Why Old Earth creationism doesn't work

[Job 33:6]

Does modern science confirm earth sitting on pillars?
If not Why would the sure Word of God say pillars are
holding up a flat earth, modeled after/like heathen nations?

Psa 75:2 When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly.
Psa 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved:
I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

The word Selah means to pause and contemplate, and its
wise to check other scriptures related, if any available.

Psa 75:2-3 sounds like a future event,
not past Ancient near east cosmology.
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For the pillars of the earth are the LORD's,
And he hath set the world upon them. 1 Samuel 2:8

The pillarsH5982
H5982
עַמֻּד עַמּוּד
‛ammûd ‛ammûd
am-mood', am-mood'
From H5975; a column (as standing); also a stand, that is, platform:
- X apiece, pillar.
Total KJV occurrences: 111

H5975
עָמַד
‛âmad
aw-mad'
A primitive root; to stand, in various relations (literally
and figuratively, intransitively and transitively)........
Total KJV occurrences: 521

The word pillar can be used literally and/or figuratively.

2 a: a supporting, integral, or upstanding member
or part a pillar of society
-

Jesus is "upholding all things by the word of his power" Hebrews 1:3.

Isaiah 9:6 says "the government shall be upon his shoulder: and
his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

"All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my
God, and they will never have to leave it..." Revelation 3:12
-

If you still believe the Bible supports earth sitting on physical pillars,
then that would conflict with other scriptures, like recorded in Job 26:7.

"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
"And hangeth the earth upon nothing."

Isaac Newton posed the theory of gravity, Job said it long before that.

Job 26:7 Commentaries: "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing.

"a very remarkable instance of anticipation of the discoveries of science'

"Over the empty place - על־תהוּ ‛al-tôhû, "Upon emptiness, or nothing."
That is, without anything to support it.

He hanged the earth on nothing, by creating gravity.

Gravity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Bible, and science agree earth is Suspended in Space,
and not your interpretation of actual sitting on pillers.

‭‭Psalms‬ ‭75:1‭-‬3‬ ‭NRSVUE‬‬
[1] We give thanks to you, O God; we give thanks; your name is near. People tell of your wondrous deeds. [2] At the set time that I appoint, I will judge with equity. [3] When the earth totters, with all its inhabitants, it is I who keep its pillars steady. Selah

This is obviously another reference to ancient cosmology. I'm not sure what you're trying to say about this one

 

[Job 33:6]

Does modern science confirm earth sitting on pillars?
If not Why would the sure Word of God say pillars are
holding up a flat earth, modeled after/like heathen nations?

Psa 75:2 When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly.
Psa 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved:
I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

The word Selah means to pause and contemplate, and its
wise to check other scriptures related, if any available.

Psa 75:2-3 sounds like a future event,
not past Ancient near east cosmology.
-

For the pillars of the earth are the LORD's,
And he hath set the world upon them. 1 Samuel 2:8

The pillarsH5982
H5982
עַמֻּד עַמּוּד
‛ammûd ‛ammûd
am-mood', am-mood'
From H5975; a column (as standing); also a stand, that is, platform:
- X apiece, pillar.
Total KJV occurrences: 111

H5975
עָמַד
‛âmad
aw-mad'
A primitive root; to stand, in various relations (literally
and figuratively, intransitively and transitively)........
Total KJV occurrences: 521

The word pillar can be used literally and/or figuratively.

2 a: a supporting, integral, or upstanding member
or part a pillar of society
-

Jesus is "upholding all things by the word of his power" Hebrews 1:3.

Isaiah 9:6 says "the government shall be upon his shoulder: and
his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

"All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my
God, and they will never have to leave it..." Revelation 3:12
-

If you still believe the Bible supports earth sitting on physical pillars,
then that would conflict with other scriptures, like recorded in Job 26:7.

"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
"And hangeth the earth upon nothing."

Isaac Newton posed the theory of gravity, Job said it long before that.

Job 26:7 Commentaries: "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing.

"a very remarkable instance of anticipation of the discoveries of science'

"Over the empty place - על־תהוּ ‛al-tôhû, "Upon emptiness, or nothing."
That is, without anything to support it.

He hanged the earth on nothing, by creating gravity.

Gravity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Bible, and science agree earth is Suspended in Space,
and not your interpretation of actual sitting on pillers.

This video talks about the concept of "nothing" or Tohu in Hebrew.

 

[d taylor]

Does modern science confirm earth sitting on pillars?
If not Why would the sure Word of God say pillars are
holding up a flat earth, modeled after/like heathen nations?

