Why the different reactions?

[Landon Caeli]

Being black may have sped up the firing and charging process as well.

Probably the video that showed them kicking him in the head, and beating him with a rod while Nichols was on the ground had something to do with it... I watched the video.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Don't worry, I'm sure plenty of black people will get killed by the police in 2024.

It's not just black people. I saw a white person get shot once for not following exactly what the cops scream.

...Some people are just naturally incapable of following directions. They can't help it.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I think with some people, their emotions become so overwhelmed by fear, that their minds stop hearing, and they are left incapable of following directions.

...It's either that, or sheer stubbornness. I need someone to help figure this out.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Lol.. I know huh. Back when George Floyd was killed .. not long after that I watched this interview and this black man was tossing out names of white people killed by police one was exactly like what happened to George Floyd. He gave the mans name and was asking what you are now. Yeah it oddly never made the news no riots no the man killed by police didn't turn into some angel. Kind a like a site giving rules for one person yet oddly not for others.

My white brethren are welcome to protest police brutality, too. That they're more likely to quietly accept this brutality suggests a few things about them, none of which are flattering.

 

[Landon Caeli]

My white brethren are welcome to protest police brutality, too. That they're more likely to quietly accept this brutality suggests a few things about them, none of which are flattering.

It's a broken system. It's archaic.

...One day it will be fixed, and future generations will look back on our time as barbaric.

I mean, first of all, why use *painful* stun-gun's rather than feel-good tranquilizers? Also, why are the cops always in a hurry? They say things like "down on the ground "NOW". They say "put your hands behind your back, right NOW", instead of "I'm terribly sorry sir, but would you please mind helping yourself into the back seat of my car, were going to get you some food and something to drink as soon as we arrive at the office, to make your experience as pleasant as possible."?

...And then when someone runs away, they start chasing after them all angry and mad.

 

[RDKirk]

Suggesting police in this country are as dangerous and unpredictable as a wild animal is perhaps the most scathing indictment on the police force I have ever seen.

When I was a kid (with the murder of Emmett Till still ringing in the ears of black parents) we were taught to treat all white people that way.

Now...just the cops.

Progress.

 

[ozso]

Suggesting police in this country are as dangerous and unpredictable as a wild animal is perhaps the most scathing indictment on the police force I have ever seen.

Not all of them, but obviously there are police officers who are dangerous.

 

[ozso]

Probably the video that showed them kicking him in the head, and beating him with a rod while Nichols was on the ground had something to do with it... I watched the video.

That and probably realizing they needed to act swiftly to defuse the situation as best as they could.

 

[timothyu]

Not all of them, but obviously there are police officers who are dangerous.

Obviously as many with poor self esteem seek a position which allows power tripping in order to compensate, be it cop, politician, drug lord or religious entity. No one ever addresses the connection of some cops to organized crime and their possible use as enforcers.,

 

[Occams Barber]

Don't worry, I'm sure plenty of black people will get killed by the police in 2024.

I suspect the US has two overlapping problems - a police force which is inordinately inclined to kill civilians of any race or colour (see below) combined with an ingrained racial bias.

Combine this with internalised racism, where people have a bias against their own minority group, and you have a perfect storm.

What Is Internalized Racism?

Legendary singer Michael Jackson can be cited in this regard, as he went through a string of plastic surgeries during his lifetime to transform his facial features from “Afrocentric” to “Eurocentric,” a classic sign of internalized racism.

www.ibtimes.com

Not just “a few bad apples”: U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries

Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.

www.prisonpolicy.org

 

[variant]

I just wonder if these guys had any training. They acted like a pack of demon possessed ravenous wolves. I thought they took an oath to serve and to protect. Some protection that was. IMHO too many people are losing their lives in traffic stops by police.

Perhaps not enough proper training, and a little too much of the improper kind. This isn't a "training" issue though it's a culture issue, you can't get to what happened without a culture that covers for more minor cases of police brutality, teaches them to act like this, and doesn't value the lives and livelihoods of the people they are interacting with.

Still, just about everything I saw in that video was as unprofessional as I've seen. If they were trained to do that I have no words.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Your Blackness will not stop us from fighting you. These five cops not only disgraced their names, they disgraced our race. ~ Al Sharpton

 

[RDKirk]

I suspect the US has two overlapping problems - a police force which is inordinately inclined to kill civilians of any race or colour (see below) combined with an ingrained racial bias.

