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Why seek "God"?

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the unknown has to do with the right hemisphere of the brain. curiosity has to do with a very old and fundamental part of the brain. mystery and revelation are two sides of the same coin.
 
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The infinite wisdom of Allah must have sent an angel to visit Muhammad, and you must simply believe in wonder, even though we can't verify it ... right?

I know absolutely nothing of Muhammad or Islam, nothing.
so there is nothing to wonder over.
 
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I know absolutely nothing of Muhammad or Islam, nothing.
so there is nothing to wonder over.

yet you bring up some angel that visited someone as an example. ananda could just say 'I know absolutely nothing of this person or angels, nothing. so there is nothing to wonder over.'
 
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yet you bring up some angel that visited someone as an example. ananda could just say 'I know absolutely nothing of this person or angels, nothing. so there is nothing to wonder over.'

Yeah, I do get it.
 
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yet you bring up some angel that visited someone as an example. ananda could just say 'I know absolutely nothing of this person or angels, nothing. so there is nothing to wonder over.'

Correct, I gave an example, "If someone told you they had an angel visit"
Up to yet, no one has told me that, muslim or otherwise.

Do you get it.

Ananda was on about people telling of their experiences, she would have to verify.

That`s what it is about.

So just how Muhammaad came into the picture,
you tell me.
 
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So just how Muhammaad came into the picture,
you tell me.

You seemed to be implying that ananda should just take people's word for it when they make extraordinary claims. so ananda gave you an extraordinary claim made by muslims and asked if you would just 'take their word for it'.
 
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You seemed to be implying that ananda should just take people's word for it when they make extraordinary claims. so ananda gave you an extraordinary claim made by muslims and asked if you would just 'take their word for it'.

Post #301,
ananda was talking about peoples experiences,

In any case if one were to encounter an angel and not drop dead of fright,
one should never tell of it.
 
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In any case if one were to encounter an angel and not drop dead of fright,
one should never tell of it.
In the Bible people often fall on their face when they meet an angel, but I always thought it was not fear but an instinctual expression of worship or reverence when in the presence of holiness. The angel always tells the person to get up, presumably because worship should be reserved for God.

Also, why should a person not tell of meeting an angel? The prophets told about meeting angels. I would tell people if I saw an angel - even though nobody would believe me. LOL
 
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In the Bible people often fall on their face when they meet an angel, but I always thought it was not fear but an instinctual expression of worship or reverence when in the presence of holiness. The angel always tells the person to get up, presumably because worship should be reserved for God.

Also, why should a person not tell of meeting an angel? The prophets told about meeting angels. I would tell people if I saw an angel - even though nobody would believe me. LOL

When the angel of death does his rounds,
there is no "Get up" it is curtains.

If you touched a 40,000 volt cabel,
would there not be a difference in appearance?
 
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Does it make sense to say: Because we struggle between good and evil, therefore I brush my teeth?

Or, is it more reasonable to say: because I experience dukkha (dissatisfaction) in many ways if I don't, therefore I brush my teeth?

An alleged Jesus allegedly saves people ... from what?

if we remove good and evil, love and hatred, as well as willingness and unwillingness, what will remain?!, of course nothing, because it must be some kind of full death if it is neither willingness nor unwillingness, neither good/love nor evil/hatred - some kind of non-existence/non-life/unconsciousness, and this is how/why dukkha is dumb

Jesus Christ has saved many demon-possessed people by having cast the devils out of them, many sick/invalids by having healed them of their diseases/invalidisms, many dead by having resurrected them, and many people concerned by having made them be(come) good/righteous, while buddhism has made many people believe that the significant difference is ostensibly between having willingness/unwillingness and not having willingness/unwillingness, while it is really between good and evil

Blessings
 
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if we remove good and evil, love and hatred, as well as willingness and unwillingness, what will remain?!, of course nothing, because it must be some kind of full death if it is neither willingness nor unwillingness, neither good/love nor evil/hatred - some kind of non-existence/non-life/unconsciousness, and this is how/why dukkha is dumb
What remains is bliss and peace. This is my direct experience.

