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No, because we know what nature was like in history.
I run them through God's checks and balances system.
How does what we read about life in history tell us anything was different? I do not see Napoleon living 1000 years? I don't see Queen Victoria's garden growing trees in a few weeks?But how? You're describing what you believe, but you're not giving the basis for that believe.
Which is?
How does what we read about life in history tell us anything was different? I do not see Napoleon living 1000 years? I don't see Queen Victoria's garden growing trees in a few weeks?
Unless supported by evidence, it is actually unsupported belief that tells you that.
Interesting projection.Real common sense does not fly in the face of reason and history. Learn the difference between baseless biased preferential intuition and commons sense.
No. You just think you do. This is one reason you don't post it.
Since it makes reproduction difficult, I suspect it is an adapting/evolving from something else, rather than the designed created kind.
Apparently this multitude is so small so as to be invisible.There's only a small multitude of facts and archaeological proofs of God hence creation.
God's creation speaks for itself and all you have to do is open your eyes and look around.
What this thread is showing (even being nice and giving the presumption that no proof has been posted, lol!) is a very calculated determined denial of obvious proofs in the world that everyone can and does see.
Make no mistake about it, the denial of God's existence is for a reason that they will not state. Every single person on this board knows deep down inside that God is real and did create the world just as He said He did. Some lie to the Christians, others are lying to themselves perhaps and may actually believe the inane things they write. Everybody has the God seed in them. How do I know this? I have felt it my whole life, even when I wasn't walking with God. I know you feel it too.
Why else do Atheists hang out on Christian boards?!
Except when He does.The Christian scriptures say that there will be no excuse. God doesn't lie.
Apparently this multitude is so small so as to be invisible.
Meaningless.
It is true that no proof has been posted. No evidence, either.
If you look though it, you will see that all the 'proof' amounts to groundless, question begging assertions such as " God's creation speaks for itself and all you have to do is open your eyes and look around. "
It is amazing how so many evangelical types pretend to know the psychology of those that do not share their ancient middle eastern faith. Such hubris - and all to justify their superstitious numerology.
Perhaps because people like you, collectively, seek to force your religion upon all others?
Except when He does.
Jeremiah 20:7
Right - so no reason to think anyone lived that long.I do not see Napoleon living 1000 years?
Because that is not how things grow.I don't see Queen Victoria's garden growing trees in a few weeks?
The answer you ignored was that nothing in contemporary history tells us that the basic realities and laws of physics were unlike they now are. One cannot say the same for earliest ancient history, and Genesis. In fact there are distinct differences recorded.You don't appear to have an answer...
Oh well, carry on then.
Irrelevant when talking about a flood that occurred before mountain building/uplift/rapid continental drift/nature change/...etc.An example of the evidence - we observe a flood. We see the results of this flood, that is, it leaves evidence. Erosion, deposition of soils in a discernible pattern, etc.
We see stuff from space and under the earth in the KT layer. Flood waters also came from there. Obvious conclusion: there may be a connection.We see the same sort of evidence in ancient strata. Obvious conclusion - caused by a flood.
Also ancient history, and the absolute ignorance of science on the matter either way.Your only evidence that things were different in the past is a desire to rescue untenable bible lore.
Using the word reality does not bring it any closer to your religion.But I know - I also know the difference between common sense and reality (the two very often do not intersect).
Ancient genetics is unknown. IN a different nature they would have to be different to some extent. You simply look at today and assume they were the same always. That is religion. Not evidence relating to the far past or origins.
Irrelevant when talking about a flood that occurred before mountain building/uplift/rapid continental drift/nature change/...etc.An example of the evidence - we observe a flood. We see the results of this flood, that is, it leaves evidence. Erosion, deposition of soils in a discernible pattern, etc.
We see stuff from space and under the earth in the KT layer. Flood waters also came from there. Obvious conclusion: there may be a connection.We see the same sort of evidence in ancient strata. Obvious conclusion - caused by a flood.
Also ancient history, and the absolute ignorance of science on the matter either way.Your only evidence that things were different in the past is a desire to rescue untenable bible lore.
