Why Should Women not be Permitted to go Topless in Public?

[Tallguy88]

Gracious. I was doing the opposite of talking down to you by addressing you as mister. It's just faster than writing out Tallguy88 & to me it feels more sincere cause obviously that's not your real name. It's really common where I live for ppl to address strangers as mister or lady, & there's not disrespect to it. I get addressed as young lady all the time, & it's pretty rare for it to be meant as talking down to me. It would be different if somebody who actually knew my name addressed me that way. But now that I know you don't like it, I won't do it.

Must be a cultural difference. Around here, people aren't usually referred to as just "mister". Mr Last Name is fine in appropriate situations. But just Mister or Lady sounds condescending. Sir or Ma'am would be fine. But I'm not old enough or respectable enough to be a sir.

Sorry if I misinterpreted you.

Well I agree that is has to do with intent and knowledge and social situations. A bunch of ppl have already said here that most women who want the right to be topless are only wanting that right in the same settings where men have long had the right to be topless, like at the beach. The 1st few people to break from the norm can be scandalous, then it becomes the norm. 100 yrs ago it was scandalous for men to walk around on beaches topless. Everybody had to wear suits down to their knees. Now it's normal for men to be topless. Do you think it's scandalous for males to be topless at a beach? You said b4 that it's wrong to make others lustful & cause them to stumble. What about the fact that to many straight women & gay men, a man's chest can be just as sexually attractive as a lady's boobs? Do you think all beaches that don't allow girls & women to be topless should also not allow boys & men to be topless for the same principle?

Yep.

I think it would depend on the beach and what it's dress policy is. As long as it's clearly marked, then people can't be chided for dressing within the limits. Similarly, people wouldn't be able to say "I don't want to see that!" when they should have known what is allowed at that particular beach.

I'm not sure about publicly owned pools and beaches, but private beaches and pools can set whatever dress code they want, even if it is a double standard.

 

[Tallguy88]

Lol. It's a win/win to you. Not to the women who want the same rights as men. And since there's no actual downside to women's nipples being exposed on the beach, I say let them do what they want. Honestly, I couldn't care less where or when anyone is topless. Because I wasn't born a Puritan in the 1600's...

Wouldn't you be worried about gawkers and voyeurs?

 

[Murby]

I've often resented the fact that, when it hits 35 degrees Celsius or more, if the setting allows, my husband can remove his shirt to cool off, but I can't.

I would absolutely do it if I didn't know it would cause complete chaos, but because of cultural norms, and because I know that the results of me doing so would be extremely uncomfortable, I don't. So I sweat instead.

Because once again, women are held responsible for not causing men to sin, but the opposite doesn't apply. Women have to take responsibility for their own lust.

That's worth quoting just for the sake of seeing it again.. (and I hit the like button on post you made)

 

[Butterfly99]

Must be a cultural difference. Around here, people aren't usually referred to as just "mister". Mr Last Name is fine in appropriate situations. But just Mister or Lady sounds condescending. Sir or Ma'am would be fine. But I'm not old enough or respectable enough to be a sir.

Sorry if I misinterpreted you.

Yep, it's definitely a cultural thing. + you can't hear tone on here like you can irl. No worries, it's all good.

I think it would depend on the beach and what it's dress policy is. As long as it's clearly marked, then people can't be chided for dressing within the limits. Similarly, people wouldn't be able to say "I don't want to see that!" when they should have known what is allowed at that particular beach.

I'm not sure about publicly owned pools and beaches, but private beaches and pools can set whatever dress code they want, even if it is a double standard.

At most beaches & public pools in America males can be topless. At most women cannot. Do you think that's a double standard? Idk that ppl not wanting to see something is a reason for it to not be allowed. I mean think about how many ppl there are who judge others cause of their age, race, weight, fitness, etc. A lot of ppl would say they don't want to see a hairy out of shape man in a Speedo at the beach, but I think he should be allowed to wear it if he pleases.

 

[Murby]

Wouldn't you be worried about gawkers and voyeurs?

May I comment here? Why would you, or anyone else (including me) give two cents about what other people think?

If the actions or behaviors of others can't be quantified as harmful or beneficial, then those actions are irrelevant to all other things.

This is what parents mean when they teach their children "Sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt you".. It's an important concept for kids to learn and carry with them into adulthood.

 

[Archivist]

Why? They are already equally shirtless?

No they are not equally shirtless. The man is topless. The woman is required to wear a top. Not equal.

You're passing beyond the realm of practical into the realm of unnecessary. You're pushing "equality" too far.

Nonsense. I'm proposing what is commonplace in much of the world.

The ethics have been satisfied with an inexpensive bikini style cotton swim top.

And the ethics could be truely satisfied by allowing both to go topless.

We have a win/win situation, with no PRACTICAL down-side, for those who are looking for a solution to a problem.

And just what is the downside of allowing both male and female to go topless?

 

[FreeinChrist]

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