Psa 75:2 When I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly.
Psa 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved:
I bear up the pillars of it. Selah.

The word Selah means to pause and contemplate, and its
wise to check other scriptures related, if any available.

Psa 75:2-3 sounds like a future event,
not past Ancient near east cosmology.
-

For the pillars of the earth are the LORD's,
And he hath set the world upon them. 1 Samuel 2:8

The pillarsH5982
H5982
עַמֻּד עַמּוּד
‛ammûd ‛ammûd
am-mood', am-mood'
From H5975; a column (as standing); also a stand, that is, platform:
- X apiece, pillar.
Total KJV occurrences: 111

H5975
עָמַד
‛âmad
aw-mad'
A primitive root; to stand, in various relations (literally
and figuratively, intransitively and transitively)........
Total KJV occurrences: 521

The word pillar can be used literally and/or figuratively.

2 a: a supporting, integral, or upstanding member
or part a pillar of society
-

Jesus is "upholding all things by the word of his power" Hebrews 1:3.

Isaiah 9:6 says "the government shall be upon his shoulder: and
his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

"All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my
God, and they will never have to leave it..." Revelation 3:12
-

If you still believe the Bible supports earth sitting on physical pillars,
then that would conflict with other scriptures, like recorded in Job 26:7.

"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
"And hangeth the earth upon nothing."

Isaac Newton posed the theory of gravity, Job said it long before that.

Job 26:7 Commentaries: "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing.

"a very remarkable instance of anticipation of the discoveries of science'

"Over the empty place - על־תהוּ ‛al-tôhû, "Upon emptiness, or nothing."
That is, without anything to support it.

He hanged the earth on nothing, by creating gravity.

Gravity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Bible, and science agree earth is Suspended in Space,
and not your interpretation of actual sitting on pillers.

Job 26:7 as you posted the English translation is not supported by any other verses of The Bible.
"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
"And hangeth the earth upon nothing."

But Job 26:7 correct translation to English is supported by other verses in The Bible.

The Hebrew is — belimah al erets talah tohu al tsaphon natah
The proper translation of which is:
"He spreadeth out the North over the desolate' place (the abyss of waters), and supporteth the earth upon fastenings."

I (David Wardlaw Scott) am much surprised that not only the translators of the Authorized and
Revised Versions, but such a distinguished scholar as the late Dr.
Robert Young, could have made such a strange mistake, as to say that God
" hangeth the Earth upon nothing," which is neither a proper rendering nor common sense ; besides which it distinctly contradicts the Word of God which, in so many other places, declares that the Earth rests upon Foundations. There must be a support for any thing that hangs, and our Modem Astronomers were not long in taking advantage of the above miss translation by saying that, as it was impossible for such a heavy mass as the Earth to stand by itself, the passage must mean that it whirls round the Sun by the force of Gravitation.

The Hebrew word talah means to hang, suspend, or support by actual contact. thus, to give a
few instances/examples
Genesis 40:19 Within three days Pharaoh will lift off your head from you and hang (talah) you on a tree; and the birds will eat your flesh from you.”

Psalms 137:2 We hung (talah) our harps Upon the willows in the midst of it.

Ezekiel 15:3 Is wood taken from it to make any object? Or can men make a peg from it to hang (talah) any vessel on?

but belimah wrongly translated "nothing" is the crucial word. Our translators appear to have derived it from the noun blee, signifying consumption or desolation, and the pronoun meh, who which what, but the meaning "nothing" drawn from these words, seems to be very far fetched. Hebrew is a very ancient language, to all probability the most ancient of any, and this being the only place in the Bible where the word belimah occurs, it is, of course, difficult to test the meaning. I have myself, however, not the slightest doubt, that Parkhurst is right in deriving the noun belimah from the verb belem, to confine, restrain, or hold in, so used in.
Psalm 32:9 Do not be like the horse or like the mule, Which have no understanding, Which must be harnessed(belem) with bit and bridle, Else they will not come near you.
and that belimah simply means "fastenings," or "supports," and this interpretation exactly agrees with what JEHOVAH asked Job a little farther on in Job 38:6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,

But while I (David Wardlaw Scott) consider Parkhurst to be correct as to the rendering of the word belimah, I believe him to be wrong as to the strange application of it which he makes, when he says — "What can this mean but the columns of light and spirit, between which the Earth is suspended (comp.1 Samuel 2:8), and which, like the two reins of a bridle, hold (if I may be allowed the expression) the mighty steed within its circular course."*

It is, therefore, evident from the above examination, that the real meaning of belimah in Job 26:7 is that God supports the Earth upon fastenings, or, in other words, upon "foundations,"

 

[Job 33:6]

Job 26:7 is probably the most misunderstood verse in the whole book. Or at least with relation to scientific concordism.

