaiming the message of Rev 14 and Daniel 7 -- and is at the same time distinguished even among those outside of it - as a church that is closely linked to the "gift of prophecy" as Rev 12 states in the term "testimony of Jesus" defined in Rev 19 as "the gift of prophecy".

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Some have asked recently "what is a Seventh-day Adventist" Christian and the shortest answer I can think of is.

1. Start with Seventh-day Baptist
2. then add to that our focus on the ministry of Christ in heaven as we see in Heb 8 and 9, and modeled for us in Lev 16 regarding the "Day of Atonement".
3. Then add a full acceptance of the Matt 10:28 fact regarding the "destruction of both body and soul" in fiery hell.
4. Add the full acceptance of 1Cor 12 and 1Cor 14:1.
5. Add the full acceptance of 1Thess 4 regarding the "dead in Christ" who have "fallen asleep" and that "rise first"
6. Add the Matt 24 fact that "immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days ... he will send forth His angels to gather His elect".



Note the details you find in D.L. Moody's sermon on the Sabbath Commandment.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[ricker]

The Bible does not limit salvation to the term "remnant" rather the term refers to that portion of the saints during any given age that are promoting the message of God for that age.

For example Noah's message or John the baptist or Paul or, Wycliffe or Luther or Miller, or ... each of them in their day were promoting that message for their day but they were not the only people on the planet that were saved during their day.

The Seventh-day Adventist church is the only church today proclaiming the message of Rev 14 and Daniel 7 -- and is at the same time distinguished even among those outside of it - as a church that is closely linked to the "gift of prophecy" as Rev 12 states in the term "testimony of Jesus" defined in Rev 19 as "the gift of prophecy".

in Christ,

Bob

Does the Bible call Noah, or John the Baptist, Paul, or any other "saints during any given age that are promoting the message of God" the Remnant?

 

[BobRyan]

Does the Bible call Noah, or John the Baptist, Paul, or any other "saints during any given age that are promoting the message of God" the Remnant?

The term remnant "what is left" is used only in the book of Revelation which is concerned primarily with events future to the time of John.

But the concept applies to the saints in all ages. Except possibly for Adam and Eve ..

It means "what is left" after some event or after some time has passed. And if you read what Rev 12 says about it - it is "what is left" that is in obedience to all the word of God.

So when we look at Rev 12 - it is certain that there were some saints in the camp of the papacy - yet they were persecuting the Protestants (at least some of them were) - but the Protestant movement was at that time the "remnant" and is in fact among one of the 7 churches in Rev 3.

 

[reddogs]

The term remnant "what is left" is used only in the book of Revelation which is concerned primarily with events future to the time of John.

But the concept applies to the saints in all ages. Except possibly for Adam and Eve ..

It means "what is left" after some event or after some time has passed. And if you read what Rev 12 says about it - it is "what is left" that is in obedience to all the word of God.

So when we look at Rev 12 - it is certain that there were some saints in the camp of the papacy - yet they were persecuting the Protestants (at least some of them were) - but the Protestant movement was at that time the "remnant" and is in fact among one of the 7 churches in Rev 3.

Would you say those that are sealed at the end apply...

 

[BobRyan]

Certainly the message of God for that age is given by those who are sealed in Rev 7 and thus survive the Rev 16 events of the 7 last plagues. They have a message to give to the world - right up until the plagues begin. And after that - their message is to the watching universe alone.

 

[Gary the Kid]

The Bible does not limit salvation to the term "remnant" rather the term refers to that portion of the saints during any given age that are promoting the message of God for that age.

For example Noah's message or John the baptist or Paul or, Wycliffe or Luther or Miller, or ... each of them in their day were promoting that message for their day but they were not the only people on the planet that were saved during their day.