Combine this with internalised racism, where people have a bias against their own minority group, and you have a perfect storm.

What Is Internalized Racism?

Legendary singer Michael Jackson can be cited in this regard, as he went through a string of plastic surgeries during his lifetime to transform his facial features from “Afrocentric” to “Eurocentric,” a classic sign of internalized racism.

www.ibtimes.com

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Not just “a few bad apples”: U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries

Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.

www.prisonpolicy.org

I've shown in other threads that police in the US can be cavalier in killing whites as well as blacks. That's a whole problem in itself, and it puzzles me that white people don't get upset about police unjustly killing white people (although on the gun forums, gun owners are starting to acknowledge the dissonance of their cognizance).

 

[RDKirk]

Perhaps not enough proper training, and a little too much of the improper kind. This isn't a "training" issue though it's a culture issue, you can't get to what happened without a culture that covers for more minor cases of police brutality, teaches them to act like this, and doesn't value the lives and livelihoods of the people they are interacting with.

Still, just about everything I saw in that video was as unprofessional as I've seen. If they were trained to do that I have no words.

That's something I've noticed different from the miltary. In the military, when you have a screw-up, the military takes definite steps to train people not to screw up that way again. The Air Force will ground all planes until the training is completed. In the Navy, they will even halt every ship at sea dead in the water all at once to have them give such training to all sailors, and the ship isn't allowed to get back underway until the captain verifies that every sailor has gotten the new training.

Police forces in the US seem never to acknowledge a training issue. They will always chalk an error up to the particular circumstances of that situation and never look at how a change in training could avoid similar incidents in the future.

 

[variant]

I've shown in other threads that police in the US can be cavalier in killing whites as well as blacks. That's a whole problem in itself, and it puzzles me that white people don't get upset about police unjustly killing white people (although on the gun forums, gun owners are starting to acknowledge the dissonance of their cognizance).

I think we should be more irritated that it happens to anyone, and those facts should make it more of a priority for white people who have tended to side with the police more on this issue.

With the black community though it is always going to be connected to a long history of violence against that community in particular.

Thankfully the solutions are the same whether the victim is white or black.

 

[variant]

That's something I've noticed different from the miltary. In the military, when you have a screw-up, the military takes definite steps to train people not to screw up that way again. The Air Force will ground all planes until the training is completed. In the Navy, they will even halt every ship at sea dead in the water all at once to have them give such training to all sailors, and the ship isn't allowed to get back underway until the captain verifies that every sailor has gotten the new training.

Police forces in the US seem never to acknowledge a training issue. They will always chalk an error up to the particular circumstances of that situation and never look at how a change in training could avoid similar incidents in the future.

Wow.

I'd never been made aware of that or thought about it that way.

So, I guess under these very specific terms I would be in full support of a militarization of the police...

:Mind blown:

The post you quoted did indicate that I think it's a bit more than just a training issue though.

 

[variant]

Not all of them, but obviously there are police officers who are dangerous.

More problematically: Unlike the grisly bear, you can't tell which of them are dangerous until they start to act.

 

[ozso]

More problematically: Unlike the grisly bear, you can't tell which of them are dangerous until they start to act.

Exactly.

 

[variant]

Exactly.

I for one then would like those people I should have to treat like dangerous animals watched carefully for any harmful activity and there to be no tolerance in the system that employs them for bad action.

If I have to treat any interaction with them like I am dealing with a grizzly bear, their bosses ought to be responsible for letting them roam around free when they act like one.

 

[Hank77]

That's something I've noticed different from the miltary. In the military, when you have a screw-up, the military takes definite steps to train people not to screw up that way again. The Air Force will ground all planes until the training is completed. In the Navy, they will even halt every ship at sea dead in the water all at once to have them give such training to all sailors, and the ship isn't allowed to get back underway until the captain verifies that every sailor has gotten the new training.

Police forces in the US seem never to acknowledge a training issue. They will always chalk an error up to the particular circumstances of that situation and never look at how a change in training could avoid similar incidents in the future.

According to Jim Jordon yesterday on Meet the Press, no amount of training or new laws can fix this kind of evil.