Why the 'obsession' with homosexuality?

[Polycarp_fan]

That comes form one of the Christian hate sites, Focus on the Family, or the Family Fesearch Counsel (ever notice how these groups try to give themselves names opposed to what they actually represent?)

You Gays better build a lot of prisons if you are going to charge every Christian that loves their family with a hate crime for doing so. Hopefully we will be safe from the Gay Agenda there.

 

[BigBadWlf]

The research has yet to develope. The whole gay adoption thing is still new. But, looking at the mental health facilities and the criminal detention centers, people with a mom and a dad (uh, um, man and woman, I keep forgetting I'm dealing with gay mindset) are in short supply. Except of course gang members.

Decades later and we are still waiting for some mysterious “evidence” that must be out there but hidden really really well. Yeah right

You may want to look up what the G the L the B and the T denote in the GLBT community and culture. Every single letter means a sexual proclivity that sprang from sexual urges. In fact, the GLBT side claims it is literally an "orientation."

Just what the ‘sex’ in heterosexual means

Racism and sex acts are not the same thing. Homosexuality is a sex act. Slavery was people enslaving other people. Look it up.

don’t change the fact that your attacks on the gay and lesbian minority are identical to the sickest attacks racists use

Lying, like same-gender sex is a sin. Christians are urged to repne of doing either or both. In fact (biological and physiological) homosexuality is a lie to the gender commiting it on the body. Actually, there is no such thing as same-gender sex. The parts don't match up for the definition. A square peg in a round hole kinda of analogy. Err, yeah.

You are the one promoting lying here

Black lifestyle produces children on,y one way. The normal biological way. There is no difference because of melanin tone. It's absurd to compare Black people to the gay cause. It is just inappropriate.

Bigotry is bigotry no matter if it is directed at people because they are not white or because they aren’t heterosexual.

Like I said , its unfair to the child to deprive him of that all because of sexual orientation.

We are back to the mysterious non-existent evidence you just know someday someone will finally find.

Homosexuality is a lie to the reality of sexuality. There is no such thing as same-gender "sexual intercourse." The parts involved prove that fact. Just failed attempt after failed attempt. But then again, why cloud the issue with facts?

better hide the white women

In the end you are still advocating false witness all because you are a bigot.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

There are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more heterosexuals, many millions more engaging in sinful activities....but you don't see weirdo's standing outside hetero bars with big placards saying ' God hates Fornicators'.

You just see those guys at Gay events.....why so much emphasis on a small minority of sinners, instead of going after the big majority of sinners...the general population?

Are there [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] pride parades I'm unaware of? Any hetero "swine" marching their sex acts down mainstreet? Any adultery flags flying anywhere? Every Christian I know opposes hetero lascivious licentiousness. Yet, we don't see Players, Pimps and Ho's trying to sue us for our oppositionto their behaviors.

What point are you trying to make at a Christian website? The support for gay sex is not going to happen by force or by plea by any Christian that values the word of God.

 

[BigBadWlf]

I thought that that number ' 50 ' was just made up....to think that there are people who believe that someone, heck anyone, anywhere is able to have 50 sexual encounters in one evening and then to pass that off as common?

Propaganda...very bad propaganda at that!

Christian hate groups are great at making up numbers to further their political ends.

If you want a laugh check out the claims of ex-gay ministries – they usually claim that they made hundreds of thousands of gays and lesbians into heterosexuals – they just can’t produce any of these people.

Paul Cameron is a great one for such lies. He originated the lie that gay men have life expectancy of 38 years

 

[BigBadWlf]

Really? How much "saintly behavior" is going on in Gay bars and bathhouses? Care a guess? Anytime someone presents reality about the gay life you gays call it hate. I don't think it is hate when you people point out the sinful behavior of Christians. Please deal with reality. Opposing homosexuality has nothing to do with hate.

