I am interested in why CaDan thinks staff "fears" IIDB.
I, personally, don't "fear" IIDB, I do, however, dislike it intensely.
Members there have trashed me since before I even became staff. I do think that the worst things that have ever been said about me in my life were said there. The two times I have gone over and tried to clear up some problems as much as staff can while obeying the confidentiality clause they agree to, I have been flamed, called a liar, and other nice little ditties.
I am not afraid of it, it is just not a nice place to be.
Not trying to just pick on you but IIDB'ers can answer this.
It depends on what is deemed *ministry*.
Can you say that the gospel of Christ is shared regularly there? Are christians REALLY encouraged in the daily walk with Christ everyday? Is those subjects considered *off topic in ~Elsewhere?*
What is the main subject that's talked about there? I know a lot of bashing/lieing/gossip goes on there. I've been sent copies of things that were said about me, while I was on staff that were outright lies. I've been called names too like *tool*. Just glad that I considered myself a *tool* on the right side for God.
I know other members/staff who has been talked about and was flamed/lied about that caused hurt. Can you say that that doesn't happen on a regularly basis at ~Elsewhere?
Do members give links to put down other CF members/staff over there for other IIDB members to check out? Do they copy what staff has said, privately in staff forums or in PMs to use against staff members?
Can the members that post at IIDB say, they proudly talk about their sins there and use vulgar language that's not becoming of a christian or lifestyles that goes against scripture?
Can you say what goes on there glorifies & honors God regularly? Would what said other there cause hurt to members & staff if they read what was posted about them?
Have you had a chance to make my red beans & rice with sausage recipe yet?
I am staff and I see nothing even remotely credible for your speaking on my behalf. Presumption to do so only gives evidence to what you might cherish or don't cherish.
The list of what I fear is very short.
What would qualify for my fear... fear coupled with love and hope, and is therefore not a crippling dread, but rather filial reverence. A holy fear is preventive for carelessness in belief, and motivation to penitence. I fear (revere) the Lord, my God.
As you are well aware, since you moderate for that forum, that site is based on and promotes a Naturalistic or Atheist worldview. Its ideology is inherently in opposition to God, Jesus Christ, Christendom, etc. It isn't a matter of it posing a threat or even having respectable qualities; it is an issue of the principal membership having a recognizable focus and motivation. I make a point to know my surroundings and since this is the Internet, I take note of the site's existence and purpose.
Fear would not be the word I would choose to summarize that principal membership's mindset.
In fact, fear would be far from the available descriptors since at times I have visited that site to engage the membership in dialogue. I visit as a stranger in a foreign, hostile and at times vile environment. An environment that many more adjectives might fit, but it would not solicit fear in me.
I'm glad I could clear up your confusion about me as a staff member.
[/quote]Have a Merry Christmas.
And, as we all know, using the "f" word=not a real Christian.IIDB serves the purpose of giving a place for self-identified Christians to use the f-word in a public forum.
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I've never used that word there.
walkswithchrist, you're post is beautiful.I posted there for several months and had more positive experiences than negative.
There IS a lot of true fellowship and prayer happening there. It doesn't claim to be a ministry but I'd say it is one anyway.
Most members that post there, even the ones that only flyby to make nasty posts, aren't harassed as they can be here. Does that mean there is no flaming ever? Nope. But people do apologize there and they generally mean it when they do. I've seen lots of peace made over there.
BUT there is also a lot of childish fighting that takes place. Some is started by IIDB members venting about a CF staffer but more often it is a staffer coming in an basically disrespecting everyone in sight and making people feel bad for even posting there. People are people no matter where you go I guess.
Just respect one another no matter where you are. If you are a nice poster on one board and a nasty hateful one on another...chances are it isn't the board but yourself.
Having said all that, I finally left for two reasons. One it is a fast-paced thread and I really have trouble keeping up with it while I'm at work. Second, the fighting that takes place between what really is just a select few brings the reading from the drama meter just a bit high for my blood pressure.
Moral of the story, everybody just be nice and try respecting one another! You can do it. We ALL can.
If I ever made a nasty post towards anyone reading this over there, I extend my apologies now. It's never too late to say sorry!
1. The word "some" was deliberately chosen in the title to keep the statement from being a hasty generalization...
BUT there is also a lot of childish fighting that takes place. Some is started by IIDB members venting about a CF staffer but more often it is a staffer coming in an basically disrespecting everyone in sight and making people feel bad for even posting there. People are people no matter where you go I guess.
The two times I have gone over and tried to clear up some problems as much as staff can while obeying the confidentiality clause they agree to, I have been flamed, called a liar, and other nice little ditties.
I am not afraid of it, it is just not a nice place to be.
I wouldn't say I have ever seen any staffer come in and disrespect everyone in sight, but then I haven't been over in a while. But even if they did, why do you think they did it? (Hint -- People just don't do things in vacuums.)
Why exactly would you characterize it as fear?
One has to be a member in order to lurk on the IIDB/Elsewhere thread.
Perhaps, but I do know that the word "some" is sometimes used as a weasel word.
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