Jesus Christ has saved many demon-possessed people by having cast the devils out of them, many sick/invalids by having healed them of their diseases/invalidisms, many dead by having resurrected them, and many people concerned by having made them be(come) good/righteous, while buddhism has made many people believe that the significant difference is ostensibly between having willingness/unwillingness and not having willingness/unwillingness, while it is really between good and evil
I haven't met Jesus Christ.
 
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When the angel of death does his rounds,
there is no "Get up" it is curtains.

If you touched a 40,000 volt cabel,
would there not be a difference in appearance?
Here is something interesting I found on a Jewish website. It's a different perspective on angels meeting humans.
Notwithstanding the great spiritual level of the angels, the holiness of the Jewish soul supersedes that of the angel. Only the Jewish soul has the ability to descend to this physical and corporeal world and refine and elevate it.16 For the human's divine soul is a "veritable piece of G‑d Above," a "piece" of the Creator; as opposed to the angels which are creations—albeit very holy ones.
What Are Angels?
 
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Here is something interesting I found on a Jewish website. It's a different perspective on angels meeting humans.

What Are Angels?

The Torah was taken from the angels.
When Moses ascended to heaven,
the angels protested to God,
"What is a human being doing amongst us?"

Said He to them, "He has come to recieve the Torah."
Said they to Him,
"The esotoric treasure, which was hidden with You for nine hundred and seventy
four generations before the World was created.
You wish to give to flesh and blood?

What is man, that You are mindful of him,
and the son of man. that, You take notice of him?

Said Moses, "Master of the universe, this Torah You are giving me, what is written in it?

"I am the Lord your God, who has taken you out from the land of Egypt."

"What else does it say?"

"Remember the Shabbat day
do you work?"

"What else does it say?"
"Do not swear falsely,
do you do buisness?"

"What else does it say?
"Honour your father and mother,
do you have parents?"

"What else does it say?"
"You shall have no other gods,
do you dwell amongst idol-worshiping nations?"

"What else?"
"Do not murder,
do not commit adultery,
do not steal,
is there jealousy among you ?"
Do you have an evil inclination?

(on hearing this the angels)
Sraight away the angels conceded to God........and each one was moved to befriend Moses and transmit something to him,

Even the angel of Death too confided his secret to him.
 
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there is more, but it is very late and I want to go to bed. :)
Place Your glory upon the heavens! (Psalms 8:2-5)

Said God to Moses, "Answer them."
Said Moses "Master of the universe! I fear lest they consume me with the breath of
their mouths."
Said God to Moses, "Hold onto the Throne of Glory, and return them an answer."

"Have you descended to Egypt?" Asked Moses of the angels.
"Have you been enslaved to Pharaoh??
"So why should the Torah be yours`"
 
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What remains is bliss and peace. This is my direct experience.

I haven't met Jesus Christ.

and isn't that bliss and peace some kind of good?!, isn't it somehow unobjectionable and acceptable to you?!, so this is how there is ultimately some kind of willingness in you, because if there was sorrow/depression and frustration/distress in you instead of bliss and peace, you wouldn't be fully contented and there would be some unwillingness in you - even the fact that you accept or don't reject that bliss and peace indicates that there is some kind of willingness in you, so dukkha is a fallacy, and it is certain that satan misleads worshipers believing in dukkha, because every misbelief is a scheme of satan, for here is how worshipers have missed realizing the perfect truth of/about overall salvation in the true Lord God by following such (sets of) religious beliefs as the so-called dukkha...

however, thank the true God, there is a repentance

Blessings
 
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There is no "the god" of Buddhists. We perceive no supreme, eternal, intelligent deity. I see no need why a supreme deity would need worship. Have you observed your deity yourself?
the supreme deity is not in need to worship
you worship the god of the universe because you need the salvation and the salvation cannot be attend but through believing in god the one..he is not in need to be worshipped we are in need to worship the lord of the world the god of the universe..
so whom do you worship god the one or many deities????
 
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