When it’s a lie like what you presented….its hate

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Decades later and we are still waiting for some mysterious “evidence” that must be out there but hidden really really well. Yeah right

Just what the ‘sex’ in heterosexual means

don’t change the fact that your attacks on the gay and lesbian minority are identical to the sickest attacks racists use

You are the one promoting lying here

Bigotry is bigotry no matter if it is directed at people because they are not white or because they aren’t heterosexual.

We are back to the mysterious non-existent evidence you just know someday someone will finally find.

better hide the white women

In the end you are still advocating false witness all because you are a bigot.

You have 2433 posts, all trying to get Christians to submit to the Gay Agenda? And you call me the ignorant one? You cannot prove one charge of false witness in my writings.

 

[Aerika]

You cannot prove one charge of false witness in my writings.

And if I prove one ?

 

[BigBadWlf]

Are there [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] pride parades I'm unaware of? Any hetero "swine" marching their sex acts down mainstreet? Any adultery flags flying anywhere? Every Christian I know opposes hetero lascivious licentiousness. Yet, we don't see Players, Pimps and Ho's trying to sue us for our oppositionto their behaviors.

Yep.

Hetero swine do it all the time.
Wedding announcements
Anniversary announcements
Flaunting wedding rings
Pictures of spouses on desks at work
Reading Modern Bride magazine in public.

All flaunting heterosexual lusts.

What point are you trying to make at a Christian website? The support for gay sex is not going to happen by force or by plea by any Christian that values the word of God.

I’m a Christian. And I reject the hatred you preach.

Or are you going to claim because I don’t’ hate the same minorities that you do somehow I am not a Christian?

 

[Maren]

There are NO Liar Pride Parades. There are no liars charging honest people with a hate crime for not liking liars.

No, you don't need liar pride parades because liars already are afforded equal rights. You can lie and still get a marriage license. Liars routinely are able to get jobs, sometimes because they do lie. You aren't even kicked out of your church simply for being a liar -- in fact most churches the people can point you to those members that lie and exaggerate the truth.

On the other hand, gay pride is much the same a civil rights parades of the 50's and 60's. There were times it was even called "Black Pride", when they were focusing solely on equal rights for Blacks rather than equal rights for all. And once gays are treated equally to others you will see the gay pride parades disappear, much like the civil rights parades.

No other sinners are take "pride" in their sins.

LOL. Even I have heard guys (often Christian) bragging about their sexual prowess and having sex with multiple women. Go to any bar and you will hear people brag about how much they drink. And then there are the social activities for adult singles, often organized by churches, that are primarily aimed at those who have divorced so that they can remarry.

Except maybe porn actors and used car salesmen. Still no Porn Pride Parades yet. Unless you count the sex DURING the Pride Parades.

Or, again, what about Mardi Gras? That is a huge parade that heterosexuals put on where sex often occurs, and predates the gay pride parades by centuries. Not to mention other events like Spring Breaks. You might also want to think of nudist colonies, again which are overwhelmingly heterosexual, where they take pride in the sin of nudity.

Sorry, lots of sinful "pride".

No one is proud of masturbation excpet the gay community (and porn community).

Evidence? Especially when masturbation pornography is extremely popular among heterosexuals.

And still NO Liar Pride days at schools that I know of. Most liars don't like to promote that they are liars

Straw man. There are no gay pride days at schools, either.

And that is still ignoring the obvious, in most cases lying is considered to be bad -- it can be proven to harm others. There is no such evidence with homosexuality.

It also ignores the facts that some liars are celebrated. One easy example is the television show Survivor, where the winner typically is shown making several lies and is celebrated for outsmarting (and out-lying) the other contestants. Or the heroes who lie about hiding people so that they won't be killed. For example; Victor Kugler, Johannes Kleiman, Miep Gies, and Bep Voskuijl are considered great heroes for attempting to hide the Frank family from the Nazis, and for lying to the Nazis about it.

Opposing liras does not get you labeled a liaraphobe. And Christians do not accept lying either.

