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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Why is pornography wrong?
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In Matthew 5:28-30, the point was not that adultery was the ONLY sin that you can commit in your heart.
We see elsewhere in Scripture that if you simply hate your brother, you are considered a murderer (1 John 3:15). Jesus says, "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart brings forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things." (Matthew 12:35). So evil or sin starts in the heart and it is not limited to just the physical act. So yes, you can fornicate (have sex outside of marriage) in your heart by lusting in your eyes at women you are not married to. 1 Corinthians 7:2 says, "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."
Job 31:1 NHEB says,
""I made a covenant with my eyes, how then should I look lustfully at a young woman?"
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Do not even know about that other word.
Sacred as in holy, separate, special, set apart.
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Just because something is displayed doesn't necessarily reduce it's sacredness. Churches display worship for all the world to see, yet no one would say that church worship isn't sacred.
On a forum? Not likely!
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Not looking to justify violence. I am a Biblical Pacifist.
I see your position as justifying sexual immorality (Which is not only condemned in the Bible but it is condemned by our conscience). If porn was truly good, then should we then expose them to it at the earliest age possible? Yet, can parents watch a scene of the crucifixion of Christ with their child nearby? I do not see the problem in that. So you are trying to make porn like it is like violence on TV and it is not the same thing. Sex is something private between a man and woman behind closed doors just for themselves. That is God's ideal model for sex. Violence is only a temporary thing in this world. God will one day have no need for violence anymore after the Judgment. There will be no more death, disease, sickness, etc. on God's new earth.
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But God does not allow for sexual immorality within His Word.
Those who have not become desensitized by such a sin knows that it is wrong by their conscience on top of that. For even many unbelievers know it is wrong to expose children to porn at a young age.
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My point is that God will have the last word on the Judgment.
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The Scriptures depict a lot of sexually explicit scenes, stories, descriptions (Song of Solomon etc.), both in the narrative and prophetic books of the Bible. AS far as stories of violence goes; there is more there than almost any TV show or movie you could see. Someone once said that if the Bible were ever filmed literally, it would be XXX rated. Feelings follow thoughts. What thoughts come into your mind when picturing Bathsheba bathing on the roof? How about the person Solomon describes when talking about her breasts and other body parts? What images come to mind when reading about the brothers who spilled their seed on the ground rather than have sex with their dead brother's wife? It's impossible not to have an image of something when it's described to you. "Lusting after" someone involves more than merely finding someone sexually attractive; it involves intent. It basically means that the only thing stopping you from actually committing adultery with someone is the circumstances. Same goes for murder. If the only thing stopping you from killing someone is the fear of going to jail, then you've already murdered them in your heart. If the only thing stopping you from committing adultery is the fear of getting caught, ruining your family, or the fact that the other person would reject you, then you've already committed adultery in your heart. Fantasizing about someone in a porno movie isn't the same thing. There is no expectation to actually have sex with that person unless you are delusional. The real harm in pornography is that is desensitizes a person to the real thing. It takes the special and makes it mundane, It makes someone have to get more and more kinky in order to get aroused and makes real sex boring because a real person can't live up to the fantasy. This can cause a dissatisfaction in relationships. THe same was found true of women who read romance novels or watched a lot of soap operas. They were far more dissatisfied with their husbands than those that didn't because the real guy wasn't ever going to be Fabio, or whoever. That's the problem with porn, IMO.
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Jesus overcame in the wilderness (hallelujah), 3 things, they were the lusts of the flesh (living a faithless life) the lust of the eyes ( tempting God) and the pride of life (worshipping self/Satan ) .
Three areas that our Lord conquered. He emptied Himself of all desire and laid His life down so that He would be filled with Holy Spirit for His ministry and for our souls.
Romans 8:37 says "In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us."
As believers in Christ we are followers of Christ. Then if we are followers then we are to (2 Tim 2:22) " Flee all evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart."
(23) "but foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing they do gender strifes".
No wonder Jesus said in Matt.5:8. "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God".
Lord help us.
Three areas that our Lord conquered. He emptied Himself of all desire and laid His life down so that He would be filled with Holy Spirit for His ministry and for our souls.
Romans 8:37 says "In all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us."
As believers in Christ we are followers of Christ. Then if we are followers then we are to (2 Tim 2:22) " Flee all evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart."
(23) "but foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing they do gender strifes".
No wonder Jesus said in Matt.5:8. "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God".
Lord help us.
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There is nothing wrong with it. Two people engaging in the most natural act possible. All you need is your God given body. God gave us our bodies for a reason and as the Bible states "we are made in his image". Therefore using our bodies made in his image is completely natural and sin free. There are no Biblical restrictions on filming and viewing these natural acts of love.
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Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul.” ~ 1 Peter 2:11.
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But God's Word says,
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8).
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Well sir I am very well versed in the English laguauge and after viewing your comment and re reading mine I have come to the conclusion that my comment does indeed make sense. The words
being used form coherent sentences and there are no fragments. All sentences contain verbs and nouns. Are you an exchange student from an alien land brother?
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Yes revalations is very symbolic. Intercourse itself does not qualify for whoremongering otherwise many of us would be in trouble!
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He doesn't allow for the public display of worship, either, and there seems to be more agreement on what that is than on what constitutes sexual immorality. Yet churches abound.
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