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What day does your church receive offerings? Is it a day you don't meet for worship?
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What day does your church receive offerings? Is it a day you don't meet for worship?How does 1 Corinthians 16 prove that biblical history from GENESIS to REVELATION shows that God's people have always kept God's 4th commandment SEVENTH DAY SABBATH unbroken from ADAM and EVE through to JESUS and all the APOSTLES to after the death and ressurection of JESUS. Through to the early Church all through time to this very present day?
I don't do videos.Of course it does as shown in the video it was referring to.
Do you wish to discuss your sabbath keeping compliance?Now brother are you trying to say God's WORD is not true? You have been only provided God's WORD and are arguing for the traditions of men over the scriptures. You are free to believe and do as you wish your argument is between you and God as they are God's WORD not mine.
Post any verse containing a statement Christians are Israel.You seem confused here brother. God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27. Need more scripture click me?
What is this - Joshua 8:32 And he wrote there upon the stones a copy of the law of Moses, which he wrote in the presence of the children of Israel.No it does not. Please supply the scripture in the NEW TESTAMENT that says the law of Moses is the 10 Commandments.
That better covenant is a new covenant. Yes I read Hebrews.No we don't have a New Covenant ... we have a better covenant. God never breaks His covenant ... people do. OT Israel broke covenant with God. His covenant still stands.
The better of the original covenant is through Jesus and His sacrifice rather than the OT ceremonial/sacrificial system.
These eternal laws you talk about were added 430 years after Abraham and have expired upon the coming of the Seed (Jesus) - Gal 3. Besides that sin was in the world before the law - Rom 5:13.The 10 are eternal laws ... we can never keep them perfectly, but we are to strive towards that end not as works but because we love Him. Jesus helps us to overcome our sins (transgressions of the law) ... and that is a lifetime process. He paid our debts, He is our high priest and He will stand in our stead and God will see us as perfect through the blood of Jesus but that does not mean we can just ignore the big 10.
If this is from John, its not the famous 10.Love .... if you love me ... keep my commandments.
It's that some try very hard to make it a controversy.It's not a major controversy in Christianity.
We can worship and gather together seven days a week if we want to.
You may be distracted by a controversy over a Jewish day of rest. Worship and rest mean different things.
I thought I ask you to explain the word "from" in your quote. Please do so.True - it is a benefit, a blessing -- for mankind
"The Sabbath was made for mankind" Mark 2:27
Who says He waited??
Is 66:23 "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall ALL MANKIND come before Me to worship"
No. Any gentile that commits to that covenant is a Jew - Ex 12:48.Is 56:6-8 gentiles "specifically" singled out for Sabbath keeping (700 years B.C)
You're mistaken here. The word "shabbath" doesn't appear in Genesis.Gen 2:1-3 Sabbath given to all mankind in Eden - as even the Sunday groups freely admit when they argue that all mankind was given all TEN of the TEN Commandments in Eden.
Yes you do and not they don't by practice. Some of them don't by confession like DL Moody.Which I keep pointing out here -
The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.
No. See above. If you wish to discuss it with evidence, I'm game.Certainly it is true that all those listed agree that the Sabbath Commandment as well as all the other TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God written on the heart under the New Covenant of Jer 31:31-33
Not according to Moses.Jer 31:31-33 God calls it the NEW Covenant and it includes the moral law of God that Jeremiah and his readers already knew about -- written on the heart and mind.
The Old Covenant in its purest form was given to sinless Adam , "Obey and live" and he eventually chose sin.
The New Covenant was introduced along with the New Birth so that sinful man could be saved.
No we don't have a New Covenant ... we have a better covenant.
Moses never uses the term "old covenant" for anythingNot according to Moses.
Or people who want to follow Gods commandments.
With that said, the sabbath is given to us, we where not given to the sabbath. Just as Jesus said.
Do you care to explain why God waited some 4,000 years to make this known? Can you show how this verse makes the sabbath an obligation?
I thought I ask you to explain the word "from" in your quote. Please do so.
BobRyan said: ↑
Lev 23
‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the Lord, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.
3 “‘There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a Sabbath to the Lord.
It is one of the days of holy convocation, sacred assembly even though it is not limited to "yearly"
We gather and celebrate the risen Christ, what has that got to do with a Jewish day off?Do you think that reading God's Ten commandments is too confusing for people??
Any gentile that commits to that covenant is a Jew - Ex 12:48. .
You may be distracted by a controversy over a Jewish day of rest. Worship and rest mean different things.
We gather and celebrate the risen Christ, what has that got to do with a Jewish day off?
The word "shabbath" doesn't appear in Genesis.
Yes you do and not they don't by practice. Some of them don't by confession like DL Moody.
No. See above. If you wish to discuss it with evidence, I'm game.
I didn't see any discussion of the word "from" in that post.See page "one" of this thread... post #10.
Nor this one. I did see the word being quoted in other passages, but no discussion.It goes something like this
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Is 66:23 "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship"
And at one point someone asked 'what does from mean'?
1 Sam 2:19
19 And his mother would make him a little robe and bring it to him from year to year when she would come up with her husband to offer the yearly sacrifice.
19 Moreover his mother made him a little coat, and brought it to him from year to year, when she came up with her husband to offer the yearly sacrifice.
We are under grace and not under the law.Do you think that reading God's Ten commandments is too confusing for people??
From the Bible point of view - it does not have anything at all to do with the Sabbath commandment. What is your point?
If anyone trust not Jesus, trusting instead demons or men or no one, then yes, all Scripture will be confusing and incomprehensible to them.Do you think that reading God's Ten commandments is too confusing for people??
If the Catholic Catechism agrees with you, then you have serious issues indeed.Which I keep pointing out here -
The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.
Hello Bob.
The following is a list of traditions forged by men.
If the Catholic Catechism agrees with you, then you have serious issues indeed.
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