Why is the day of worship controversial?

[LoveGodsWord]

Considering your position please explain how you have Israel without Jews.

No problem.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

You wrongly promote Christians are Israel. You do this by misapplication of words and interchanging them (changing the definition).

Nope not at all. It is God's WORD not mine that says in the NEW COVENANT God's ISRAEL are now all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD not me. You only provide your own Words I believe God so your argument is with God not me. A very detailed scripture response provided below in the linked posts which start with the ORIGIN of ISRAEL in the OLD COVENANT linking who God's ISRAEL are under the NEW COVENANT.

1. ORIGIN OF ISRAEL AND THE 12 TRIBES linked
2. MEANING OF THE NAME OF GOD'S ISRAEL linked
3. GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT IS GOD'S CHURCH linked
4. GENTILES ARE NOW GRAFTED IN WITH GOD'S ISRAEL linked

I've no interest in the origin of Israel. I've no interest in your definition of Israel.

Indeed. If you have no interest in God's WORD then how can you argue your position with your own words? These are God's WORD not mine so your argument is with God not me. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4

Your graft in Israel idea doesn't line up with Scripture.

Sorry it is God's WORD not mine I cannot take any credit for it. The graft is into the ROOT (Christ) amonf the branches (ISRAEL) *ROMANS 11:13-27

I understand your application of Rom 3:4. Essentially you're bypassing the mods with it calling me a lair.

Not at all. Simply stating that only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that seek to break the commandments of God as spoken by JESUS *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

I fully agree with Peter in Acts 5:29. I also believe - 1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. If you also believed this verse we would have no argument over the law as an obligation for the Christian.

If JESUS says; On these two commandments of LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN hang all the LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40 and we go out and lie, steal or murder our neighbore are we loving them and believing Jesus?

If JESUS says; On these two commandments of LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN hang all the LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40 and we say no there is no longer any LAW to give us the KNOWLEDGE of sin *ROMANS 3:20 are we BELIEVING JESUS when JESUS says; On these two commandments of LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN hang all the LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40?

I do believe all of God's WORD. It is true hoever, you have no argument as you are misapplying your application of the scriptures due to losing context as shown through God's WORD (only sent in love as a help brother).

You already said there are no Jews in Jesus Christ. So quit coming back trying to make Jews out of gentiles. The saints aren't Israel - Eph 2:19.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

Again the one fold isn't Israel - Jn 10:16.

According the the scriptures a sheep is a sheep unless they are one in wolves clothing *MATTHEW 7:15; MATTHEW 10:16; JOHN 10:16. Notice in JOHN 10:16, JESUS says he must bring his sheep from other folds and there will be one Shepard and one fold?

God's sheep hear his Voice and follow him (the Word)

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Nope this promise isn't made with Jacob.

You may need to re-read your scriptures brother JACOB is ISRAEL *GENESIS 32:28; 46:1-3. It is God's promise to Abrham and his decendence *GENESIS 12:1-3.

I don't care how many times you abuse or misuse this passage. It will never make your intention true.

There is no misuse of the scriptures. All I hear is your words over God's WORD. No matter how many times you wish to deny theses scriptures does not make God's WORD disappear. Let's let God's WORD answer the question. Who is the NEW COVENANT promise to?

HEBREWS 8:10 [10], FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAY I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS SAYS THE LORD; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people

Yep we have no part in God's promise if you are not a part of God's ISRAEL as the promise was made to Abraham and his seed who is ISRAEL *HEBREWS 8:10-12.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

God's true ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are not by name only but all those in Christ. Those of the FLESH (sinful human nature) are not Abrahams seed but those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God in Christ are God's ISRAEL...

ROMANS 9:6-8 [6], FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: [7], NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> [8], That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED.

God's ISRAEL are all those in CHRIST that have been given a NEW HEART according to the NEW COVENANT promise...

ROMANS 2:28-29 [28], FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: [29], BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you.

OK, I can buy that. This is a change for you from into Israel to among Israel. Quite a difference. However that doesn't mean the one fold is Israel. We're fellowcitizens with the saints, not Israel. Eph 2:19

There has been no change from me here brother. It is something I stated with you from the beginning and clarified with you in other posts. I am happy you agree. Of course it means that we are a part of God's ISRAEL if we are grafted in among them because the God's NEW COVENANT promise is to ISRAEL who represents all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word - the Church.

