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Why the Hostile Jewish Synagogue Reception?

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That depends on the REASON why I am not being allowed to participate.
I don't agree. Certain private institutions do not have to comply with the civil rights laws. For instance there are still churches who do not allow inter-racial couples in their church and the pastor will not marry an inter-racial couple.
Churches are not places of public accommodations.
 
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I'm getting tired of the pain, the public humiliation and the frustration. With all due respect.
I am not an animal.
No respect given nor expected nor due.

Here's some light reading then:
http://www.biblestudytools.com/history/foxs-book-of-martyrs/
"Summary of the Inquisition
Of the multitudes who perished by the Inquisoition throughout the world, no authentic record is now discoverable......."

That depends on the REASON why I am not being allowed to participate.
No.
It doesn't.
 
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I don't agree. Certain private institutions do not have to compile with the civil rights laws. For instance there are still churches who do not allow inter-racial couples in their church and the pastor will not marry an inter-racial couple.
Churches are not places of public accommodations.
OK! Then if they don't want a harassment report being sent to the local police for the sake of public safety they should refrain from overt threats and gratuitous insults. Otherwise they might garner a local reputation as troublemakers. I would say put up a sign that no non-Jewish people are welcomed. That would also reduce the possibility of provoking the wrong kind of person.
 
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First step learning the truth. Good.
Acts 10:34 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that ...
biblehub.com/acts/10-34.htm.....
God is no respecter of persons
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That doesn't mean that God has no respect for people's feelings. It means that he isn't prejudiced based on race or nationality.

Acts 10:35
New International Version
but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

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I don't imagine God looking on approvingly as I was being treated like garbage.
 
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OK! Then if they don't want a harassment report being sent to the local police for the sake of public safety they should refrain from overt threats and gratuitous insults. Otherwise they might garner a local reputation as troublemakers. I would say put up a sign that no non-Jewish people are welcomed. That would also reduce the possibility of provoking the wrong kind of person.
Why should they have to put up a sign on their private property?
Once you were asked to leave, which you didn't, you were trespassing.

If someone comes to your door and you ask them to leave because you don't let vacuum cleaner salesmen on your property, should you have to put up a sign that says no solicitors or should they just quietly leave?
I doubt very much that there was any threats made until you questioned their rules. If someone at door tells you, you can't come in, you leave. As far as insults go it is not against the law for them to say that your kind is not welcome.
 
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That doesn't mean that God has no respect for people's feelings.
Respect feelings?! No. YHWH doesn't.
Better not.
GALATIANS 5:24 KJV "And they that are Christ's have crucified ...
Galatians 5:24 KJV: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. King James ... flesh because they have crucified their lusts.
kingjamesbibleonline.org/Galatians-5-24/

1 Corinthians 2:2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was ...
1 Corinthians 2:2 Parallel Verses. New International Version For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
 
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That will prevent the possible provocation of someone who might not like to be pushed around in the manner I was and might just decide to waste a couple of them by blowing their Jewish heads clean off their Jewish shoulders.

Your respect for Jewish people is noted. It is a good thing the security saw through you.
 
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Why should they have to put up a sign on their private property?
Once you were asked to leave, which you didn't, you were trespassing.

If someone comes to your door and you ask them to leave because you don't let vacuum cleaner salesmen on your property, should you have to put up a sign that says no solicitors or should they just quietly leave?
I doubt very much that there was any threats made until you questioned their rules. If someone at door tells you, you can't come in, you leave. As far as insults go it is not against the law for them to say that your kind is not welcome.
First, there were two conflicting messages sent. The first was the man inside the Synagogue whom I asked if I could attend gesturing me to pass. Reluctantly yes, but he did not object. Then there was this behemoth Germanic looking Jew who suddenly appeared from the left and began with his diatribe followed by the security guard jumping in and demanding that I leave.

So if there was a slight hesitation it was based on that confusing sequence of events.

It was also based on the confusion of being accused of things I am not guilty of. Such as being there to harass Jews. A slight hesitation was was also based on whether the Hitlerian looking fellow fellow had the authority to prevent me passage since he is obviously NOT the Rabbi but just a member. Had the Rabbi himself demanded it without all the unnecessary, unjustifiable, totally imbecilic accusations, then yes the response would have been immediate.

Also, if the pontificating, Lebensborn-derived Germanic Hitlerian looking Jew had stopped his silly hysterical jabbering as I started to leave, then I would not have halted two times to respond.

So you see, if you were not there then you should refrain from your enthusiastic support of my being treated like trash. Maybe you should be treated the same way when trying to enter a place of worship. That should sober you up a bit from striving to add insult to my injury..

In any case-I have had enough from you. Bye!
 
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First, there were two conflicting messages sent. The first was the man inside the Synagogue whom I asked if I could attend gesturing me to pass. Reluctantly yes, but he did not object. Then there was this behemoth Germanic looking Jew who suddenly appeared from the left and began with his diatribe followed by the security guard jumping in and demanding that I leave.

So if there was a slight hesitation it was based on that confusing sequence of events.