The context is blatantly ancient near east.

‭‭Job‬ ‭26:5‭-‬7‬ ‭
[5] The shades below tremble, the waters and their inhabitants. [6] Sheol is naked before God, and Abaddon has no covering. [7] He stretches out Zaphon over the void and hangs the earth upon nothing.
[10] He has described a circle on the face of the waters, at the boundary between light and darkness. [11] The pillars of heaven tremble and are astounded at his rebuke. [12] By his power he stilled the Sea; by his understanding he struck down Rahab. [13] By his wind the heavens were made fair; his hand pierced the fleeing serpent.

Almost every single verse in the chapter has a direct contextual link to ANE cosmology. The shades in Sheol. The stretching of tsaphon over tohu. Pillars of heaven. The circle on the face of the deep. The piercing of the fleeing and twisting rahab.

It's just verse after verse after verse of ANE content.

And it would just be so anachronistic and bizarre to throw in a verse about Einstein's general relativity right splat in the middle of it, based on this strange word "beliymah" that translators wrestle with.

Meanwhile, whatever it is, earth hangs on it. Or is suspended on it. Like hanging fruit from a tree or like a leaf held up by a tree.

No matter how we twist it, nobody can rationally argue that it's describing gravity. Not by a long shot.

That's a good assessment above.

 

[Semper-Fi]

The context is blatantly ancient near east.

The ancient near east creation myths is mankinds
blatant attempt to replace Gods Word, for there's.

The carnal mind is enmity against God Romans 8:7
The heart is deceitful above all things Jeremiah 17:9

 

[Job 33:6]

The ancient near east creation myths is mankinds
blatant attempt to replace Gods Word, for there's.

The carnal mind is enmity against God Romans 8:7
The heart is deceitful above all things Jeremiah 17:9

The ancient near east is a time and place in history. It has nothing to do with anyone trying to replace Gods word with anything.

It's like me pointing out that the Bible was written in Hebrew, an ancient near east language, and you responding by saying that Hebrew is mans attempt to replace Gods word. That doesn't make sense. The Bible was written in Hebrew.

 

[Semper-Fi]

The ancient near east is a time and place in history. It has nothing to do with anyone trying to replace Gods word with anything.

It's like me pointing out that the Bible was written in Hebrew, an ancient near east language, and you responding by saying that Hebrew is mans attempt to replace Gods word. That doesn't make sense. The Bible was written in Hebrew.

We have the Hebrew bible, the utterances, or oracles of our God.
Then you have creation myth stories all over the world.

These stories or [myths] you promote, replace God of Isreal of
creation with deified men as gods, it is [false religions].

For example The Enuma Elish myth, it describes the birth of the gods,
as well as the creation of the universe and the forming of humans.
The story of the elevation of the Babylonian god Marduk to
“kingship over the gods”

The Atrahasis Epic myth, It tells the story of the Sumerian gods.

The Egyptian Creation Myth, Atum masturbates to create other gods.

These are all myths, to replace our God as creator, for other gods.

 

[Job 33:6]

We have the Hebrew bible, the utterances, or oracles of our God.
Then you have creation myth stories all over the world.

These stories or [myths] you promote, replace God of Isreal of
creation with deified men as gods, it is [false religions].

For example The Enuma Elish myth, it describes the birth of the gods,
as well as the creation of the universe and the forming of humans.
The story of the elevation of the Babylonian god Marduk to
“kingship over the gods”

The Atrahasis Epic myth, It tells the story of the Sumerian gods.

The Egyptian Creation Myth, Atum masturbates to create other gods.

These are all myths, to replace our God as creator, for other gods.

The existence of myth creation stories in the ancient near east doesn't somehow remove the Bible from the ancient near east. Just as the existence of other texts in Hebrew doesn't remove the Bible from being written in Hebrew. Context encompasses cultures, languages, ideas etc. and those encompasses cultures and ideas do not necessarily force one another out of their context.

I live in American culture as a Republican. My existence in American culture doesn't remove or supercede democrats from our culture. We exist side by side within the same culture.

Enuma Elish and the Bible both exist within the ancient near east. One does not overwrite another. They are both inside and within the same cultural context.