Hope this helps.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Your only real contention is the day of worship and not evil activity.

It is God's LAW (10 Commandments) that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

EVIL is breaking God's LAW.

MATTHEW 12:34-35
[34], O generation of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
[35], A good man out of the good treasure of the heart brings forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.

Let's get a bit more specific...

MATTHEW 15:18-19
[18], But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
[19], For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Yep the 10 commandments. This is why the world was destroyed with a flood *GENESIS 6:5-6

Hope this helps.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Where does Paul say not murdering (killing) is keeping (doing) the law? What I gather from you is the wicked are also keeping the law. That isn't true. They would ask you what are you talking about.

You did not read the post did you? The post and the scriptures shows that OBEDIENCE God's LAW is fulfilled by faith that works by LOVE. Those who continue in SIN do not LOVE and need to be Born again to LOVE. This is the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12; JOHN 3:3-7; 1 JOHN 3:3-9; 1 JOHN 2:3-4' ROMANS 3:31.

ROMANS 13:8-10 [8], Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law. [9], For this, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, You shall not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, namely, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [10], Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore, love is the fulfilling [DOING] of the law.

Hope this helps.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The question or statement was presented by Sara about the famous 10 being the law of Moses. So I presented Joshua 8:32 in which the Law of Moses is written on stone. Do you have something saying anything besides the famous 10 were written on stone? I want to see it.

No you make a claim that is out of context. IOW isn't true. Prove it. You claim you can with the rest of the chapter. Let's see it.

Not really, what law of Moses are you referring to? Moses had many shadow laws written in the book of the Covenant *EXODUS 24:7. These however were not the same as God's eternal law, (the 10 commandments) that God wrote on the two tables of stone.

God has 10 eternal laws that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is if broken as shown in *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172 as already shown through the scriptures.

 

[ace of hearts]

Why should I need to? Joshua 8 supports your view and argument how?

I only quoted Joshua 8:32. I don't think I gave any commentary. Is that why you're no asking how it supports my view?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I only quoted Joshua 8:32. I don't think I gave any commentary. Is that why you're no asking how it supports my view?

Nope. Read the scripture context what do you think it is talking about?

 

[Soyeong]

Paul is admonishing us to imitate him. Paul didn't follow the law after conversion.

Christ lived in obedience to the Mosaic Law, which means that if Paul imitated him, then he also lived in obedience to it, and we are to imitate him. In Acts 6:13, Stephen was falsely accused of teaching against God's Law and in in Acts 21:20-24, Paul took steps to disprove false rumors that he was teaching against obeying it and to show that he continued to live in obedience to it.

I reject your call to Judaism.

Jesus did not come to start his own religion following a different god, but rather he came as the Jewish Messiah of Judaism and he practiced Judaism by keeping all of its laws and by teaching his followers to obey them by word and by example. All Christians were Torah observant Jews for roughly the first 7-15 years after Christ's resurrection up until the inclusion of Gentiles in Acts 10, so Christianity at it origin was the form of Judaism that recognized Jesus as its prophesied Messiah and Jewish believers did not consider themselves to be converting to a different religion.

If he did he couldn't say - "We are now delivered from the law..." Please don't chastise me for not quoting the whole verse, it doesn't invalidate what I quoted. Besides the the context is the famous 10 by citation in v 7.

In Romans 7:21-25, Paul said that he delighted in obeying God's Law and that he served it with his mind, but contrasted that with the law of sin, which held him captive, which caused him not to do the good that he wanted to, and which he served with his flesh. In Romans 7:6, it specifies that that we have been delivered from a law that held us captive, which matches his description of the law of sin, not of God's Law. If Romans 7:22 and Romans 7:5-6 are speaking about the same law, then that would mean that Paul delighted in stirring up sinful passion to bear fruit unto death and that he delighted in being held captive. Rather, he contrasted the law that he was speaking about in verses 5-6 with the law that he was speaking about in verse 7 by saying that God's Law is not sinful.

