Why the Fathers did not leave any remains or fossils

[Bungle_Bear]

Your posts don't leave many remains either

You sure about that? I suspect you have as little idea about the internet as you do about every other piece of science.

 

[dad]

You sure about that? I suspect you have as little idea about the internet as you do about every other piece of science.

And pigs can fly?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

And pigs can fly?

In reality they cannot. But idioms and allegory are another thing you demonstrably struggle with.

 

[dad]

In reality they cannot. But idioms and allegory are another thing you demonstrably struggle with.

In reality, the bible says men lived over 9 centuries in the past. No remains are found from the time of the fathers. Not of man or beast. I do not struggle with that at all. I simply asked why. If you claim the years given for people's lives are some sort of idiom or allegory, you would not be demonstrating intellectual integrity.
Was it also an idiom that God told Adam he would return to dust? Was it an allegory that Noah released actual birds to search for plants?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Was it also an idiom that God told Adam he would return to dust? Was it an allegory that Noah released actual birds to search for plants?

Yes.

 

[dad]

Yes.

OK, so we have an agnostic opinion on Scripture.

 

[SLP]

God told Adam that he would return to dust. Modern man does not do that, his remains decay slowly. From a bible perspective, we could assume that pre-flood man would have left no remains other than dust. We can also deduce that man would not have been in the fossil record although he was living on earth.

Cool cop out.
Typical...

 

[BobRyan]

Problem: There are NO bones for most animals and man from the beginning.

why do you claim that?

I would argue that a great many dinosaurs are from the 1600 year period before the flood.

I don't argue that dinosaure bones don't exist.

 

[dad]

why do you claim that?

I would argue that a great many dinosaurs are from the 1600 year period before the flood.

I don't argue that dinosaure bones don't exist.

Dinos are not man and most animals. They were one of the creatures that could leave remains.

 

[dad]

Cool cop out.
Typical...

Thanks.

 

[Jimmy D]

Dinos are not man and most animals. They were one of the creatures that could leave remains.

So "dino" and human remains have different qualities/make up that allow one to undergo fossilization and not the other? Can you elaborate?

 

[SLP]

"Why the Fathers did not leave any remains or fossils"

Because they weren't real.

 

[pleinmont]

What the Bible has to say on the topic should be dismissed as not credible, especially as bones and fossils dating back millions of years have been discovered.

 

[dad]

So "dino" and human remains have different qualities/make up that allow one to undergo fossilization and not the other? Can you elaborate?

I never said that. No one is talking about what human remains are like here. The issue is what nature was like back in the time when humans could not apparently leave remains. The reasons are not related to what remains are like now!

 

[dad]

"Why the Fathers did not leave any remains or fossils"

Because they weren't real.

You know this how?

 

[dad]

What the Bible has to say on the topic should be dismissed as not credible, especially as bones and fossils dating back millions of years have been discovered.

The way dates are derived is no longer credible. They simply assume ratios of isotopes all got here by processes involving the current nature.

 

[Jimmy D]

The issue is what nature was like back in the time when humans could not apparently leave remains. The reasons are not related to what remains are like now!

No, I think the issue is with your overactive imagination.

 

[dad]

No, I think the issue is with your overactive imagination.

However, the evidence tells us that most animals and man are not in the early record. No imagination required. The bible tells us that we were there the same week as other life on earth. All written in black and white. I notice the Almighty Personally told the first man that he would be returning to the dust from which he came. It occurs to me that fossils do not come from a spoonful of dust.
We do know that in the present age, nature works another way. Connecting the dots it seems that a difference exists between that time and today...despite your imagination.

 

[Jimmy D]

However, the evidence tells us that most animals and man are not in the early record

Correct, so any rational person would conclude that they weren’t around at that time, rather than making baseless claims about some sort of magical fantasy world where nothing is as it seems.

 

[dad]

Correct, so any rational person would conclude that they weren’t around at that time, rather than making baseless claims about some sort of magical fantasy world where nothing is as it seems.

The garden of Eden is not here now if you notice? So how could anything about it seem to be any way? Noah is not here now. How could you say it seems to you he never saw a tree leaf a week after the bird returned with no fresh evidence of any tree?
How would you expect that remains of creatures that rapidly were disposed of in a time long gone would 'seem' a certain way to you now?