No, it will typically just get you called a liar; since people will claim you are lying about calling them a liar. And again, Christians do accept lying, we've had threads here about it before. Pretty much all Christians claim it is ethical to lie if it will save a person's life (such as the example with the Frank's above). Even more to the point, some Christians claim that Jesus would rather have Christians lie, if it will save a soul, than to tell the truth.

 

[seeker777]

Are there [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] pride parades I'm unaware of? Any hetero "swine" marching their sex acts down mainstreet? Any adultery flags flying anywhere? Every Christian I know opposes hetero lascivious licentiousness. Yet, we don't see Players, Pimps and Ho's trying to sue us for our oppositionto their behaviors.

What point are you trying to make at a Christian website? The support for gay sex is not going to happen by force or by plea by any Christian that values the word of God.

Now I understand...if there weren't gay pride parades, you would ignore homosexuals, just as you ignore all of the other sinners.

Thanks for clearing that up....it's not the act of homosexuality you despise, it's the celebration of the lifestyle....now I get it.

The point I'm trying to make at a Christian site is that Gay people are....people, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, friends....just people.

Poly - I am a Christian. I refuse to condemn homosexuals, just as I would refuse to condemn a friend or family member who was gay. That is why I am here, that is why I am speaking out.

You focus to much on the seedy side of homosexuality, your completely focused on sex. It would be the same thing as some one going on and on about brothels, hookers, call girls, porno, strip bars and at the same time ignoring the hetero's who are involved in monogamous relationships....it's the same thing, but you refuse to see that your not even making sense half the time.

 

[seeker777]

No, you don't need liar pride parades because liars already are afforded equal rights. You can lie and still get a marriage license. Liars routinely are able to get jobs, sometimes because they do lie. You aren't even kicked out of your church simply for being a liar -- in fact most churches the people can point you to those members that lie and exaggerate the truth.

On the other hand, gay pride is much the same a civil rights parades of the 50's and 60's....



No, it will typically just get you called a liar; since people will claim you are lying about calling them a liar. And again, Christians do accept lying, we've had threads here about it before. Pretty much all Christians claim it is ethical to lie if it will save a person's life (such as the example with the Frank's above). Even more to the point, some Christians claim that Jesus would rather have Christians lie, if it will save a soul, than to tell the truth.

Fantastic Post....Poly, your points got shredded to bits.

 

[NPH]

There's been a few things said through the last few pages that get my blood boiling. Hateful, hurtful, stereotypical and untrue things. A couple of times i've almost posted, lashing back at these things.

But instead i'm going to sit here calmly and smile, because equality for everyone (including homosexuals) is on it's way bit by bit and those spewing the garbage will be looked at with derision and pity in the not-so-distant future. At least my descendants will be proud of me for standing up and demanding fair treatment for myself and those like me, rather than looking back and wondering how someone could have been so hateful towards a group of people over some ignorant religious belief.

And that's what has the anti's so worried. They're losing and they know it. The christianity they believe in is inexorably dying off and there is nothing they can do to stop it. In it's place, hopefully, will be a more compassionate christianity that actually seeks to care for people as servants rather than judge people as their masters.

 

[uberd00b]

There's been a few things said through the last few pages that get my blood boiling. Hateful, hurtful, stereotypical and untrue things. A couple of times i've almost posted, lashing back at these things.

But instead i'm going to sit here calmly and smile, because equality for everyone (including homosexuals) is on it's way bit by bit and those spewing the garbage will be looked at with derision and pity in the not-so-distant future. At least my descendants will be proud of me for standing up and demanding fair treatment for myself and those like me, rather than looking back and wondering how someone could have been so hateful towards a group of people over some ignorant religious belief.

And that's what has the anti's so worried. They're losing and they know it. The christianity they believe in is inexorably dying off and there is nothing they can do to stop it. In it's place, hopefully, will be a more compassionate christianity that actually seeks to care for people as servants rather than judge people as their masters.

QFT.


