Why is some Staff afraid of IIDB?

[Petunia]

I am starting to vaguely remember, when I first came to CF a couple of years ago, going to an atheist forum to find out what all of the hullabala was about being talked about in one thread on CF. I followed a link there. I think this may be the same forum we're discussing now. I went there once or twice.. never posted there, and couldn't begin to tell you what my username and/or password is there now. I'm sure by now.. it has been deleted because of inactivity.

I've had some pretty nasty stuff posted about me over there, yet it doesn't worry me at all.

And it shouldn't bother you. Shouldn't bother you what is posted there regarding those at lower levels of service here on CF.. either. Or what is said about the membership.

Nothing good will be accomplished in that atmosphere.

 

[Victory of the Cross]

Really? Everything I recall seeing about you has been positive, and calling you fair and polite.

Then they have my thanks and most likely they are being far too kind Most of the clips i had sent were "special"

Yet They don't worry me abit I've been flammed one minuet and offer aid to that person the next

Maybe i'm just made that way, cos i'm nothing special I just can't see anypoint getting a grudge not worth the toxins from getting bitter and angry.. lowers the immune system ya know

 

[sparklecat]

Nothing good will be accomplished in that atmosphere.

Pfft.

 

[A New Dawn]

AND what is the motivation for this belief that the thing is wrong? People have stated here that they are against iidb and have NEVER even been there. That to me is evidence of fear.

Actually, I think it is closer to anger. When I read what they said about me over there, before I even became staff, I felt anger, not fear.

 

[sparklecat]

Then they have my thanks and most likely they are being far too kind Most of the clips i had sent were "special"

Yet They don't worry me abit I've been flammed one minuet and offer aid to that person the next

Maybe i'm just made that way, cos i'm nothing special I just can't see anypoint getting a grudge not worth the toxins from getting bitter and angry.. lowers the immune system ya know

I think there's a point to what was said earlier in this thread; it's always the bad statements that get sent to people, and never the praise, which ends in a rather skewed view of the entire place. In the end, it's simply another message board. One where people sometimes fight, sometimes work out their differences, sometimes help one another. Probably not that different from CF when you're looking at the majority of the discussions that go on, and not just picking out isolated instances of abuse.




And no, you shouldn't be worried. It's the positive comments that are correct, after all!

 

[allieisme]

Ya know - I am one person who has stood against that there - but I'll let you in on a secret . . . . it's just a word. A word with no power in heaven or in hell. I may be in bad taste - but it is far less damaging a word than some of the ones people use regularly and without fear.

I agree...

 

[dignitized]

Actually, I think it is closer to anger. When I read what they said about me over there, before I even became staff, I felt anger, not fear.

sometimes singles posts are taken quite out of context and then sometimes it's just someone letting off steam because if you try anything like that here you get in trouble.

 

[dignitized]

I agree...

you might not want to do that. I am something akin to satan himself in the eyes of certain people here of late. Wouldn't want you to be made guilty by association . . . like those staff who post at iidb are made to be guilty by association . . . .

HI BTW - Nice to see you around

 

[A New Dawn]

sometimes singles posts are taken quite out of context and then sometimes it's just someone letting off steam because if you try anything like that here you get in trouble.

Max, I have lurked there a long time, and I know that what was said wasn't single, out of context posts.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

I wouldn't say I have ever seen any staffer come in and disrespect everyone in sight, but then I haven't been over in a while. But even if they did, why do you think they did it? (Hint -- People just don't do things in vacuums.)

I have seen one member of Exec do exactly that in a very hateful and spiteful fashion. She made me feel like I was scum for even daring to post there. She didn't refer to anyone in particular, but to the entire place. That shows a lack of love and compassion.

To answer your question, I think that people are able to post like that because they don't take the time or don't have the patience/grace to see both sides of an issue. And I can't discount anger management issues as being a possible part of the problem...but I don't want to speculate too much in that arena.

I want to make this clear and put in in big letters so no one misses it:

YEAH, IIDB MEMBERS CAN BE RUDE TOO! CF staff (just a very few now...) has no monopoly on bad manners.


A New Dawn, I'd like to ask you what you thought of the rest of my post. You only focused on the negative part of it.

I'd also like to say thanks for taking the time that you did to post over there to try to clear some things up. If that happened more often, I really feel like things would run a lot smoother.

 

[dignitized]

Max, I have lurked there a long time, and I know that what was said wasn't single, out of context posts.

Then perhaps it was someone who was hurt and angry letting off steam. Many times when we cannot deal directly with the target of our anger it helps to have someplace to lance that anger and let the puss out. I agree many times people there wallow in their anger and hurt feelings - but then they do the same things here in these forums and in certain sooper seekrit forums as well. THEN again - it could just be that people see an issue for a different point of view. What staff may see as entirely justifiable, could be seen quite differently by the membership.