There's no requirement in Acts 15 to attend synagogue.

There would be no point in making the statement in Acts 15:21 is they didn't expect Gentiles to learn about how to obey Moses every Sabbath in the synagogues.

I have to ask why would they as followers of Jesus need to learn how to follow Moses and the law?

Jesus was sinless, so he followed the Mosaic Law and taught his followers how to obey it by word and by example, so that is what it means to be a follower of Christ. Gentiles don't have to become a Jew in order to become a member of Judaism and a follower of Christ, but you can't him by refusing to follow the Law that he taught by word and by example.

Who is they in Col 2? It doesn't say they were doing anything. It says let no one condemn you about the matter. This goes either way. Col 2:20-23 is about carnal commandments of which the famous 10 are.

If you look at Colossians 2:16 by itself, then it is ambiguous as to whether Paul was saying not to let anyone judge them for obeying God's holy days or for not obeying them, but if you look at the context of the views of the people judging them, and keep in mind the theme that we must obey God rather than man, then it becomes clear that the Colossians were being judged for not following man-made teachings and precepts, and were therefore being judged for keeping God's holy days. Paul was a servant of God, so he should not be interpreted as being an enemy of God who spoke against obeying what He has commanded.

1 Peter 1:13-16 Isn't a call to keep the law.

If 1 Peter 1:13-16 instructs us to have a holy conduct for God is holy and God's Law is His instructions for how to do that, then why is it not a call to keep the Law?

 

[ace of hearts]

It is God's WORD. I am not using it against anyone. It is God's WORD not mine. What did you wish to discuss about EXOCUS 20:8-11? I have been sharing my testimony with the scriptures all through these many thread?

Well that is not true brother. I am only a sinner in need of salvation like everyone here. I share God's WORD alone. Condemnation from the scriptures is only over SIN (breaking any one of God's 10 Commandments). If we confess our sins JESUS and faithful and just and ready to FORGIVE us our sins and CLEANSE us from all unrighteosness *1 JOHN 1:9. HOWEVER, if anyone of us are CONTINUING in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN breaking any one of God's 10 Commandments, then we stand guilty before God of SIN (breaking God's 10 Commandments) *1 JOHN 3:4; JAMES 2:10-11. Sin will keep all those who practice it out of God's KINGDOM *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

This is just one of many posts to me with the bold red in it. I didn't want to look all night for more of them. This one is a little more softer than some others.

What unrepentant sin are you talking about? The only thing it could possibly be because of our exchanges is the 4th commandment. Your intention with 1 John 3:4 is that sin is only breaking one of the famous 10. The problem is there is a four letter word you refuse to acknowledge "also." When this verse is quoted by your side, only the last half of the sentence is quoted. In this case that intentionally alters the meaning of the verse.

James 2:10-11 says if you don't keep every part of the law you're guilty of the whole law. IOW if you lie, you're also guilty of committing adultery (the rest of the law).

Hebrews 10:26-27 talks about willful sin (unrepentant sin) has no forgiveness. Now you knowingly are applying this to the 4th commandment. I ask if you were willing to discuss this by making the first argument for or against and could even present personal testimony. So far you refuse. Why? The sabbath is your whole argument by the volume of your posts. You claim to keep it. I 'm asking how and what do you do in keeping it. That would be on topic for this thread.

 

[ace of hearts]

Well that has no truth in it brother. Please show where CIRCUMCISION is a requirement in any one of God's 10 Commandments *EXODUS 20:1-17? You mix up your shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's eternal law (10 commandments) that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL *SIN AND RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

James 2:10-11 - it's all or nothing. Circumcision is part of the law. In fact if a Jewish male isn't circumcised he loses not only his God, but also his country.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

James 2:10-11 - it's all or nothing. Circumcision is part of the law. In fact if a Jewish male isn't circumcised he loses not only his God, but also his country.

You are confused. There is not laws of CIRCUMCISION in God's 10 commandments *EXODUS 20:1-17.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

In Christ , it is voluntary.

Circumcision of the heart is mandatory - without it no one enters Yahweh's Kingdom, same as in the ancient times.

