But you said that Jesus' words explained it in full. Now you are saying that the entire Old Testament explains it? So then why would Jesus not quote the Old Testament verses. He quoted the Old Testament all the time, but did not do that in the case of all the 10 commandments..Those two are the headings of everything in the Torah and prophets.
How do you love G-d? the Torah explains how'
How do you love your neighbor? The Torah explains how.
Those are the commandments, all which fall into one of the two headings or categories that Yeshua said were the 'greatest'.
Good grief, He is talking to Jews who know it like a song... you don't have to sing the whole song for people to know what song you are singing.But you said that Jesus' words explained it in full. Now you are saying that the entire Old Testament explains it? So then why would Jesus not quote the Old Testament verses. He quoted the Old Testament all the time, but did not do that in the case of all the 10 commandments..
Good grief, He is talking to Jews who know it like a song... you don't have to sing the whole song for people to know what song you are singing.
This is so spot on.... people need to STOP reading scripture and interjecting a gentile spin on it... people NEED to start reading with an understanding WHO the audience was when Yeshua was speaking. Its crazy how people will twist and distort to support a view that simply is not there.
Actually, I believe they are being recorded 'internally' within our hearts.I'm sorry that you feel that way. I do not think it was a bad question at all and I think that you are reading into it by taking for granted that it was already known and that is why Jesus would not have clarified it.
Jesus knew all of His words were going to be written down and I believe He chose them perfectly, not just at that moment, but that they would be recorded eternally.
Well it had a different purpose. The torah never mentions eternal life. The New Covenant is here to save us from eternal death. I keep the Old Covenant simply because God gave it to me and I love God.Exactly. Which is my point of why the Son of God came.
However, they have said the Old Covenant is superior so I'm giving them a chance to speak on why they feel it is.
I believe the keepers of the commandments and having faith in Yeshua is the path to sainthood. Here are the saints.. Here are they that keep the commandments and have the faith of Yeshua.
Well it had a different purpose. The torah never mentions eternal life. The New Covenant is here to save us from eternal death. I keep the Old Covenant simply because God gave it to me and I love God.
Actually they DID have the Holy Spirit:We have God's Holy Spirit residing in each of our hearts. That couldn't have happened before Jesus death and resurrection
It could have been the experience of the entire crowd at Mount Sinai.. but alas only 70 got that privilege...The entire premise of the Old Testament was that God was not with us the way He is in the New Covenant. We have God's Holy Spirit residing in each of our hearts. That couldn't have happened before Jesus death and resurrection, but somehow He did all of this to point us back to what we had before? Dying to forgive our sins and then pointing us back to the Law that no one could keep? Jesus said that He brings a NEW and BETTER covenant for ALL PEOPLE. Believe in Jesus but not what He died to give us.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
It could have been the experience of the entire crowd at Mount Sinai.. but alas only 70 got that privilege...
God definitely expected the people of Yisrael to house the Words he spoke in their hearts.You think that the people on Mount Sinai had God in their hearts? All the people on Mount Sinai had the tablets. I don't get how you are responding to what I said about what we have received in the New Covenant?
God definitely expected the people of Yisrael to house the Words he spoke in their hearts.
Deut 30
11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach.
12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, "Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?"
13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, "Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?"
14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.
15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction.
16 For I command you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.
Where do you get that the children of Yisrael where never able to be led and moved by the Spirit? We were created to stumble, AND to be redeemed. We are the example for you gentiles who will have the same mercy and grace poured out upon you. You who even though were not called to be God's people are given a chance to become one, even though your sins are as scarlet you will be called 'my people' IF you repent of your sins, just like us. In this way we are no different. We are all saved by faith through grace. Before and After the coming of Messiah, it all hinged on faith. If not, why did God state in the OT that 'the righteous will live by faith'? Or do you believe there were none righteous before the coming of Messiah?
Then I guess you're going to have to ask yourself why God commanded the children of Yisrael to have God's Torah to be 'on' and 'in' our hearts.Writing His Word on our hearts is one of the premises of the New Covenant.
There is a big difference of having His Words on your heart and having God Himself write His Word on our hearts. I think that you are making way too lightly of this part of the New Covenant.Then I guess you're going to have to ask yourself why God commanded the children of Yisrael to have God's Torah to be 'on' and 'in' our hearts.
Deuteronomy 6:6 CJB
6 These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart;
Deuteronomy 11:18 CJB
18 Therefore, you are to store up these words of mine in your heart and in all your being; tie them on your hand as a sign; put them at the front of a headband around your forehead;
If you notice, the new covenant did not change the Torah, it changed the way the Torah was written. Before Messiah he commanded it be placed in and on our hearts. He commanded us to write it ourselves. The new covenant is made with the same people, and the same laws, but this time he says that 'He' will write them on our hearts. And He will put then in our hearts. This is done by grace through faith. By Messiah. This transformed the Torah through fulfillment. Before he commanded it be placed in and on our hearts, now he commands that we allow Him to write it there. Because as we know, the law is spiritual.
I am not arguing that the Torah is not the Word of God. What I am saying is that there was always to be a New Covenant when the messiah came. The Old Covenant was in effect for a long time that is Biblical history, no one is agruing that.Then I guess you're going to have to ask yourself why God commanded the children of Yisrael to have God's Torah to be 'on' and 'in' our hearts.
Deuteronomy 6:6 CJBIf you notice, the new covenant did not change the Torah, it changed the way the Torah was written. Before Messiah he commanded it be placed in and on our hearts. He commanded us to write it ourselves. The new covenant is made with the same people, and the same laws, but this time he says that 'He' will write them on our hearts. And He will put then in our hearts. This is done by grace through faith. By Messiah. This transformed the Torah through fulfillment. Before he commanded it be placed in and on our hearts, now he commands that we allow Him to write it there. Because as we know, the law is spiritual.
6 These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart;
Deuteronomy 11:18 CJB
18 Therefore, you are to store up these words of mine in your heart and in all your being; tie them on your hand as a sign; put them at the front of a headband around your forehead;
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