Progress is inevitable.

 

[wanderingone]

You do realize that it is a physical impossibility for "gays" to be "parents." Homosexuality cannot ever produce children. You do know that don't you? If not, I would suggest you get ahold of a middle school physiology or biology book and read it. It puts an end to the homophobia thing as well.

It is not impossible for gays to be parents. It's not impossible for them to be biological or adoptive parents. If you don't consider families created through adoption, surrogacy, IVF etc to be real families you insult not just those who are gay parents but straight parents who have used means other than having sex with each other become parents.

if gay parents who adopt aren't parents then all the adoptive parents in the world aren't really parents. I didn't contribute to my son's DNA, but tell him I'm not his mother and see what happens. If gay parents who use surrogates or IVF aren't really parents then neither are all those straight couples who use those methods.

 

[wanderingone]

Yet, we don't see Players, Pimps and Ho's trying to sue us for our oppositionto their behaviors.

Actually there are plenty of bills proposed regularly to legalize prostitution in those areas of the US where it's illegal... and if the Pimps and Hos balls don't celebrate that "behavior" I don't know what does. We have reality shows about the prostitutes. They don't have to sue us... they get to keep plying their trade.

 

[wanderingone]

Any adultery flags flying anywhere? Every Christian I know opposes hetero lascivious licentiousness.

No need to celebrate adultery with a parade, adulterers got rid of the price paid for adultery when they achieved no fault divorce in every state of the union (except NY... I'm not sure if NY passed their law allowing it yet) In states that have had adultery laws on the books they've been trashed. Adulterers don't have to fight for their rights.. they've been allowed to remarry after divorce... in both civil AND religious ceremonies.

 

[wanderingone]

Five siblings. a homosexual cannot be a mother. It can't happen. It's a fact.

Need a little education there don't you... while I don't know many people with 5 siblings I do know kids and adults with gay mothers -- BIOLOGICAL mothers.

Five siblings. A homosexual cannot be a father. It can't happen. It's a fact.

See above, switch mother for father.

A homosexual cannot breast feed an offspring they can never have. They would have to hire a natural mother for both aspects.

Don't be ridiculous, a woman can breastfeed her child end - of course typically you can't manage to think of lesbians when you think homosexuals.
Adoptive mothers can breast feed as well, it takes a little work, I don't think it's necessary... the bond achieved during feeding can be achieved quite nicely with bottle feeding.

A natural fact is not a lie. This is a good reason to not "legalize" same-sex marriage.

Legal marriage has nothing to do with the ability to procreate

 

[cantata]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1769356.stm

Two women (or two men and a surrogate mother) may one day be able to have babies together which are their genetic offspring.

 

[wanderingone]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1769356.stm

Two women (or two men and a surrogate mother) may one day be able to have babies together which are their genetic offspring.

Oh dear the gay agenda's been exposed.....

 

[PetersKeys]

Now I understand...if there weren't gay pride parades, you would ignore homosexuals, just as you ignore all of the other sinners.

Thanks for clearing that up....it's not the act of homosexuality you despise, it's the celebration of the lifestyle....now I get it.

The point I'm trying to make at a Christian site is that Gay people are....people, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, friends....just people.

Poly - I am a Christian. I refuse to condemn homosexuals, just as I would refuse to condemn a friend or family member who was gay. That is why I am here, that is why I am speaking out.

You focus to much on the seedy side of homosexuality, your completely focused on sex. It would be the same thing as some one going on and on about brothels, hookers, call girls, porno, strip bars and at the same time ignoring the hetero's who are involved in monogamous relationships....it's the same thing, but you refuse to see that your not even making sense half the time.

Seeker, I think what you need to realize is that telling someone homosexuality is a sin is not condemning them. If my friend was doing cocaine he would obviously still be my friend, but I wouldn't justify his using of cocaine. I know a few gay people, and I treat them like people, but I don't justify their sleeping with men, and my wife constantly worries about their health and wellbeing.