Why nonexistence of God is an impossibility

[bhsmte]

So those people might be really primitive in knowledge, logic and experience. Do you expect their idea of theology be taken as "profound" in modern days? The Christian theology today is entirely based on what's written at least 2000 years ago and earlier. Why didn't the modern Mormons and the Jehovah witnesses revise the most of the theology, but inherited more than 90% of the old idea on what a God should be like?

If the original thought about Christianity is "simple", then how could it survive the scrutinies of all academic studies in all the modern seminary schools?

Survive the scrutiny of seminary schools? Since the majority of seminary schools are run by devout Christians, not exactly the best objective view of the same.

If one does a thorough investigation into what the consensus is in regards to NT historians is, they will find they can agree on the following:

-Jesus was a real person
-Jesus was baptized
-Jesus had followers
-Jesus was crucified

Beyond that, the NT is not viewed as a credible source of accurate history by most NT historians.

 

[juvenissun]

Survive the scrutiny of seminary schools? Since the majority of seminary schools are run by devout Christians, not exactly the best objective view of the same.

If one does a thorough investigation into what the consensus is in regards to NT historians is, they will find they can agree on the following:

-Jesus was a real person
-Jesus was baptized
-Jesus had followers
-Jesus was crucified

Beyond that, the NT is not viewed as a credible source of accurate history by most NT historians.

Do not shift the goalpost.

Is there anything wrong with the theology? Which is the idea "presented" or "figured out" by those primitive people?

If we assembled a best think tank today, can they figure out a new religion which is more reasonable and acceptable than the Christianity? The answer must be a no. Otherwise, it should have already happened long time ago.

 

[bhsmte]

Do not shift the goalpost.

Is there anything wrong with the theology? Which is the idea "presented" or "figured out" by those primitive people?

If we assembled a best think tank today, can they figure out a new religion which is more reasonable and acceptable than the Christianity? The answer must be a no. Otherwise, it should have already happened long time ago.

There are many theologies and there is nothing wrong with man creating theologies.

Some use theological beliefs in a positive way and some use them in a negative way.

In summary, nothing wrong with any theology, though there may be something wrong with how an individual uses a theology.

 

[Nithavela]

Do not shift the goalpost.

Is there anything wrong with the theology? Which is the idea "presented" or "figured out" by those primitive people?

If we assembled a best think tank today, can they figure out a new religion which is more reasonable and acceptable than the Christianity? The answer must be a no. Otherwise, it should have already happened long time ago.

There already are a few religions that are more reasonable and acceptable than christianity.

 

[toLiJC]

There is no guarantee that the god of any religion isn't false. That's part of my point.

You need to prove that the bible is true before using it as evidence.

Again, you're assuming that the bible is true.

it is a matter of right faith, and the Bible is true for a certainty after Jesus Christ is the only Lord Who cast out the evil spirits of every possessed that He ever met, healed every sick that He ever met, recovered every invalid that He ever met, resurrected every dead that He ever met, and preached overall(all-embracing) salvation in His God, the Heavenly Father, moreover He did not wait (for) the needy to come alone to Him, but He Himself went to seek and find them going from city to city, street to street, house to house, etc., no one of the so-called other lords(christs) had ever done that

Blessings

 

[FreedByte]

it is a matter of right faith, and the Bible is true for a certainty after Jesus Christ is the only Lord Who cast out the evil spirits of every possessed that He ever met, healed every sick that He ever met, recovered every invalid that He ever met, resurrected every dead that He ever met, and preached overall(all-embracing) salvation in His God, the Heavenly Father, moreover He did not wait (for) the needy to come alone to Him, but He Himself went to seek and find them going from city to city, street to street, house to house, etc., no one of the so-called other lords(christs) had ever done that

All this is according to the bible, so you're using the bible to show that the bible is true. Another example of begging the question.

 

[toLiJC]

All this is according to the bible, so you're using the bible to show that the bible is true. Another example of begging the question.

there were many ancient events till now that cannot be proven, but this does not mean they did not happened for certain, that is why it was said that it is a matter of right faith, because there are things that cannot be proven with physical evidence, or as it is written:

1 Corinthians 2:7-16 "we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

Blessings

 

[juvenissun]

There already are a few religions that are more reasonable and acceptable than christianity.

For example?

 

[juvenissun]

There are many theologies and there is nothing wrong with man creating theologies.

Some use theological beliefs in a positive way and some use them in a negative way.