Using the word reality does not bring it any closer to your religion.But I know - I also know the difference between common sense and reality (the two very often do not intersect).
Ancient genetics is unknown. IN a different nature they would have to be different to some extent. You simply look at today and assume they were the same always. That is religion. Not evidence relating to the far past or origins.
Irrelevant when talking about a flood that occurred before mountain building/uplift/rapid continental drift/nature change/...etc.An example of the evidence - we observe a flood. We see the results of this flood, that is, it leaves evidence. Erosion, deposition of soils in a discernible pattern, etc.
We see stuff from space and under the earth in the KT layer. Flood waters also came from there. Obvious conclusion: there may be a connection.We see the same sort of evidence in ancient strata. Obvious conclusion - caused by a flood.
Also ancient history, and the absolute ignorance of science on the matter either way.Your only evidence that things were different in the past is a desire to rescue untenable bible lore.
Using the word reality does not bring it any closer to your religion.But I know - I also know the difference between common sense and reality (the two very often do not intersect).
Ancient genetics is unknown. IN a different nature they would have to be different to some extent. You simply look at today and assume they were the same always. That is religion. Not evidence relating to the far past or origins.
Irrelevant when talking about a flood that occurred before mountain building/uplift/rapid continental drift/nature change/...etc.
We see stuff from space and under the earth in the KT layer.
Flood waters also came from there.
Obvious conclusion: there may be a connection.
Also ancient history, and the absolute ignorance of science on the matter either way.
Projection.Using the word reality does not bring it any closer to your religion.
Ancient genetics is unknown.
IN a different nature they would have to be different to some extent.
You simply look at today's word usage and assume it was always the same. Different definitions past.You simply look at today and assume they were the same always.
You ignored/cannot understand the simple logic of same states always. Your made-up ideas are mere facade-saving nonsense.That is religion. Not evidence relating to the far past or origins.
The answer you ignored was that nothing in contemporary history tells us that the basic realities and laws of physics were unlike they now are.
So do you, and all you have is belief in a same state past.Question begging fallacy. You need to provide empirical support for your proposed timeline.
No. We don't see that. We some tiny residual movements or actions. I didn't see an Everest pop up this month.I do not accept that these events (flooding, mountain building, etc.) occurred in a prescribed temporal fashion, since we can see that they are ongoing and occur simultaneously.
Not much heat in the former nature. That is a feature of this nature, that we expect heat from great friction.You seem to be proposing events that would have had dire consequences for the planet - how much energy, for example, would "rapid continental drift" taken, and how much heat would have been released?
Let me make a prediction - Jehovah just turned off all physical 'laws' and constants - to include the creationist favorites the laws of thermodynamics - to accomplish his murderous tasks?
Says your religion. However flood waters also came from space.Yes - iridium, common in asteroids, not so common earth. Evidence for an asteroid strike.
Sure...it is all on the surface!?There is no such thing as "under the earth."
False. Just because some layers were laid down i the former state does not mean they would be that way now in this one! Ridiculous.You are relying on current states to support your silly different states past ideology.
Wrong. Not all beliefs are equal at all.I no longer have a religion - but I do find it telling how frequently creationists try to bring science down to the level of religion such that they then feel that they are on equal footing.
You could...and maybe someone might care.I could just claim that the bible can be dismissed because words had different meanings back then - different definitions past - and our modern interpretation of the scrolls of Scripture are irredeemably flawed.
You merely assume the same nature in the past that your belief system needs to be true. You've never presented any intelligence or sensible rationale, much less evidence, for your position. It is without merit. Plus different definitions past undermine your position.You merely assume what you need to be true. You've never presented any intelligence or sensible rationale, much less evidence, for your position. It is without merit. Plus different definitions past undermine your position.
Looks like the issue got lost in the weeds. If you see some reason contemporary history shows a different nature, just post the goods.To which I responded, but how do you know that? To which you responded with a bunch of questions.
If you start answering questions with questions, then it suggests you don't have an answer.
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