 

[ace of hearts]

Well that is not true brother. The 10 commandments were all given in the OLD TESTAMENT. Everyone of them is repeated in the NEW TESTAMENT.

Scripture support here click me 1 and here click me 2.

HEBREWS 4:9 SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you and there is a lot of it in the linked posts above.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

Then you should easily be able to quote that requirement from the NT. All the places and references in the NT are historical occurrences except the few where there's a discussion about the sabbath between Jesus and Jews. Even the 40 days after the Cross there's not a single mention of Jesus doing anything on the sabbath. Can you imagine what would have happened if Jesus made an appearance in the Temple on the sabbath for instance?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

This is just one of many posts to me with the bold red in it. I didn't want to look all night for more of them. This one is a little more softer than some others.

What unrepentant sin are you talking about? The only thing it could possibly be because of our exchanges is the 4th commandment. Your intention with 1 John 3:4 is that sin is only breaking one of the famous 10. The problem is there is a four letter word you refuse to acknowledge "also." When this verse is quoted by your side, only the last half of the sentence is quoted. In this case that intentionally alters the meaning of the verse.

James 2:10-11 says if you don't keep every part of the law you're guilty of the whole law. IOW if you lie, you're also guilty of committing adultery (the rest of the law).

Hebrews 10:26-27 talks about willful sin (unrepentant sin) has no forgiveness. Now you knowingly are applying this to the 4th commandment. I ask if you were willing to discuss this by making the first argument for or against and could even present personal testimony. So far you refuse. Why? The sabbath is your whole argument by the volume of your posts. You claim to keep it. I 'm asking how and what do you do in keeping it. That would be on topic for this thread.

My posts are God's WORD are for us all including myself. God's Word is not my words but God's and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Who should we believe God or man? I know who I believe how *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Then you should easily be able to quote that requirement from the NT. All the places and references in the NT are historical occurrences except the few where there's a discussion about the sabbath between Jesus and Jews. Even the 40 days after the Cross there's not a single mention of Jesus doing anything on the sabbath. Can you imagine what would have happened if Jesus made an appearance in the Temple on the sabbath for instance?

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you. Scripture support here click me 1 and here click me 2.

 

[ace of hearts]

then it is a different agreement but it references the same law in both cases.

The agreement is not the same.

The LAW is the same. it is the one Jeremiah and his readers knew about "this IS the NEW Covenant.. I will write My LAW on their heart and mind" Jeremiah 31:31-33

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

is about contents. That means the contents are different.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Can you imagine what would have happened if Jesus made an appearance in the Temple on the sabbath for instance?

The Father did not have Jesus appear to anyone who was an unsaved Jew nor gentile after the resurrection for instance.

He might have met the disciples in the Temple on Sabbath, or any day, as the Father directed Him to. This is not a recorded instance in Scripture, for instance.

 

[ace of hearts]

LOL! So the same debate rages on. Why am I not surprised?! I do not understand why it is so hard to understand the difference between the laws of Moses and the Law of God---God made a clear distinction between the 2.
To begin with--understand the sanctuary--
I assume everyone knows that it is a replica of the one that is in heaven. The Ark itself is a copy of the very throne of God. There, He sits between the 2 covering cherubs. Lucifer used to be one. It contained the Mercy Seat. It contained one thing, commanded by God Himself, the 2 tables of stone written by God. A pot of gold containing manna, Aaron's rod that budded, were added later. In Exodus and in Revelation the ark is called the ark of the testimony.
Exo 25:16 And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee.
Rev_11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
Everything about the sanctuary services pointed to Jesus.
Exo_24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
Exo_31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

The law of Moses was written by Moses on parchment as dictated by God, the law of God was written by God Himself on Tables of Stone. They were kept in separate places, only the law of God was in the Ark. As it is in the Heavenly Ark, upon which God sits.

It is the law of God that is written in our hearts now. God does not write the law of Moses in our hearts, only His. Whether in our hearts or on stone--they are written--not done away with. Only the law of Moses is done away with -- for Jesus is now our Sacrificial Lamb and our High Priest.