In summary, nothing wrong with any theology, though there may be something wrong with how an individual uses a theology.

As I have exercised with the other guy, if we tried to construct a theology from scratch, there will be many many things that can go wrong.

Not a single person, neither a group of people, can work together to construct a theology like the Christianity. It is not possible.

 

[FreedByte]

there were many ancient events till now that cannot be proven, but this does not mean they did not happened for certain, that is why it was said that it is a matter of right faith, because there are things that cannot be proven with physical evidence, or as it is written:

Ok, so back to the question: if there is insufficient evidence for the bible being true, why should I believe it over the hindu scriptures, sikh scriptures, etc. They all have faith in their scriptures like you have faith in the bible. What's the difference?

 

[True Scotsman]

it is a matter of right faith, and the Bible is true for a certainty after Jesus Christ is the only Lord Who cast out the evil spirits of every possessed that He ever met, healed every sick that He ever met, recovered every invalid that He ever met, resurrected every dead that He ever met, and preached overall(all-embracing) salvation in His God, the Heavenly Father, moreover He did not wait (for) the needy to come alone to Him, but He Himself went to seek and find them going from city to city, street to street, house to house, etc., no one of the so-called other lords(christs) had ever done that

Blessings

Do you think that circular reasoning is valid?

 

[Nithavela]

For example?

Just for starters, Baha'ism.

 

[madaz]

Not a single person, neither a group of people, can work together to construct a theology like the Christianity. It is not possible.

Well obviously, it is possible.

 

[bhsmte]

As I have exercised with the other guy, if we tried to construct a theology from scratch, there will be many many things that can go wrong.

Not a single person, neither a group of people, can work together to construct a theology like the Christianity. It is not possible.

Why not? Man not only constructed it, they made it up as they went along.

 

[toLiJC]

Ok, so back to the question: if there is insufficient evidence for the bible being true, why should I believe it over the hindu scriptures, sikh scriptures, etc. They all have faith in their scriptures like you have faith in the bible. What's the difference?

it was already explained to you how the other lords(christs) do not seek the profit of all humans for abundant and everlasting life in God the Father, but only the Lord Jesus Christ works for true overall(all-embracing) salvation

Blessings

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Are these four forces gods themselves or are the four gods who control the four forces?

Do these gods do anything else except controlling the forces?

They control the forces, directing them to create complex systems.

 

[juvenissun]

They control the forces, directing them to create complex systems.

Can these four forces synthesize something called soul?

Appreciated if you only answer yes or no (can or can not). Because there is a follow-up question about these gods. Also, the soul is not a scientifically defined property of life. (warning: your gods are about to hit a wall)

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Can these four forces synthesize something called soul?

Appreciated if you only answer yes or no (can or can not). Because there is a follow-up question about these gods. Also, the soul is not a scientifically defined property of life. (warning: your gods are about to hit a wall)

I'll say no, but only tentatively because one needs to define what a 'soul' is.

 

[juvenissun]

Why not? Man not only constructed it, they made it up as they went along.

The theology of Christianity is too complicated and too well-structured for human being to construct. Evidence: the theme of the Bible and the history of the Bible compilation. (you probably do not understand this evidence)

Of course, if you are only at the level of PHYS 1XX or CHEM 2XX, you could not appreciate the beauty of issues discussed in PHYS 7XX or CHEM 7XX. For example, the idea of Trinity is beyond human wisdom and is a concept at (or beyond) the 7XX level of Christianity. This idea is unreachable to people at 1XX level. That is why most atheists do not "understand" (I am not using the word "believe") it and even called it stupid. To those Christians at Christianity 4XX or 5XX level, they can "believe" it. But they may still not "understand" it.

A single controversial idea (the word Trinity does not even show up once in the Bible) which can stand the scrutiny of wisest people in the world for thousands of years. This idea (do not forget the background support for this idea) does not belong to human wisdom.

If you like to see what human wisdom can do, you may try the theology of Buddhism. There is no incomprehensible (illogical) idea in it.

 

[juvenissun]

I'll say no, but only tentatively because one needs to define what a 'soul' is.

If so, how do you define your gods? More basically, why do you still NEED these gods?

If a god who "controls" (not "is) the Weak Force, then could science suggest the existence of this god (same argument to the existence of soul)? Why don't you save the trouble by scratching out this god? If you do that, what are you going to lose in your theology?

Yes, you will lose the god, but you still have the Weak Force. Would that be enough?