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We have to learn to accept both aspects of Jesus.
the lamb, and the lion.
But you neglect to understand that the first time Jesus came, it was to save the world. The second time Jesus comes, it is to judge the world.
Or that's something you need to unlearn. Jesus isn't a Jekyll and Hyde character with opposing natures. His mercy is just and His justice is merciful. He's never wrathful in the way you understand the word.
We become what we worship and thankfully that's not the Jesus I worship.
Well I'd advise you learn and accept who Jesus is from scripture, not from your own desires of what you want Him to be.
Ditto.
So you're perfectly comfortable and not at all sad, that all sea animals just go extinct, even though they did not sin?
that all things are made new.. except 70% of this planet?[/Q]
every tub sets on its own bottom
A religion of fear.Well you're going to have to reconcile that with all the scripture that teaches the wrath of God.
The chemical reaction of fear can be addictive to some, perhaps "God" is more of a drug in this instance.A religion of fear.
I'm sure everyone will want to join.
Who could trust a God like that?
That may have helped to accelerate this religion of fear we inherited from the church. (the human institution) The purpose being to control the populous.The chemical reaction of fear can be addictive to some, perhaps "God" is more of a drug in this instance.
Sounds like you are worshipping the wrong Jesus.We become what we worship and thankfully that's not the Jesus I worship.
That's funny because you want to ignore every time Jesus talked about eternal punishment, and displayed anger, or talked about wrath.
Jesus talked about CUTTING PEOPLE TO PIECES when He returned.
It is not gentle fuzzy bunnies Saturday Morning Cartoons Jesus.
The same Jesus that loves you and died for you to forgive your sin... is going to come back one day and it will be a slaughter. Angels even announce to all the carrion feeding birds to come to the battle to feast on the flesh of all the men that Jesus kills.
The first time Jesus came He was meek, but hinted that in the future the next time He came it would be in judgement.
A religion of fear.
I'm sure everyone will want to join.
Who could trust a God like that?
The chemical reaction of fear can be addictive to some, perhaps "God" is more of a drug in this instance.
The at times difficult truth contained in the Bible.
The bible contains hard truths that are difficult for me to even read and meditate on.
It was to emphasize just how severe Jesus could be in judgement. The first time He came was not to judge the world but He warned the second time would be.Look at my post history! I must have posted hundreds of times about "eternal punishment" so hardly ignoring it. Granted, mainly to point out that it's a mistranslation of what Jesus actually said, which is "aionios kolasis" (correction lasting for an age) in scripture.
But did He SHOUT about it though?
I'd stay in on that day then if I was you.
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
One of the most difficult biblical truths to hear is that we should love one another as oursleves. That "as ourselves" is very hard for many people to do. But try it and stop thinking about Jesus CUTTING PEOPLE/YOU UP when He returns. He won't.
harder for me than most to be honest, because I don't love myself.
Still spreading the false narrative that "aionios kolasis" means "correction lasting for an age." In Greek it is only 2 words to make it fit your false narrative you have to change "aionios kolasis" to 4 words and none of them is an adjective. What's the matter you can't find an English adjective and noun to translate it to?Look at my post history! I must have posted hundreds of times about "eternal punishment", mainly to point out that it's a mistranslation of what Jesus actually said, which is "aionios kolasis" (correction lasting for an age) in scripture.* * *
Still spreading the false narrative that "aionios kolasis" means "correction lasting for an age." In Greek it is only 2 words to make it fit your false narrative you have to change "aionios kolasis" to 4 words and none of them is an adjective. What's the matter you can't find an English adjective and noun to translate it to?
Once again my argument from the Eastern Greek Orthodox translation.
EOB Matthew 25:46 When he will answer them, saying: ‘Amen, I tell you: as much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These [ones on the left] will go away into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] punishment, [κόλασις/kolasis] but the righteous into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life.”Greek has been the language of the Eastern Greek Orthodox church since its inception, 2000 years +/- ago. Who better than the team of native Greek speaking scholars, who translated the Eastern Greek Orthodox Bible [EOB] know the correct meaning of the Greek words in the N.T.?
Link to EOB online;
Link to: The New Testament ( The Eastern-Greek Orthodox Bible) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
…..The Greek word “kolasis” occurs only twice in the N.T., first occurrence Matt 25:46 and the second occurrence is 1 John 4:18.
EOB 1 John 4:18 here is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear is connected with punishment.[ κόλασις/kolasis] But the one who fears is not yet perfect in love.Note the native Greek speaking Eastern Orthodox Greek scholars translators of the EOB translated “aionios” as “eternal,” NOT age.
The Greek word “kolasis”is translated “punishment” in Matt 25:46 and 1 John 4:18. Some folks claim “kolasis” really means “prune” or “correction” but according to the EOB Greek scholars it means “punishment.” Note: 1 John 4:18 there is no correction, the one with “kolasis” is not made perfect.
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