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BourbonFromHeaven said:Really, it's just a matter that our perspectives are really different. I think we have both explained ourselves, I don't see much to gain from going down this path. I'm getting the feeling we are running circles around eachother.
You do see the irony of two non-christians debating over what a christian is
BourbonFromHeaven said:BS'D
Shalom Orontes,
Much of the documents used by Christians today to define themselves, are rejected by Mormons becuase in that era, the world was in Apostacy until the gospels were restored to Joseph Smith.
BourbonFromHeaven said:Lignoba said:You have got to be kidding me.
EDIT: You deal realize, one has to READ the article, and judge it based on it's content. Not by what Web provider they go with.
Seems to be a common issue
BourbonFromHeaven said:BS'D
Shalom Orontes,
I've given this issue some more thought. As of right now, I stand corrected. I have to reasses some things about "Christanity" and the LDS Church. So, as of right now, I'll get my foot out of my mouth, pop a mentos to get rid of the taste of shoe, and take another look at this.
So, I am afraid your questions are going to have to go unanswered
Orontes said:Okay,
By the way: Happy Chanukah!
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- John Adams
I understand, may be asking everyone to explain the trinity in their own words and no discussion. I am thinking about changing from rabbi to sage, what do you think?BourbonFromHeaven said:I don't think I have the fortitude to wade through the pages upon pages of discussion that would spawn.
I was actually playing on words, but it doesnt matter. When did Arunma speak for the entire Christian community, did I miss the memo? Yet, youll hear them differentiate God the Father and Son so I do not see a difference.BourbonFromHeaven said:That begs the question, of how an omnipresent, perfect being, stands next to it. As Arunma stated, even Christians don't take the Psalms reading that literal, however, Mormons do have classic portraits of Joseph Smith's vision, where there the actual son and father and standing next to each other, you wouldn't see that in any other form of Christianity.
So, you have never seen a discussion where both sides (educated) could not see the issue of semantics?BourbonFromHeaven said:If it semantics, why do most Christian denominations do not see the LDS church as an accurate form of Christianity? Why do educated Christians continue to engage in apologetics over the nature of the Godhead with Mormon apologists? Why do educated people, on both sides, cannot see it as an issue of semantics?
BourbonFromHeaven said:Christian in the nominal sense. I think we have discussed her past before and I know her journey has landed her now, presently, with a much broader spiritual and metaphyiscal belief.
(Plug time), since she runs this on-line store; http://www.cassiopeiascorner.com/index.html
I would think the definition for her would be a bit to limiting for her.
peepnklown said:I understand, may be asking everyone to explain the trinity in their own words and no discussion. I am thinking about changing from rabbi to sage, what do you think?
I was actually playing on words, but it doesnt matter. When did Arunma speak for the entire Christian community, did I miss the memo? Yet, youll hear them differentiate God the Father and Son so I do not see a difference.
So, you have never seen a discussion where both sides (educated) could not see the issue of semantics?
BourbonFromHeaven said:The debates I am reffering to, are between both Christian and Mormon scholars.
I was unaware that I am not Christian.BourbonFromHeaven said:Really, it's just a matter that our perspectives are really different. I think we have both explained ourselves, I don't see much to gain from going down this path. I'm getting the feeling we are running circles around eachother.
You do see the irony of two non-christians debating over what a christian is
excuse me? Who is we? You got a mouse in your pocket? Because YOU and I have not discussed anything about me. You do not know my past or my present and the fact I run an online store that caters to many different spiritual paths does not limit me from being Christian.BourbonFromHeaven said:Christian in the nominal sense. I think we have discussed her past before and I know her journey has landed her now, presently, with a much broader spiritual and metaphyiscal belief.
I would think the definition for her would be a bit to limiting for her.
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peepnklown said:I was actually playing on words, but it doesnt matter. When did Arunma speak for the entire Christian community, did I miss the memo? Yet, youll hear them differentiate God the Father and Son so I do not see a difference.
Its not about believing you; its about you speaking for the entire Christian community, in which you dont. If different ideologies and or interpretations exclude sects then nobody is a Christian.arunma said:If you don't believe that what I've said is true, then please study the patristic writings, specifically the heresy of Modalism.
Thank you. That is indeed a true statment. It is unfortunage, but anyone who believes otherwise, does not understand our teachings. Yes, we have a different understanding of many things Scripture entails, but we do believe in Christ, and none other.peepnklown said:Its not about believing you; its about you speaking for the entire Christian community, in which you dont. If different ideologies and or interpretations exclude sects then nobody is a Christian.
LDS (Mormons) accepts Jesus Christ as their leader, their king, their savior. They accept his divinity, his life, and his atonement.
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