Why is pornography wrong?

[Bible Highlighter]

Be very careful about insinuating that someone is not a Christian if they claim to be. It's against da rulz.

Neither do crosses.

At any rate, much of the temptation comes from applying the "forbidden fruit factor" to them. Reverse psychology at its finest, and with the unintended consequence of making things worse, like attempting to douse a fire with gasoline. Yay Religion!!

Not everyone here is Christian.
So it is not against the rules for me to find out if they truly are one.
They can say they are non-denominational in their profile, but they could have hit the wrong button or not truly understand what that word means. My asking the questions truly helps to clarify where we stand.
They sent me a Muslim link. So I have to ask now.


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[Bible Highlighter]

Don't respond to that Sam. He is technically violating the rules. He is losing the debate and resorts to personal attacks when that happens. He has done it many times on other threads as well. Best thing you can do is report.

No. I am not losing any debate. Sam gave me a Muslim link which made me wonder if they were truly Christian. So I asked if they accepted Jesus and if they believe Jesus is God.

There is nothing wrong in asking these questions.
Look. I will answer these questions.

Yes, I accepted Jesus as my Savior.
Yes, I believe Jesus is God.

It is not a big deal.
Admitting to something so true and so simple.

These should not be things that you should shy away from if you are Christian.
If this was a Christian's only website, then that would be different.
But there are people here who are not Christian. Some here are atheists and some are from other religions.
If they say they are "non-denom", that is not enough for me to know where they stand.
They could have hit the wrong button not knowing what that word is.
So I am seeking to know the truth.



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[Rajni]

No. I am not losing any debate. Sam gave me a Muslim link which made me wonder if they were truly Christian. So I asked if they accepted Jesus and if they believe Jesus is God.

There is nothing wrong in asking these questions.
Look. I will answer these questions.

Yes, I accepted Jesus as my Savior.
Yes, I believe Jesus is God.

These should not be things that you should shy away from if you are Christian.
If this was a Christian's only website, then that would be different.
But there are people here who are not Christian. Some are atheists and some are from other religions.
If they say they are "non-denom", that is not enough for me to know where they stand.
They could have hit the wrong button not knowing what that word is.
So I am seeking to know the truth.



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It is a rule here on CF that you are not to insinuate that another is not a Christian if they claim to be. Have you read the rules, Jason?

 

[mercyfollowsme]

I'm not convinced that lust is limited to desiring a married woman.

OT adultery was limited to sex with another man's wife. I think the key concept is about breaking covenant, so desiring an unmarried woman, and marrying her is not wrong.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes.

Thank you.
I believe you.
I was just curious as to why you sent me a link on Islam.


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[Sammy-San]

Thank you.
I believe you.
I was just curious as to why you sent me a link on Islam.


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Why did he use the word pornography in that article?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

It is a rule here on CF that you are not to insinuate that another is not a Christian if they claim to be. Have you read the rules, Jason?

I was not stating he was not Christian. I was merely simply trying to find the truth of how he defines it what it means to be a Christian. Not all Christians are the same. Some are Univeralists. So they feel that accepting Jesus as your Savior is not necessary. Some Christians believe Jesus is not God. So my questions were to help define what he thinks a true Christian is.


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[Robienfold Papenfuse]

No. I am not losing any debate. Sam gave me a Muslim link which made me wonder if they were truly Christian. So I asked if they accepted Jesus and if they believe Jesus is God.

There is nothing wrong in asking these questions.
Look. I will answer these questions.

Yes, I accepted Jesus as my Savior.
Yes, I believe Jesus is God.

It is not a big deal.
Admitting to something so true and so simple.

These should not be things that you should shy away from if you are Christian.
If this was a Christian's only website, then that would be different.
But there are people here who are not Christian. Some here are atheists and some are from other religions.
If they say they are "non-denom", that is not enough for me to know where they stand.
They could have hit the wrong button not knowing what that word is.
So I am seeking to know the truth.



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You have no authority to question his religion nor does he have any obligation to give you a response no matter how many times you try to rationalize it to yourself and demand that he responds since you have zero authority. Mind your manners, may God have mercy you friend.

 

[SnowyMacie]

