Why the Sabbath is a moral commandment

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All here told to Israel. Again, provide a verse that says that Abraham kept the sabbath.

Unresponsive and irrelevant. All has been addressed many times before.

You would need to prove when we are told Abraham kept God’s commandments, that the Sabbath is not one of God’s commandments, when God said it is. Deut4:13 Exo20:6 Exo 20:8-11

 

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You would need to prove when we are told Abraham kept God’s commandments, that the Sabbath is not one of God’s commandments, when God said it is. Deut4:13 Exo20:6 Exo 20:8-11

Already did. One statement that Abraham kept commandments but no mention whatsoever in the whole of his story that he worshipped God on the sabbath is a problem for you not for me. The commandments that he kept were for circumcision which is all over his biblical story. You are adding to the scriptures.

The Ten Commandments were given to Moses 430 years later. How can Abraham keep the commandments that he did not have? Exodus and Deuteronomy were written by Moses so the audience is Israel not Abraham or the Christian church. These verses that you keep posting do not help your case.

You guys are the ones condemning the majority of professed Christians for worshipping God on the “wrong” day so the burden of proof is all on your sect. This belief is complete nonsense.

It is your burden of proof to support your argument that the sabbath was instituted at creation when there is no scriptural proof that the sabbath was kept before Moses. Please post a verse that shows the pre Moses people including the Israelites held in captivity kept the sabbath. Please post a verse post crucifixion that shows that the Christian is required to keep the 4th commandment. I challenge you and your sect to provide the verses.

 

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You guys are the ones condemning the majority of professed Christians for worshipping God on the “wrong” day so the burden of proof is all on your sect. This belief is complete nonsense.

It is your burden of proof to support your argument that the sabbath was instituted at creation when there is no scriptural proof that the sabbath was kept before Moses. Please post a verse that shows the pre Moses people including the Israelites held in captivity kept the sabbath. Please post a verse post crucifixion that shows that the Christian is required to keep the 4th commandment. I challenge you and your sect to provide the verses.

That's easy, God said so plainly in His Testimony. I am working on a post that shows the principles of the Ten Commandments starting way before God codified them. Why we see verses like this before Mt Sinai Exo 16:26-28 and of course what God said plainly....

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

There were a lot of Sabbaths before Mt Sinai. The seventh day and the Sabbath are interchangeable according to God. Why in almost every ancient language Saturday literally translates into Sabbath.

https://manna.amazingfacts.org/amazingfacts/website/sabbathtruth/documents/chart-of-the-week.pdf

 

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That's easy, God said so plainly in His Testimony. I am working on a post that shows the principles of the Ten Commandments starting way before God codified them. Why we see verses like this before Mt Sinai Exo 16:26-28 and of course what God said plainly....

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

There were a lot of Sabbaths before Mt Sinai. The seventh day and the Sabbath are interchangeable according to God. Why in almost every ancient language Saturday literally translates into Sabbath.

https://manna.amazingfacts.org/amazingfacts/website/sabbathtruth/documents/chart-of-the-week.pdf

Which proves absolutely nothing. Look at your scripture. You jump from Genesis (creation) directly to Exodus. There are
absolutely no verses in between. If keeping the sabbath was so important that it could cause a person their salvation apart from faith then God would have commanded it before Moses. So either you come up with a verse or your argument is moot and null.

 

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Which proves absolutely nothing. Look at your scripture. You jump from Genesis (creation) directly to Exodus. There are
absolutely no verses in between. If keeping the sabbath was so important that it could cause a person their salvation apart from faith then God would have commanded it before Moses. So either you come up with a verse or your argument is moot and null.

God's Word proves nothing and God telling us what Genesis means, is nothing. Wish we could reason together but if we do not believe God's plain written and spoken Testimony, what I say means nothing, so no point in further discussion. The Bible is written in repeat and enlarge. Why we are told Isa28:10 The Bible is one book and when It reveals the meaning regardless where it comes from especially when it is spoken and written by God, its how the Bible interprets itself, but I know not everyone is interested in that. 2 Tim 4:3-4

Because I said so, it not a good argument against what God says.

Take care.

 

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God's Word proves nothing and God telling us what Genesis means, is nothing. Wish we could reason together but if we do not believe God's plain written and spoken Testimony, what I say means nothing. The Bible is written in repeat and enlarge. Why we are told Isa28:10

Because I said so, it not a good argument against what God says.

Again, look at your scripture that you are using to defend your argument. Just about ALL of it is post Moses and directed at Israel. None of it is prior to Moses or post crucifixion. This is why I keep asking you for verses that are prior to Moses or post crucifixion.

Again, I will posit that prior to Moses and post crucifixion the Jewish sabbath was not kept. If you have verse evidence then post it.

 

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Again, look at your scripture that you are using to defend your argument. Just about ALL of it is post Moses and directed at Israel. None of it is prior to Moses or post crucifixion. This is why I keep asking you for verses that are prior to Moses or post crucifixion.

Again, I will posit that prior to Moses and post crucifixion the Jewish sabbath was not kept. If you have verse evidence then post it.

When God defines something, it doesn't matter where it is in the Scriptures. The entire Bible is the about the testimony of God through His prophets and apostles. Yet when it comes to God's own Testimony Exo31:18, means so little to most professed Christians, sadly. So in essence in doing so, one is elevating man over God. And the sad thing is not even the apostles or prophets taught this, if reading in context.

I looked at the Scriptures God literally spelled out when the Sabbath started, written and spoken by God.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

At Creation there was just man and God. Man was made in God's image and likeness to follow Him. Sadly man has broken this image to follow another instead of staying faithful to God.

I know of no greater authority than He, so I will agree to disagree and move on.

 

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When God defines something, it doesn't matter where it is in the Scriptures. The entire Bible is the about the testimony of God through His prophets and apostles. Yet when it comes to God's own Testimony, means so little to most professed Christians, sadly. So in essence in doing so, one is elevating man over God. And the sad thing is not even the apostles of prophets taught this.

No. God speaks at different times to different groups of people. God cannot expect for people keep his commandments if He has not given them. The biblical FACT is that God gave the stone tablets to Moses at Sanai and NOT before. This IS absolute fact based on scripture.

Secondly, the Torah was written by Moses in the 15th century BCE. There was no written scriptures before then. Moses wrote the Torah under the inspiration of God and FOR the people of Israel.

I looked at the Scriptures it literally spells out when the Sabbath started written and spoken by God. I know of no greater authority than He, so I will agree to disagree and move on.

Again, there is no scripture prior to Moses that teaches the Jewish sabbath. None, nada. You are yet to provide a verse that proves otherwise.