WHY THE LORD'S DAY IS NOT SATURDAY

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Show me where He said in EXACTLY 72 hours I will rise? He didn't. He said on the 3rd day and in 3 days. We know exactly when He died and when He rose by what the witnesses on the road to Emmaus said...

He said he would be in the 'grave' for three days and three nights, as Jonah was in the belly of the whale. He also describe a day as being 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness.
 
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He said he would be in the 'grave' for three days and three nights, as Jonah was in the belly of the fish. He also describe a day as being 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness.

What was the sign? That a dead man was in the grave for 3 days OR that He did not stay there, but rose?!?!?
 
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What was the sign? That a dead man was in the grave for 3 days OR that He did not stay there, but rose?!?!?

Jesus gave one sign. All other signs are false.

Matthew 12:38-40 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

It is implicit that he would arise. The sign was his time in the grave.
 
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There is no biblical support for Jonah being in the belly of the fish for only one and one half days. Jesus also described a day as having 24 hours; 12 hours of daylight, 12 hours of darkness. Three days and three nights is the time frame of the event.

Why did the Ninevites believe...because Yonah was swallowed by a great fish OR that he survived?!?!
What did Yeshua say? "The men of Nineveh will stand at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now One greater than Jonah is here". But as I have said, we know for a fact, because we have witnesses on the road to Emmaus, He died on Friday and rose on Sunday. Adam was created on the 6th day and the 2nd Adam was destroyed on the same day! He rested in the tomb on the Sabbath and then rose on the 1st day! New creation!
 
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Why did the Ninevites believe...because Yonah was swallowed by a great fish OR that he survived?!?!
What did Yeshua say? "The men of Nineveh will stand at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now One greater than Jonah is here". But as I have said, we know for a fact, because we have witnesses on the road to Emmaus, He died on Friday and rose on Sunday. Adam was created on the 6th day and the 2nd Adam was destroyed on the same day! He rested in the tomb on the Sabbath and then rose on the 1st day! New creation!

I have to go with Jesus' statement, which I don't believe can be misinterpreted.
 
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Jesus gave one sign. All other signs are false.

Matthew 12:38-40 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

It is implicit that he would arise. The sign was his time in the grave.

Really? ALL others are false? Why would anyone care that a dead man remained in the grave for 3 days? He said "an EVIL and ADULTEROUS generation seeks a sign. So who was the sign for? He did not give them the endgame...
 
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I have to go with Jesus' statement, which I don't believe can be misinterpreted.

Yes so will I...AND with the eyewitness testimony of the men on the road to Emmaus...BTW, Yeshua did not correct them...
 
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Really? ALL others are false? Why would anyone care that a dead man remained in the grave for 3 days? He said "an EVIL and ADULTEROUS generation seeks a sign. So who was the sign for? He did not give them the endgame...

Why would his resurrection after one and one half days be a...sign, but his resurrection in the time frame that he gave not be?
 
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Why is his resurrection after one and one half days a...sign?

The resurrection was the sign...on the 3rd day...Friday day 1, Saturday day 2 and Sunday Day 3...inclusive counting was used in Judaism. The eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus prove you wrong...
 
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Jesus gave one sign. All other signs are false.

Matthew 12:38-40 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

It is implicit that he would arise. The sign was his time in the grave.
There is no scripture that says Jesus had to be a full literal 72 hours in the grave that interpretation is reading into the scriptures what the scriptures do not say. That is also not how Hebrew reckoning of a day works. There are many scripture examples of "part days" being referred to as "a day".

In Matthew 12:40 for example “three days and nights” is considered to be Hebrew figure of speech referring to any part of three days and nights. This is quite a common practice used within the scriptures.

For example in Esther 4:16; Esther 5:1 “three days and three nights” does not mean 72 hours. For, although they fasted three days and nights (4:16) between the time they started and the time she appeared before the king, the passage states that Esther appeared before the king “on the third day” (5:1). If they began on Friday, then the third day would be Sunday. Hence, “three days and nights” must mean any part of three days and nights.

Also you may want to consider Jesus used the phrase “on the third day” to describe the time of His resurrection after His crucifixion (Matthew 16:21; 17:23; 20:19; 26:61; 1 Corinthians 15:4). But, “on the third day” cannot mean “after three days” which 72 hours demands. On the other hand, the phrase “on the third day” or “three days and nights” can be understood to mean within three days and nights. If you follow the timings through Jesus perfectly fulfilled the prophecy as he died on Nissan 14, rested in the grave on Nissan 15 (Sabbath) and rose sometime on Nissan 16 (first day of the week).

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Yes so will I...AND with the eyewitness testimony of the men on the road to Emmaus...BTW, Yeshua did not correct them...

What does the road to Emmaus event prove?
 
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If you follow the timings through Jesus perfectly fulfilled the prophecy as he died on Nissan 14, rested in the grave on Nissan 15 and rose sometime on Nissan 16 (first day of the week).

Yes, the 14th was Pesakh when the lambs were killed. The 15th, was the weekly Sabbath as well as the 1st day of unleavened bread. The 16th was Yom HaBikkurim, the day the firstfruits barley sheaf was waived! Perfect fulfillment!
 
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What does the road to Emmaus event prove?

Because they said that Sunday was the 3rd day since the events occurred. Friday was day 1, Saturday was day 2 and that day was Sunday, day 3. If they were wrong, don't you think Yeshua would have corrected them? They are there for exactly that reason, as a concrete eyewitness testimony in Judaism.
 
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There is no scripture that says Jesus had to be a full literal 72 hours in the grave that interpretation is reading into the scriptures what the scriptures do not say. That is also not how Hebrew reckoning of a day works. There are many scripture examples of "part days" being referred to as "a day".

In Matthew 12:40 for example “three days and nights” is considered to be Hebrew figure of speech referring to any part of three days and nights. This is quite a common practice used within the scriptures.

For example in Esther 4:16; Esther 5:1 “three days and three nights” does not mean 72 hours. For, although they fasted three days and nights (4:16) between the time they started and the time she appeared before the king, the passage states that Esther appeared before the king “on the third day” (5:1). If they began on Friday, then the third day would be Sunday. Hence, “three days and nights” must mean any part of three days and nights.

Also you may want to consider Jesus used the phrase “on the third day” to describe the time of His resurrection after His crucifixion (Matthew 16:21; 17:23; 20:19; 26:61; 1 Corinthians 15:4). But, “on the third day” cannot mean “after three days” which 72 hours demands. On the other hand, the phrase “on the third day” or “three days and nights” can be understood to mean within three days and nights. If you follow the timings through Jesus perfectly fulfilled the prophecy as he died on Nissan 14, rested in the grave on Nissan 15 (Sabbath) and rose sometime on Nissan 16 (first day of the week).

Blessings

The narrative states that Jesus was arisen on the first day, it doesn't say he rose on the first day.
 
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Luke 24:14-23 (Risen on the third day) so cannot mean a literal 72 hours

At the time the sun goes down it's both the end of one day and the start of the next. Jesus' body had to be put into the grave before the sun went down. If he went into the grave at that exact moment it would have been the end of one day and the beginning of the next. If he arose 72 hours later it would be exactly three days and three nights (give or take a few seconds) fulfilling his sign.
 
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That he arose at sundown of the Sabbath.
Ok, so what day is that? - the third day. Evening to evening is a day in bible time (Genesis 1).
Death of Jesus and Feast days-3.jpg

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