The Scriptures depict a lot of sexually explicit scenes, stories, descriptions (Song of Solomon etc.), both in the narrative and prophetic books of the Bible. AS far as stories of violence goes; there is more there than almost any TV show or movie you could see. Someone once said that if the Bible were ever filmed literally, it would be XXX rated. Feelings follow thoughts. What thoughts come into your mind when picturing Bathsheba bathing on the roof? How about the person Solomon describes when talking about her breasts and other body parts? What images come to mind when reading about the brothers who spilled their seed on the ground rather than have sex with their dead brother's wife? It's impossible not to have an image of something when it's described to you. "Lusting after" someone involves more than merely finding someone sexually attractive; it involves intent. It basically means that the only thing stopping you from actually committing adultery with someone is the circumstances. Same goes for murder. If the only thing stopping you from killing someone is the fear of going to jail, then you've already murdered them in your heart. If the only thing stopping you from committing adultery is the fear of getting caught, ruining your family, or the fact that the other person would reject you, then you've already committed adultery in your heart. Fantasizing about someone in a porno movie isn't the same thing. There is no expectation to actually have sex with that person unless you are delusional. The real harm in pornography is that is desensitizes a person to the real thing. It takes the special and makes it mundane, It makes someone have to get more and more kinky in order to get aroused and makes real sex boring because a real person can't live up to the fantasy. This can cause a dissatisfaction in relationships. THe same was found true of women who read romance novels or watched a lot of soap operas. They were far more dissatisfied with their husbands than those that didn't because the real guy wasn't ever going to be Fabio, or whoever. That's the problem with porn, IMO.

This is one of best posts I've seen about lust, pornography, and relationships.

 

[Robienfold Papenfuse]

It is a rule here on CF that you are not to insinuate that another is not a Christian if they claim to be. Have you read the rules, Jason?

I hate to advocate this but I think a wider scale reporting effort would be in order since Jason seems to be unrepentant here. I will start.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Why did he use the word pornography in that article?

My mistake. I thought it was a Muslim website, but it is a Christian apolgetics website to witness to Muslims. Hence, why I asked you the questions I did. They really should redo their website or choose a better name so as not to cause any confusion.

As for the point of pornography in the article: Not sure what you are getting at.
I do not feel like reading articles by others right now. Please explain to me what you think it is talking about.


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[Bible Highlighter]

I hate to advocate this but I think a wider scale reporting effort would be in order since Jason seems to be unrepentant here. I will start.

Look, not all Christians are the same. There are Christians who do not believe you have to accept Jesus because they are Universalists. Then there are Christians who do not believe Jesus is God. So I was not saying Sam was not Christian. I was asking what kind of Christian they were. There is a difference.


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[Bible Highlighter]

This is one of best posts I've seen about lust, pornography, and relationships.

I couldn't disagree all the more. The Bible is in no way like a porn video.
One leads to spiritual life, the other leads to sexual depravity and sin.


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[Sammy-San]

I couldn't disagree all the more. The Bible is in no way like a porn video.
One leads to spiritual life, the other leads to sexual depravity and sin.


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Is depravity and evil the same?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You have no authority to question his religion nor does he have any obligation to give you a response no matter how many times you try to rationalize it to yourself and demand that he responds since you have zero authority. Mind your manners, may God have mercy you friend.

God's Word is my authority. We are told to correct others by God's Word and we are told to bear with those who preach another Jesus. Granted, Sam just admitted to me that they accepted Jesus and that Jesus is God. But like I said before, not all Christians believing in accepting Jesus and not all Christians believe that Jesus is God. Hence, why I asked the questions I did. So no. I do not believe I violated any rules (unless someone has it in for me because they do not like the message of God's Word or something).


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[Robienfold Papenfuse]

God's Word is my authority. We are told to correct others by God's Word and we are told to bear with those who preach another Jesus. Granted, Sam just admitted to me that they accepted Jesus and that Jesus is God. But like I said before, not all Christians believing in accepting Jesus and not all Christians believe that Jesus is God. Hence, why I asked the questions I did.


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And Gods word never states to questions someone's religion. That's something you have made up.

 

[SnowyMacie]

I couldn't disagree all the more. The Bible is in no way like a porn video.
One leads to spiritual life, the other leads to sexual depravity and sin.


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Have you read Song of Solomon? There's a reason why children were not allowed to read that.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

And Gods word never states to questions someone's religion. That's something you have made up.

Universalists consider themselves Christian.
Arians (Those who deny that Jesus is God) also consider themselves as Christian.
My question was to ask what kind of Christian Sam was.
You can Google these words if it makes you feel better.
Also, Jeezaws says they are Christian, but yet, their one post said, "God isn't real."
So you cannot always go off what a person says in their profile.


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[Rajni]

So I was not saying Sam was not Christian. I was asking what kind of Christian they were. There is a difference.

Next time, ask precisely that: "What kind of Christian are you?" What you originally asked implied he might not have been a Christian at all. "Do you accept Jesus as your Savior?" is basically asking if they're Christian at all, not merely what kind they are.

And here we have a person claiming to be Christian in their profile and yet they are saying God is not real. So would it be wrong for me to ask them if they accepted Jesus and if they believe that Jesus is God?

The rules are the rules. I'm sure Christians are just as capable of typing "God isn't real" on a forum, and for any number of reasons.

 

[Sammy-San]

Just wondering how that works. Does the devil send them to children?

Can an Imaginary Friend be a Demon - Faith Filled Family

I know people who had supernatural experiences seeing spirits as children. Nothing innocent about it.