The Seventh-day Adventist church is the only church today proclaiming the message of Rev 14 and Daniel 7 -- and is at the same time distinguished even among those outside of it - as a church that is closely linked to the "gift of prophecy" as Rev 12 states in the term "testimony of Jesus" defined in Rev 19 as "the gift of prophecy".

in Christ,

Bob

What makes the demons the most mad, is when you ask them if the 144,000 that were not defiled by women, were defiled by men............. Little Secret, The Catholic Church seeks to maintain at least 144,000 priests........Revelation is their book.
When you play with Revelations 14, you are playing with fire. Their Fire. Remnants, Yeah Right.......... Everyone says that. Reminds me of the Jewish Remnants who stayed behind and faced Pharaoh after the Red Sea Closed.
John the Baptist, wasn't he the Root of David.......And he baptized with Earth Water.......I keep forgetting the Water from Jesus was dead........never mind.

 

[reddogs]

What makes the demons the most mad, is when you ask them if the 144,000 that were not defiled by women, were defiled by men............. Little Secret, The Catholic Church seeks to maintain at least 144,000 priests........Revelation is their book.
When you play with Revelations 14, you are playing with fire. Their Fire. Remnants, Yeah Right.......... Everyone says that. Reminds me of the Jewish Remnants who stayed behind and faced Pharaoh after the Red Sea Closed.
John the Baptist, wasn't he the Root of David.......And he baptized with Earth Water.......I keep forgetting the Water from Jesus was dead........never mind.

The Catholic church doesn't want anyone to read Revelation much less understand it. They rather its truth stay hidden...

 

[BobRyan]

Reminds me of the Jewish Remnants who stayed behind and faced Pharaoh after the Red Sea Closed.
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Did you see that in a movie?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Did you see that in a movie?

I think he seen it in his mind...

 

[BobRyan]

Col 2 talks about making up movies in your mind -

18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God.

1 Cor 14 Talks about accepting spiritual gifts - including the valid gift of Prophecy

"Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy."

So also 1 Thess 5
"19 Do not quench the Spirit; 20 do not despise prophetic utterances. 21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 22 abstain from every form of evil."

 

[reddogs]

"worship of the angels", interesting...

 

[Dave-W]

Ya know Bob, most of what you wrote here applies just as much to Messianic Judaism.

 

[BobRyan]

The Seventh-day Adventist church is the only church today proclaiming the message of Rev 14 and Daniel 7 -- and is at the same time distinguished even among those outside of it - as a church that is closely linked to the "gift of prophecy" as Rev 12 states in the term "testimony of Jesus" defined in Rev 19 as "the gift of prophecy".

Ya know Bob, most of what you wrote here applies just as much to Messianic Judaism.

I would like to hear more about that in the case of the 4 chapters listed above.

 

[masmpg]

Does the Bible call Noah, or John the Baptist, Paul, or any other "saints during any given age that are promoting the message of God" the Remnant?

Here is what God told Isaiah in
Isaiah:1:9: Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
Isaiah:10:20: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
Isaiah:10:21: The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.
Isaiah:10:22: For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
Isaiah:11:11: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
Isaiah:11:16: And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.
Isaiah:14:22: For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

The references to the "remnant" made from God to Isaiah are referring to different time periods when the Israelites had to pass through trials to bring them back to Him. Do a study on Remnant in the OT and it refers to God's people that escape the wrath and judgments of God which He uses through time to wake His people up and bring them back to Him. There are many more references to remnant even in Isaiah in the KJV bible.

 

[masmpg]

What makes the demons the most mad, is when you ask them if the 144,000 that were not defiled by women, were defiled by men............. Little Secret, The Catholic Church seeks to maintain at least 144,000 priests........Revelation is their book.
When you play with Revelations 14, you are playing with fire. Their Fire. Remnants, Yeah Right.......... Everyone says that. Reminds me of the Jewish Remnants who stayed behind and faced Pharaoh after the Red Sea Closed.
John the Baptist, wasn't he the Root of David.......And he baptized with Earth Water.......I keep forgetting the Water from Jesus was dead........never mind.

So do you believe that the book of revelation cannot be understood?