It was also based on the confusion of being accused of things I am not guilty of. Such as being there to harass Jews. A slight hesitation was was also based on whether the Hitlerian looking fellow fellow had the authority to prevent me passage since he is obviously NOT the Rabbi but just a member. Had the Rabbi himself demanded it without all the unnecessary, unjustifiable, totally imbecilic accusations, then yes the response would have been immediate.

Also, if the pontificating, Lebensborn-derived Germanic Hitlerian looking Jew had stopped his silly hysterical jabbering as I started to leave, then I would not have halted two times to respond.

So you see, if you were not there then you should refrain from your enthusiastic support of my being treated like trash. Maybe you should be treated the same way when trying to enter a place of worship. That should sober you up a bit from striving to add insult to my injury..

In any case-I have had enough from you. Bye!

I am certain all you wanted to do is fellowship. That is why there all the Nazi, Hitler, and “Blowing Jewish heads off” in your posts.
 
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Your respect for Jewish people is noted. It is a good thing the security saw through you.
I am merely pointing out that some people might not react with the restraint and patience I displayed under abuse.
It doesn't mean that I approve of it or suggest that reaction. But it is good that you bring it to my attention because I certainly don't want to convey the wrong impression. No, the security guard cannot read my heart because if he had he would only have detected a person who was sincerely seeking truth via the Jewish faith and nothing more. So you are wrong. When we are angered we sometimes say foolish things we don't really mean. So my apologies if I have offended. Will edit the offensive parts out.
 
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I am certain all you wanted to do is fellowship. That is why there all the Nazi, Hitler, and “Blowing Jewish heads off” in your posts.
You are totally misrepresenting what I said. I am merely pointing out that such an abusive attitude can lead some people who are disposed to violence to react that way. I would never do so and if I saw someone about to attack ANY Jewish PERSON I WOULD DO EVERYTHIG WITHIN MY POWER TO STOP HIM EVEN AT THE COST OF SUFFERING INJURY MYSELF.
 
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I am certain all you wanted to do is fellowship. That is why there all the Nazi, Hitler, and “Blowing Jewish heads off” in your posts.
The ones behaving like Gestapo agents were them not me. You have the whole thing backwards. My expressions are those of a person who has been humiliated in public and threatened with violence via aggressive body language. If you can't understand how that feels at the entrance of a place of worship you intended to respectfully attend then I don't have a problem-you do.

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If Jewish persons don't want to be viewed negatively then they have to be careful on how they treat others. Respect is a mutual thing and disrespect tends to engender disrespect. I am sure that they learn that basic fact in their Torah.
 
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The ones behaving like Gestapo agents were them not me. You have the whole thing backwards. My expressions are those of a person who has been humiliated in public and threatened with violence via aggressive body language. If you can't understand how that feels at the entrance of a place of worship you intended to respectfully attend then I don't have a problem-you do.

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If Jewish persons don't want to be viewed negatively then they have to be careful on how they treat others. Respect is a mutual thing and disrespect tends to engender disrespect. I am sure that they learn that basic fact in their Torah.

There are plenty of authoritarian security forces to pull from. KGB, Stasi, SAVAK, GRU and yet you keep going to the Nazi Gestapo references in regards to Jews.
 
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There are plenty of authoritarian security forces to pull from. KGB, Stasi, SAVAK, GRU and yet you keep going to the Nazi Gestapo references in regards to Jews.
Because the memory of that horrendous holocaust. historical experience should have them be more compassionate to others and not imitate such cruel behavior. That is why I use the Gestapo as a comparison. It is called situational irony. I can't even begin to imagine what exactly it is that you think I meant.
 
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Well, I guess that partially explains it. Maybe they should put up a sign outside the Synagogue so that ignorant trusting people like me don't accidental walk into a buzz-saw of hatred while merely seeking another possible way to God. For a horrifying moment there, I felt as if I was in NAZI Germany being hounded by the Gestapo or a group of Hitler's Brown Shirts.

Both the security guard and the Jewish behemoth who suddenly appeared from my right at the synagogue entrance demanding that I leave physically resembled Nordic type Germans.
So when he barked "Your kind!" it came across as racist since I am of the southern European physical type.

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Isn't that violation of my USA civil rights? I think I will follow this up with litigation.
Believe me, if you had really been hounded by German nazi brown shirts or gestapo, you would certainly know the difference in not being allowed to enter a Jewish synagogue, no matter how horribly they treated you.

BTW, that's a good idea to kick this synagogue in the teeth. Oh and do it in the name of Jesus.
 
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Is there not a telephone number? Did you not call beforehand and ask when would be a good time to schedule visit? Or did you just show up unannounced on a day that Jews spend totally removed from the secular world and do not engage with anything except God, Torah and Family?
 
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Believe me, if you had really been hounded by German nazi brown shirts or gestapo, you would certainly know the difference in not being allowed to enter a Jewish synagogue, no matter how horribly they treated you.

BTW, that's a good idea to kick this synagogue in the teeth. Oh and do it in the name of Jesus.

I know that the Gestapo and Brown shirts would have treated me even worse.

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I am not attempting to kick the synagogue in the teeth in Jesus' name. However, I am very certain that YHWH does not approve of such comportment toward a person who was there with no evil intentions and that Jesus doesn't approve of it either. Perhaps it all happened for a good reason and I am better off. As they say, God works in mysterious ways.
 
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