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Why is Schiff Witholding Documents?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Bobber, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Bobber

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  2. Aryeh Jay

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    I guess one way to find out would be for the Republicans to vote to see evidence. I wonder why they won’t do that.
     
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  3. JohnAshton

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    When the GOP releases all the documents the House managers want, then the ICIG docs can be released.
     
  4. Fantine

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    We have seen President Trump's vindictiveness on full display in the past 3 years. Republicans want the inspector General's report so that they can discover the identity of the Whistleblower. Whistleblowers are a protected category but it will be very difficult to protect the Whistleblower after Trump what's an all-out media assault on him or her. He will probably need 24-hour protection for years. Look what happened to the professor who spoke out about her sexual assault by Justice Kavanaugh. She had to move out of her home and take a leave from her job because of the threats that she was subjected to.
     
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  5. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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    Your video doesn't work.

    And the connections between the whistleblower and Schiff are irrelevant. The whistleblower could be Schiff's twin brother and it still wouldn't matter. This is just a weak, simple-minded red herring.
     
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  6. Kentonio

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    Would Republicans like to explain why a legally protected whistleblower should have his or her identity revealed, other than sheer spite and vindictiveness?
     
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  7. JohnAshton

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    . . . because they are losing?
     
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  8. Hank77

    Hank77 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If it's to protect Schiff...

    Members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence who conducted the interview are barred from disclosing details. But Republicans on the committee said the testimony should be heard at the president’s impeachment trial in the Senate.

    Republican members of the House Permanent Select Committee heard Atkinson's testimony and questioned him. Republicans know what he said but they want it heard at the impeachment trial.

    House Democrats conceal testimony of 18th witness from Trump team
     
  9. Bobber

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    You forget the obvious though. We already know why Schiff won't release them and NEVER WILL and why he NEVER made them out on the public record. Rep Ratcliffe declared why.

    It's because he asked the IG about his investigation into the contacts between Schiff's staff and the whistle blower and Schiff doesn't want those answers made public. Why? It would totally destroy any reasonable, fair and just way of conducting process and show the public how underhanded they were in bringing this forth.

    Sorry everyone but rightful process DOES MATTER! And if should matter a lot.

    So again I ask. Shouldn't Schiff and the House managers be up front with the American people? And maybe it should be considered if their wrong doing is just as bad or worse than the abuse they claim the President is guilty of than what's the point? Haven't they therefore disqualified themselves from having a say in the matter?
     
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  10. Bobber

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    Yes and those in the Senate have a right to know the genesis of how all this came forth. Isn't it true that a case which is built by an unjust means is generally thrown out of courts? In know legal process must be adhered to PROPERLY if not is stands that a case shouldn't have a right to be heard.
     
  11. JohnAshton

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    We know that the GOP is simply pointing at the Dems when they have three fingers pointing back.

    All the documents will come out.
     
  12. Arcangl86

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    It's no different then the use of anonymous tips or a CI to get an heads up on a potential crime that should be investigated.
     
  13. KCfromNC

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    Because Donald has made threats against the whistleblower, so any responsible party would want to do the right thing and keep that guy's (or girl's) identity away from the person threatening them.
     
  14. JohnAshton

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    The case against Trump was built iaw the law.
     
  15. TLK Valentine

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    Considering their Great Leader, do they need any other reason?
     
  16. BobRyan

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    Indeed why do we keep seeing references to the "whistle blower testimony" by house managers - (and that's true even on these threads )- when in fact it is Schiff that is threatened by that testimony and it is Schiff that is keeping them hidden.
     
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  17. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    It's not Schiff's job to bend over backwards to obfuscate the truth or expose Donald's accusers to threats and intimidation...

    ...it's McConnell's.
     
  18. FireDragon76

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    I have lived my entire 43 years witnessing a seemingly neverending string of dirty tricks, injustice, and dishonesty, and it does get wearisome after a while.

    America deserves better than this.
     
  19. JohnAshton

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    America deserves what it is getting because a significant number of its citizens are not moral enough to follow constitutional, legal, and ethical standards.
     
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  20. KCfromNC

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    Where are you seeing that?
     
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