You make this distinction, The Jews and most of Christendom don't. As has been pointed out the law of Moses was written on stone. If you read Joshua 8 I think you can clearly see it wasn't Moses that did the writing.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You make this distinction, The Jews and most of Christendom don't. As has been pointed out the law of Moses was written on stone. If you read Joshua 8 I think you can clearly see it wasn't Moses that did the writing.

Brother you may need to re-visit the scriptures. God's eternal law (10 commandments) that gives us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN AND RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172 are not the Shadow laws of MOSES written in the book of the Covenant *EXODUS 24:7. The MOSIAC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 was kept separate from God's eternal Law (10 commandments) written by God on the tables of stone in the ARK (house) of the COVENANT *DEUTERONOMY 31:26. DEUTERONOMY 10:2

 

[ace of hearts]

No problem.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

No mention of Israel there.

Nope not at all. It is God's WORD not mine that says in the NEW COVENANT God's ISRAEL are now all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD not me. You only provide your own Words I believe God so your argument is with God not me. A very detailed scripture response provided below in the linked posts which start with the ORIGIN of ISRAEL in the OLD COVENANT linking who God's ISRAEL are under the NEW COVENANT.

You've been interchanging words to imply the Church is Israel. I'm old enough to have been exposed to what is now called replacement theology. It used to be called British Israelism.

1. ORIGIN OF ISRAEL AND THE 12 TRIBES linked
2. MEANING OF THE NAME OF GOD'S ISRAEL linked
3. GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT IS GOD'S CHURCH linked
4. GENTILES ARE NOW GRAFTED IN WITH GOD'S ISRAEL linked

We've been over this before. Indeed you're correct Israel is also referred to as His (God's) people. This doesn't mean the Church is Israel. Yes the Church is also God's people. Hosea 2:23 explains this.

And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

No where in this verse are these people now called Israel.

Indeed. If you have no interest in God's WORD then how can you argue your position with your own words? These are God's WORD not mine so your argument is with God not me. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4

Excuse me. Where did I ever post I've no interest in God's Word? I think you're really saying I've no interest in EGW's teaching you promote. Now that would be correct. It doesn't mean I can't or won't quote her. So you slam me with Rom 3:4. Not cool dude. Maybe you could use a course or two in Dale Carnegie.

Sorry it is God's WORD not mine I cannot take any credit for it. The graft is into the ROOT (Christ) amonf the branches (ISRAEL) *ROMANS 11:13-27

This is a long cry from your previous statement(s) found in your links.

Not at all. Simply stating that only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that seek to break the commandments of God as spoken by JESUS *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

I told I would discuss this with you. No results so far.

If JESUS says; On these two commandments of LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN hang all the LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40 and we go out and lie, steal or murder our neighbore are we loving them and believing Jesus?

Please explain how one can do that and be inline with say Luke 6:31 or Jn 13:34. Or explain how that would make one a violator of your examples, or how that means one is following the law. Jesus didn't teach the law. Another great example is the "but I say..." statements of Mat 5.

If JESUS says; On these two commandments of LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN hang all the LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40 and we say no there is no longer any LAW to give us the KNOWLEDGE of sin *ROMANS 3:20 are we BELIEVING JESUS when JESUS says; On these two commandments of LOVE to GOD and LOVE to MAN hang all the LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40?

Pharaoh knew it was wrong to take another man's (Abraham's) wife to wife. How he didn't have the law. Why did Moses flee Egypt? He didn't have the law at that time. Deut 5:3.

I do believe all of God's WORD. It is true hoever, you have no argument as you are misapplying your application of the scriptures due to losing context as shown through God's WORD (only sent in love as a help brother).

Believe what you want. Joshua 8:32 for instance isn't my interpretation of things. It's the Bible.

GALATIANS 3:28-29 [28], THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS [29], and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

Nothing about Israel.

According the the scriptures a sheep is a sheep unless they are one in wolves clothing *MATTHEW 7:15; MATTHEW 10:16; JOHN 10:16. Notice in JOHN 10:16, JESUS says he must bring his sheep from other folds and there will be one Shepard and one fold?

Why do you resort to this kind of behavior? Isn't it because you realize you can't defend your position? Jesus isn't bring those other sheep to this fold (Israel).

God's sheep hear his Voice and follow him (the Word)

So why are you demanding and following the law?