 

[allieisme]

you might not want to do that. I am something akin to satan himself in the eyes of certain people here of late. Wouldn't want you to be made guilty by association . . . like those staff who post at iidb are made to be guilty by association . . . .

HI BTW - Nice to see you around

Nice to see you around too!
I'll save the rest of my opinion on your statement to myself

 

[A New Dawn]

I posted there for several months and had more positive experiences than negative.

There IS a lot of true fellowship and prayer happening there. It doesn't claim to be a ministry but I'd say it is one anyway.

Most members that post there, even the ones that only flyby to make nasty posts, aren't harassed as they can be here. Does that mean there is no flaming ever? Nope. But people do apologize there and they generally mean it when they do. I've seen lots of peace made over there.

BUT there is also a lot of childish fighting that takes place. Some is started by IIDB members venting about a CF staffer but more often it is a staffer coming in an basically disrespecting everyone in sight and making people feel bad for even posting there. People are people no matter where you go I guess.

Just respect one another no matter where you are. If you are a nice poster on one board and a nasty hateful one on another...chances are it isn't the board but yourself.

Having said all that, I finally left for two reasons. One it is a fast-paced thread and I really have trouble keeping up with it while I'm at work. Second, the fighting that takes place between what really is just a select few brings the reading from the drama meter just a bit high for my blood pressure.

Moral of the story, everybody just be nice and try respecting one another! You can do it. We ALL can.


If I ever made a nasty post towards anyone reading this over there, I extend my apologies now. It's never too late to say sorry!

I have seen one member of Exec do exactly that in a very hateful and spiteful fashion. She made me feel like I was scum for even daring to post there. She didn't refer to anyone in particular, but to the entire place. That shows a lack of love and compassion.

To answer your question, I think that people are able to post like that because they don't take the time or don't have the patience/grace to see both sides of an issue. And I can't discount anger management issues as being a possible part of the problem...but I don't want to speculate too much in that arena.

I want to make this clear and put in in big letters so no one misses it:

YEAH, IIDB MEMBERS CAN BE RUDE TOO! CF staff (just a very few now...) has no monopoly on bad manners.


A New Dawn, I'd like to ask you what you thought of the rest of my post. You only focused on the negative part of it.

I'd also like to say thanks for taking the time that you did to post over there to try to clear some things up. If that happened more often, I really feel like things would run a lot smoother.

As far as the rest of your post, I agree that respect goes a long way, and there is a bit of fellowshipping there amongst the "in" crowd.

 

[dignitized]

As far as the rest of your post, I agree that respect goes a long way, and there is a bit of fellowshipping there amongst the "in" crowd.

Dawn - I was never in the "in crowd" but I still found fellowship there and made friends there which I hope will last a lifetime.

 

[nyj]

Then perhaps it was someone who was hurt and angry letting off steam.

Were you just hurt and angry and letting off steam when you slandered me over at IIDB and then when asked to post proof, you said you would and then were never heard from there again?

 

[Addicted2~Jesus]

An yet... we as users would be nailed to the wall for discussin specifics er "flamin staff" for comments like this.... do you spose this is one of those comments that should... oh I donno... BE TAKIN TO PM?!?!

 

[dignitized]

Were you just hurt and angry and letting off steam when you slandered me over at IIDB and then when asked to post proof, you said you would and then were never heard from there again?

I'd be glad to share that info here - but to do so would be an against the rules. If you are foolish enough to think that you are the reason I will not post there anymore - I'm happy to inform you, that you are sadly mistaken.

 

[nyj]

I'd be glad to share that info here - but to do so would be an against the rules. If you are foolish enough to think that you are the reason I will not post there anymore - I'm happy to inform you, that you are sadly mistaken.

I don't think you left IIDB because you were running from giving an answer you said you would. No need to share it here, just curious why you didn't live up to your promise there.

 

[kamikat]

What, because there are no characters to play dress up with?

Come on, now, don't go blabbing the secret around. Cf is the only place in town that has characters, man. It's the REAL reason everyone stays

 

[WalksWithChrist]

As far as the rest of your post, I agree that respect goes a long way, and there is a bit of fellowshipping there amongst the "in" crowd.

It's a pretty diverse bunch of folks really. No matter where I go I feel like I'm on the outside, so I guess I will have to disagree with the "in" comment since I made friends there (some very unlikely friends I might add!) and got some very valuable help there in various forms.


Additionally, I see people that might be seen as part of an in crowd or inner circle or whatever you want to say bicker pretty intensely with one another. People are people.

Labeling a group is counter-productive I'd say. That's like saying CF mods are all bad, which they aren't.


If you've seen Max and Big Toe talk about making snowflakes, they I think you'd forget for all eternity about thinking that no good comes from IIDB. lol